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Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by da buck, Sep 22, 2009.

  1. da buck

    da buck Regular Member

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    Has anyone seen any exceptional deals on desktops? Mine died yesterday when the power went out during a storm. I'm not looking for a top of the line model, but something decent in the $500 range. I'm contemplating building one, since the last one I built lasted about 7 years. Obviously anything will be an upgrade on my athlon 2400xp. :)
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  2. YoungGuns

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    Go to dell outlet if you like dells and don't wanna build your own. You can get a quad core for that price in a desktop. There's usually some coupons floating around for it and they have free shipping.
     
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    Have a look round ebay, CL and gumtree you can build yourself an awsome box
    to your own spec for pence on the pound.
     
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    i agree with youngguns dell outlet is awesome and very cheap and you get very good products :D
     
  5. gaz256

    gaz256 Registered Member

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    build your own without a doubt, far better value itll be twice as cheap. go on tomshardware and ask/read around if your unsure about things.

    i build my own computers and recently finished a build for under £600 and its better than computers out there well in excess of £1000. look out for offers and if you live in the US then you really have no excuse with newegg. im from england and prices are ridiculously more expensive then in US.

    dell is ok but if you can/know how to build a computer then theres really no reason not to. in my eyes i wouldnt even dream of buying a prebuilt computer because i know no matter what that i can build the exact same machine myself and save at least £100. my last build saved me in excess of 300 at least and depending on where you shop it saved me over 600 but i did take advantage of offers (including a launch day promo - got a £190 mobo for £85)

    good luck in finding a good comp whichever route you choose
     
  6. Enduro

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    Why not getting a laptop instead? I have had 2 desktops in the past and I dumped them completely and now I am on my second laptop and I am loving it!
     
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    One thing I did back in my college days was dumpster diving. You'll find the best computer parts in a computer stores dumpster. I built several computers over time using this method. Got a lot of junk out of it too. But it was fun and a good learning process along the way, not to mention free.
     
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    Dell outlet is good but I'd have to agree with Oxon and take a look at CL as well. People are strapped and looking to make a little cash getting rid of stuff.

    One more place to check, if you're near your capital in your state, you can google "ohio state surplus" and check there too. Basically they swap out the pc's from state gov't offices and state universities every X years and you can get them pretty cheap. Hell, you could probably get a pallet of pc's for $500 at state surplus. :)
     
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    Yeah they have the same deals for property seizures and drug busts on the federal level too.
     
  11. gaz256

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    laptops are perfectly fine and are extremely convenient. most people who can afford generally have both. laptop for convenience and desktop for when they need it. ive had a number of both and have switched between the two in the past but i have to say i just cant stand the performance of laptops for what i do. obviously everybody is different and everyone uses their computer for different reasons. personally i am heavily into computers and i benchmark and play around with overclocking. i use alot of hardware dependent apps and like to know that my pc can handle most things i throw at it. so personally i would go for a desktop because the price/performance is light years ahead of laptops (obviously, but worth pointing out). but it completely depends on what your using your comp for - browsing for example you could buy a $10 comp off a hobo and itd be fine, i have a 13 yr old comp for example and it works perfectly fine for browsing.

    i recently bought an £800 laptop and also built a £600 desktop. now the performance difference between these 2 is just massive, as expected. as for real world performance i mean you wont see a huge difference but when benchmarking the desktop just slaughters the laptop, im talking several times faster/better at least. especially in more demanding tasks. my desktop handles with ease what my laptop cant even do, but thats the differnce between desktop and laptop.

    so all in all it completely depends on what your gonna use it for, personally i couldnt do what i wanna do on any laptop (regardless of price). whereas if i just wanted to surf id go out and buy the cheapest laptop i could find as its more convenient and any comp can do it.

    and ill just add that if you want to play games (modern ones) then dont even think of getting a laptop. i use crysis for benchmarking only (like 99% of people who bought it) and my £800 laptop struggles to get 10fps on lowest settings, whereas my desktop gets a steady 30fps fully maxed out (without overclocking). customize the settings a little bit and 60fps in crysis is doable on my comp with minimum sacrifice.

    now thats a good offer i suppose and it may be fine for what you wanna do but lets face it the base unit is just awful. if your on a tight budget and dont need the extra power then its an excellent offer though. i would end up throwing that comp out of the window within the first 30minutes though because im so impatient lol.
     
