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Competitors, Likes & Followers

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  1. Cake

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    Hey guys,

    got a few questions. Found a superb niche (The niche is actually the content and the language itself) and i guess i am doing pretty well.
    Just by using the manually like method i went from 0 up to 1000 followers in 2 1/2 months.
    When i recently found the BHW forum i started using Instagress free trial and sticked to it.
    Only by using the automated Like method with the highest Likes / hour i could convince ~10% to follow my page.

    When i started with the project i had no clue about instagram, hashtags and stuff. So i am a pretty noob but i am willing to learn.
    I always thought if you wanna go big you have to be exclusive, so i didn’t followed anyone in this time. Faithful to the slogan "First never follows". I thought i would use the spot for companies which could buy them in, like an exclusive place for advertising :D but i guess it’s not realistic and possible?! Anyways..


    .... it gets tricky now: My content isn’t unseen anymore and i triggered a Competitor. He just started an account what triggered myself lol. Don’t get me wrong. I am not scared of competition, i am just a big noob in this instagram game.
    I aimed for creating a Brand, maybe selling cups, T-shirts and stuff. Got Ideas for YouTube and a Homepage with MyLiks was also planned.

    And now is there someone who knows how to play the instagram game. He follows and Unfollows and i am pretty sure he is aiming for my followers. No big deal so far.
    But i wanna protect my baby and my spot, and believe me when i say, i wanna hold him down.
    My advantages over him are: High Quality content against 10min stuff and ~70% more followers.

    My Questions:
    Should i stick to my method and only liking or should i starting with commentating and un/following?
    The idea of selling the following spot is just a noob idea or maybe possible?
    How can i hold him down?
    MyLikes a thing to aim for ? Or should i build a page by myself? (poor HTML knowledge :/) Just wanna earn a bit by ads.
    and last but not least:
    Sorry for Crap englisherino. But i am not a .... you know it already when you read this all :DD

    Greetings and thank you in advance! Love this Community already <3

    Cake
     
  2. datsunguy

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    start commenting and following too,

    how many followers do you have now? and how many does your competitor have as well as how long have they been going? you might have 70 percent more followers today but tomorrow can be diffrent story.


    selling a following spot is very much a noob idea, lol.
    how many followers are you gaining per day? 1000 followers in 2 and half months is very slow
     
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    can you tell us more about this new niche?
    building a website yourself isnt rocket science with companies like wix.com and is you are genuanlly intrested in your niche it can be a better and more fulling option for you.
     
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    Thanks for your Response. ~80 followers a day. He has right now bit more then 100.
    I am aiming for the 2000. Its not a new niche.. it just dont exist in the polish speaking instagram community. Nothing special.
    Guess i need to go this way since he is starting growing pretty fast.
    You are right, since it is my baby, i should care especielly about the website.
     
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    since you are still quite a small page, my advice is too focus on growing for now atleast till 10k
    80 followers per day is pretty decent especially since you are not commenting or following, so tstart that and see if you can get above 100-120 followers a day.

    consider teaming up with other similar pages to give each other shoutouts, also since instagram is so big competitors dont matter too much just take a look at the luxury niche which has 1000s of pages.

    since you are doing pretty good with 80 followers a day with a bit of work you an be earning 3k+ new followers every month
     
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    I think from this point it's A. a numbers game and B. a quality game.

    You mentioned you're way better regarding quality, which is nice because no matter how many followers the competitor gets, the conversion will always be lower than yours (or someone's with a better quality account).

    Now, that doesn't mean he'll earn less than you. If he gets 60k followers and has 1% conversion it's still better than you with 2k and 10%. Though I don't know how you are currently monetizing it or willing to in the future.
    If you are going for branding buy a .com domain. That's fundamental. Get a nice wp theme, customize it, make it engaging, unique, give it content and you're good to go.
    Btw I'd automate the IG (not the posting but the follow/unfollow and liking)

    P.S. Polak, Węgier dwa bratanki... ;)
     
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    Thanks Mate! Appreciate your thoughts on that.
    Is there any pattern you would recommend towards the un/follow thing?
    Dunno actually how to handle it [​IMG]right now I follow 20/1h and unfollowing 0/1h.
    How many accounts should I follow. 25% of mine? And then 50/50 follow unfollow?

    And thanks for the link! Awesome Site!

    hehehe ....i do szabli, i do szklanki.... [​IMG]

    So true, 60k with 1%is much better then 2k and 10%. Will aim for it now.
    I currently not monetizing, guess with 2k there is not much you can do. But the plan was going for YouTube, a website and selling t-shirts cups and stuff.
     
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    patterns are diffrent for everyone start slow and build up see where you feel comfortable and where your limits are
     
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    Few things to consider: 1. never follow and unfollow the same day. either this or that. 2.no more than 50/h and no more than 400 / day (to keep it really slow steady and safe) 3. NEVER I repeat NEVER follow patterns. Human behaviour is unpredictable. If it's algo or if it's pattern it's a bot. (Or a really strange guy)

    Tipical merch like shirts and cups are actually really good. You said you have a language related thing or something like that. If it's a joke with a f...ing awesome design, everyone will like it. Brand, design, joke, sales.

    Btw a hint: the Polish-Hungarian facebook and other social groups are VERY strong... I've been thinking of doing shirts and other merch for this connection (because all their designs are shit) but no time for that. Anyway good luck with your monetizing mat!
     
