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Complaining about PBN sellers on BHW.

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  1. SkyrocketSEO

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  2. Ste Fishkin

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    I don't get what you are saying?

    Are you saying that whole "you get what you pay for" bullshit is actually true?

    Well, fuck!
     
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    its not surprising as it depends on the meaning of "P" in PBN if public or private !
     
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    Just wanted to point this out!
     
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    What's the point of this thread? To promote your sig?
     
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    May be one of them are reseller so both can use the same website!
     
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    well i found a bunch of service providers are actually employees of the same office (so one seller hired 8 more people asked them to use their handles and start BST and resell his service.) , so far i have discovered 8 sellers. well i dont really buy that many services in the market place but if i can spot it others can too. not sure how MODS haven't noticed that yet.
     
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    Both those services are hosted on the same IP address **removed**

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    Not only is reselling rife in The Marketplace, there are also groups who work together to dominate certain sections, you might see 10 different services run by 10 different JrVIP's but the are all actually run by the same person. In some instances they have just paid for JrVIP accounts other times they persuade JrVIPs to resell for them. The only evidence I has is circumstantial but I am sure Admin could check the IP and location of these guys.
     
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    Not only is reselling rife in The Marketplace, there are also groups who work together to dominate certain sections, you might see 10 different services run by 10 different JrVIP's but the are all actually run by the same person. In some instances they have just paid for JrVIP accounts other times they persuade JrVIPs to resell for them. The only evidence I has is circumstantial but I am sure Admin could check the IP and location of these guys.[/QUOTE]

    I don't think admins are allowed to check their IP remember seeing that somewhere before. As long as there is evidence against them then they could solve it. It has something to do with their privacy.
     
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    The Issue between both of us already resolved, The other provider some domains got deindexed so he exchanged some posts from me

    And I'm providing hosting service from few years http://hostineasy.com/ , That's why Both hosted Ip are same, he is my close friends that's why I provided him free account as i have unlimited space

    issue already resolved and I'm already providing free posts to compensates for my mistake
     
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    It is unarguable that the findings and statements concerning reselling in the marketplace is strong.

    Admittedly, reselling is unavoidable. However, intent is very important.

    It is okay to resell a service sourced from a seller that is outside BHW. But establishing, overseeing, or promoting a reselling rig to skew the dynamics of sales in the marketplace is unfair to other sellers and buyers.

    Let us not get started on the rules. Breaking the rules comes with the territory in IM. Running stealth PP, AdSense, eBay, Fiverr accounts even when it is against their respective rules is a mainstay practice. With that said, it is up to the Admin to stamp their feet on what they want the marketplace to represent.

    Fiverr has a very lose check on who run services there, and coupled with other factors, it is now a dumpster of sort for most service types. I'm not sure the folks at Fiverr give a rat ar** anymore, they have a huge incentive to leave things the way they are, and most buyers already know what they'll be getting in advance.

    The BHW marketplace is a different kettle of fish altogether. I must say that two years after registering here, I still have solid reasons to continue using the forum (aside the service I run obviously). Many here make jokes of WF and WSO's with a straight face. It will be a shame if the joke is now on BHW.

    When buyers come here, I'm pretty certain they're not looking for a Fiverr experience. Now, powlow's case is consequential: Nonetheless, it is an aching symptom of a problem that is growing by the day.

    The BHW Admin team is terrific as far as I know and I agree they have persistent challenges and a bludgeoning workload. However, I think (and I believe a lot of members agree) that it is about time this problem is addressed before it eats deeper, creates a backlash (negative news spread faster), and cause people to avoid the marketplace like a scourge.

    I propose that the Administration state their non-partisan official stance on this issue, make a strong statement, and if possibly embark on a cleansing scourge to prove that they indeed see this as a problem, and are committed to reducing its efficacy.
     
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    There might be a solution to this problem: Allow bad reviews on Sales Threads.

    I have been warned by BHW for posting a bad review based on my experience with a seller.

    This made me ask a question: How am I supposed to make a real decision based on a Sales Thread with only requests for samples, discounts and good reviews?

    Please enlighten me:stoned:
     
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    Bad reviews aren't allowed? I'm pretty sure I wasted a sales thread here who didn't deliver and started avoiding me. I didn't shit list the guy because apparently he was in dire situation in his country, but I did lambast his sales thread beyond recognition.
     
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    I'm the one who made the first thread and I closed it because I knew it would turn out in a drama thread.

    Both seller came quickly to me with good solutions.

    They explained me why this happened and also apologies quickly. They didn't denied it at all like some would have done.

    The seller tried to help his friend, that's all but unfortunately it resulted as 1 mistake.

    All is now resolved.

    I'm happy with how they both reacted, how they handled the situation in a professional way and this kind of mistake will never happened again.

    Case closed on my side.

    Powlow29
     
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    I don't think looking up someones IP address is forbidden. They're all logged in the backend of vbulletin
     
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    They might be from India, I have contacted 3 sellers before and I asked for bank details to transfer money since I'm from India I can't pay via paypal. The interesting part is both 3 gave the same bank Details. (Account Holder Name, Bank, City, State)
    I can't reveal their names but MOD should take some action against them. Also they took my skype ID from here and spam my inbox with their Services.


    Not only is reselling rife in The Marketplace, there are also groups who work together to dominate certain sections, you might see 10 different services run by 10 different JrVIP's but the are all actually run by the same person. In some instances they have just paid for JrVIP accounts other times they persuade JrVIPs to resell for them. The only evidence I has is circumstantial but I am sure Admin could check the IP and location of these guys.[/QUOTE]
     
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    I think the point of this thread probably is that such service couldn't cost 2$, so when people buy smth for 2 bucks they must expect to get nothing but bs.
     
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    I will make another thread pointing to this thread.

    You could have actually commented there. Why this one ?
     
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    It's locked, no one can comment on it.

    You are honestly on a different league.
     
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