  12. da buck

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    I definitely want a desktop. I already have a laptop that I use as well, but I need something that I can use to run software overnight/when I'm not at home. I've been checking cl, but most of what is on there is junk. I priced out a few parts on newegg which are a pretty decent deal. I can also get windows 7 for $30 because my wife is in school. (Gives me a legit OS for once) :) I'm still checking a few other places though. Thanks for everyones suggestions.
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  13. syngenetic

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    Don't get anything from dell....shit burns and makes an airplane sound in two hours.
     
  14. hun73r

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    ^^^ this.

    so true.
    My girlfriend laughs and imitates the retarded plane taking off sound when my dell starts up (she has a mac, of course).
     
  15. phpfiend

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    @ hun73r HAHA!! Now thats funny. Just having fun... All good.

    If anyone wants it I may have something of use. Anyone pm if interested in learning more.
     
  16. Enduro

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    Get a Lenovo desktop. Solid as rock.
     
  17. gaz256

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    ill say it again dont bother build your own
     
  18. Enduro

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    Sorry but there are 2 types of desktops. Desktops to play the latest PC games and desktops for multimedia.

    Now I have built my last desktop with various parts. After some time (around 2 years) it crapped out.

    Lenovo ThinkCenre are desktops used in governments' offices. I have seen one in my mother's workplace that is maybe 10 years old and runs more quitely than my desktop at home.

    Yes I am a fan of Lenovo so my 2 cents are a little biased.
     
  19. gaz256

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    your right, and thats exactly why he should build his own.

    there are a million different things you might want to build your computer for e.g. gaming, video editing, surfing, school work etc etc. building your own allows you to build EXACTLY (not nearly) the right computer for YOUR OWN personal needs and it allows you to do that at the cheapest possible price. it doesnt make a difference what you want to use it for; building a gaming pc or multimedia pc (like you said in your post) is no problem at all, you just buy the necessary parts.

    as for your desktop breaking it can happen to any computer, i have a computer like i said earlier that is around 13 yrs old that i built myself and that still works perfectly to this very day. building your own comp doesnt mean that it will break any quicker. in fact it means the complete opposite, you buy better quality parts because you can afford to as you save so much money building yourself. also you learn alot building your own comp, so if something does go wrong you know how to fix it. if you can build your own comp you must know a little bit about computers, so you will never come to the position where all of a sudden your pc is useless. if my pc breaks, i fix it myself. i find out what the problem is (and its usually pretty obvious) and then i replace the part. saves a hell of a lot of money when you can replace a £50 part yourself instead of sending your comp away and being over charged £200. also it takes 5 minutes instead of 6 weeks. also if something major does go wrong with your computer you can recycle several parts and you only have to spend a minimum upgrading.

    a computer never really breaks, just certain parts of it may break, the rest of it will work fine. so if your computer broke after 2 years, how did it break? what was wrong with it? which part broke? if you know then just replace it?

    as for noise level just do a bit of research, noise level is almost entirely dependent on the cpu fan and any case fans installed. you want a quiet machine buy a quiet cpu cooler (they cost anywhere from £10-50). a cheap one will do unless you want to go crazy overclocking. i have 8 fans in my current desktop and 7 of the fans are completely silent, the cpu fan (stock intel fan) is the only thing in my computer that makes any noise at all really. and its still quiet, and if i was unhappy id spend £10 buying a silent one. do abit of research and replace your cpu fan/case fans in your desktop at home if it bothers you.

    also if the computer is silent it may be due to a complete lack of fans as if the computer is 10 yrs old then the technology gap is huge. components didnt overheat like they do today so fans werent needed in many cases. so your mums comp may be quiet because its so old basically, if not then its just quiet because it has silent fans, and your desktop is louder because it has louder fans.

    also when the government orders computers im pretty sure they dont just ask the secretary to go online and shop around for the best deal on dell, lenovo, amazon, mesh etc. they will all be specifically ordered and purpose built. they dont just buy a large batch they order specifically what they need to every last detail. they tell a company what parts they want in which computers. i can assure you that you cant buy an identical government computer from lenovo, simply because your dont do the same things on your computer that the government do.

    hope all that doesnt sound too aggressive, it isnt meant to, im just trying to help the guy out since ive learnt alot from this site. thought id try and give a little back to the community since its a subject i know a little about :)
     
  20. poisonsembrace

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    I bought my mother an Eee Box (desktop version of the EeePC) and it works great.

    They're not the most powerful machines in the world but they make for a very cheap desktop. If you're doing simple stuff it'd work fine but it would choke on games on any sort of encoding or big multimedia.