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    hello, sure start following, dont' commenting.
    Also you try to catch which user scrape your followers, so just put the blacklist. And he will not see you again
     
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    I couldn't agree more, you have a huge advantage with your quality posts. Your follower will recognize the quality, don't get sloppy.
    In fact I would suggest using your quality to go one step further. Depending on your niche you could try to go more viral by using very current issues/events in your posts or by interacting with your followers even more.
     
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    First of All, Thx to all! You guys are Amazing. Already learned so many things just by reading. Awesome

    The last 2 days I was following with a speed of 25/h. was awesome. The day’s before I got ~80 new followers a day. Now it’s about ~140.
    But the best thing is: The Comments went up like a good German Lufthansa plane. Dunno actually why, but its growing :)
    Guess I will Follow 2 day’s and unfollow 1 day and then switch up with different settings.
    Today I will use the unfollow settings for the first time. Let’s see how many will unfollow the site after that.

    Can confirm for Instagram, but actually not for Facebook. Can´t transfer instagramer to my Facebook page with the link in my bio. Can’t even reach the 3 digits on Facebook. Same for Twitter.
    But I am focusing right now on Youtube and Website/Shop. So not that bad in the moment

    Great Point! First I thought you mean the Blacklist in Instagress :D Didn´t even knew there is sth. Like a blacklist in Instagram. Thanks!
    I feel very uncomfortable with the commenting option so I just used it once. So that’s no point in the moment. What is the reason you don’t recommend it?

    Oh yeah! Just saw the Impact on Halloween/All Saints day. Wonderful Engagement.

    Does anyone of you have a hint for me how i can setup a website where i can have 3 categories and repost the daily insta/face/twitter content? 2 categories for the daily content 1 for specal Photoseries.
    In the Best case the daily photos are in the middle of the page sourrended by ads. lol
    Thought about wordpress but its still a long way to go, if you have no clue :D

    Thx to you all guys!
    Feel free to hit me up on Tele: CakeMi or Kik: Cake.Mi
     
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    commenting is very spam, because you even don't know what about the photos, so just automate commenting, it's not good.
    also instagram is strict with commenting. you easily get ban
     
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    indeed, it is really annoying when people comment with "that is a really awesome photo", but you just posted a video.. xD
     
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    when done right and depending on niche comments work really well... hell i've found having a comment with a simple spelling mistake to be really effective. just think outside of the box and avoid stuff like 'wow' 'love this' 'this is great' and other generic stuff like that
     
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    Hey guys,

    a quick update from my side!

    First of all: I was lazy and busy in the last weeks and Instagress was on autopilot. So far so good, 500 - 700 new Followers a week. Since I am a noob it was descent and I just focused on creating Content.
    Until last week...

    When I looked at my competitor I was only 10% ahead and somehow I got tears in my eyes :D He went really ham and was following really really much. Guess he reached the limit in a very short time.
    The Result was: He got banned? For 1 or 2 days. Wasn’t possible 2 look at his Profile. After this Bann? He didn’t showed any activity :). 1 Me 0 Competitor.

    In this Time I finally found a really great Engagement Group which is using a Bot. The group showed me how limited Instagress is. In the beginning of an Account it’s really good and useful with the Limits, but when you reach a point it’s just a brake. 60 Likes an Hour and 40 Un/Follows is just crap. The sad thing is, before I got into the group, I just purchased a Instagress 90days Package on Cybermondey :/
    Unlucky me. A few days later with the knowledge of the group I would see how useful MP & FL are :D
    The negative point about Instagress is: You can’t use any list and you are forced to like the Lists manually. That’s about 300 pics you have to like in a short time.

    Guess I will switch to MP or FL in the next time and use Instagress 4 my second account in the beginning. The plan was anyways to split the account since I have 2 Contents which would work when I split them. But that’s the Future.

    For now my focus is on creating a YouTube Channel, a Simple Website with AdSense & and when I am done with this, I am aiming for Merch Stuff which will be linked on the Site and on the Tube Channel.


    YouTube Channel:
    Content is nearly created. Will release 3 or 4 vids with the same content but with different voices. So that the Viewership can decide which they want to hear in the Future and yeah just to have more clicks, videos and views :D

    Website:
    Got a bit into Wordpress. Was confused when I made an Account on Wordpress.com and couldn’t add a Free AdSense Theme from BHW. Now I am smarter and know that there is a difference between Org and com. But my skills are really rudimentary. Tried to setup the theme offline but I failed. Lot of work I have to do here. Guess I will look for a freelance here which can help me with Wordpress and Themes. Hopefully I can find a good guy, since I am not willing to pay every price.

    AdSense:
    Heard that the easiest way to get an AdSense Account is with YouTube. Guess I will go this way. Need to collect here more information.

    Merch:
    Saw many cheap ads in these Groups which are offering graphics and stuff. Guess i will purchase here a few designs for the merch. Of course I will also create my designs. Since that’s the fun party about that all.

    Hope i could collect my thoughts in a understable way :D

    Greetings Cake

    P.s does anyone know a good alternative to iconosquare.com? My Trial expiered :/
     
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    With this answer you demonstrated who the real noob is.

    At least OP is thinking out of the box and I will tell you another secret: I make a passive income by selling following spots in a specific niche (monthly fee). I follow up to 9 to keep it "exclusive" for the customers.