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Cloud VPS With CPanel

Discussion in 'Web Hosting' started by blacktrilby, Mar 19, 2015.

  1. blacktrilby

    blacktrilby Power Member

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    This is the first time I have looked at the cloud so I am a bit lost.
    Can I get cloud VPS With CPanel?
    If so any recommendations.
     
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    Yes you can get cloud VPS with cPanel but cloud VPS's are best used for single site and for the single site, you wouldn't need much of the cPanel features.

    What do you want to host on the VPS and what are all the features you need on your server?
     
  3. blacktrilby

    blacktrilby Power Member

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    Thanks.
    I need to host around 10-15 Wordpress sites so I will need cpanel with addon domains.
     
  4. FBGuru

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    Whats your budget?
     
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    Hello,

    there are many providers that can give you VPS with cpanel.Go to the marketplace and choose the best offer for you ! :)
     
  6. blacktrilby

    blacktrilby Power Member

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    Budget doesn't matter really.

    From what I am reading I may be better off with a normal VPS or Dedi.
    The only reason I was looking into it was because of speed.
     
  7. Stablebox

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    Honestly, that couldn't be any more incorrect. You don't typically buy a cloud vps, vps, dedicated server, etc. to only host one website unless it is extremely popular, would be a complete wast of money.

    At the end of the day it will all depends on how many resources you need and how much you are wanting to spend.

    Shared web hosting will typically handle quite a lot of traffic (As long as you aren't buying from an overloaded EIG brand) from which you would typically upgrade to a decent VPS. Typically there is no real difference in performance between a cloud vps and a standard vps, however I would suggest making sure you are on SSD's with either solution as that can help your overall performance immensely.

    You would then upgrade to a dedicated server when upgrading the VPS resources (RAM, CPU & HDD) no longer make money sense (Ie. it costs more to upgrade the VPS than buy a dedicated with SSD's).

    In any case, cPanel can be installed on a vps, cloud vps, dedicated server or almost any similar solution.
     
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  8. FBGuru

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    I'm not a big fan of crowded servers and laggy sites and as a Network Admin, I like to keep the resources dedicated only to the site the server is hosting. The sites I host on the cloud VPS would max out the allocated resources even when running nginx and varnish but then I realized you're running a hosting service yourself so "I completely understand" why you say that.
     
  9. Stablebox

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    Honestly that doesn't make much sense there either.

    Why wouldn't you simply upgrade the allocated resources for the Cloud VPS instance appropriately?

    I am not saying you should host 5K websites on a single VPS, but a separate VPS for every website is pretty much absurd. The amount of CPU, RAM & HDD you are wasting just to run the base operating system is resources you could easily be using on the first VPS to power your additional website. Even if you are using a virtualization tech like OpenVZ you are wasting 100's of MB on the RAM side and numerous CPU cycle with literally no gain at all.

    The VPS resources aside, the amount of additional admin time also makes no sense. You now have to manage numerous VPS's as opposed to one or two.

    At the end of the day you are wasting RAM, CPU, HDD, bandwidth, your time, etc. all for next to nothing.

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    That all said, if you are running websites where one could pose a security risk to the next then running separate VPS's makes perfect sense (ie if you are running a wordpress website and also need to run a billing system, you should run them on seperate VPS's for sure and at the same time if you are running two wordpress sites there is no reason to have each on its own VPS).
     
  10. FBGuru

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    Not just that but also to save other sites on the server from a DDOS attack. Spending a few extra bucks per month for dedicated resources is better than making all your sites hosted on a shared VPS go down due to a DOS attack that is targeted towards a single site hosted on a shared server. I run 100+ cloud servers at the moment and I can configure stuffs on any server within 10 secs max. If you want to save administration time, learn more about puppet, chef or ansible. Will save you loads of time. I don't disagree with you but the market I'm in and the clients I deal with are completely different than what you suggest. Peoples who want power, performance, security and reliability can't expect it when they share the resources with several sites. The biggest reward you get when hosting on a dedicated VPS is the peace of mind. Something you don't get on a shared environment and that's worth the extra bucks. There's a difference between riding a Maserati and travelling on a public transportation like Bus even though both gives same amount of mileage with the same fuel.
     
  11. papercut

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    A shared hosting plan on a decent server will serve you this - and they are cheaper than most vps plans.
     
  12. Stablebox

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    You are changing the dynamic of the conversation.

    The OP noted he is looking to install cPanel to manage his own websites/domains which means much of your points are unfortunately for not in the current context. Coming to your point of having a separate VPS for each clients, that is certainly a good solution especially when you have high priority clients where the utmost security is within their budget.

    As to the "peace of mind", a VPS/Cloud VPS is still a 100% shared as far as the host node is concerned.

    -CPU - even with pinned CPU cores, other services will still hit your core as the host node balances resources.
    -RAM - RAM can be dedicated in the sense that is can all be allocated at boot time of the guest, but almost all virtualization system have some sort of memory sharing and enabled by default.
    -HDD - While you can thick provision the space, there is almost no way to dedicated I/O.
    -Network - All shared unless they are giving you a dedicated NIC port which next to no cloud/vps provider will do (makes no sense).

    All in all, you if you are a good sysadmin working inside an ethical hosting provider you should be sleeping peacefully at night no matter it a VPS or shared web hosting. That said, no matter how you host your websites as long as you have good backup solution you should be sleeping well no matter what knowing you can easily recover in the event there is a failure.

    In the end, each to their own. Everyone has different ideas on how to properly manage a deployment and it will always depend on the clients budget.
     
  13. MayaK

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    You can check VPS.UK.Com for hosting cloud VPS with Cpanel. I have used their service and its pretty good.
     
  14. bambi

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    Linode is awesome but you have to get the cpanel license yourself and install it too. They have a guide on how to do it and it's rather easy if you're familiar with ssh.
     
  15. Stablebox

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    +1 You can always buy an external cPanel license from BuycPanel (its a license provider, works well) and use it on any VPS or dedicated server provider.

    Just keep in mind cPanel require rhel 5 or 6 for the main OS, typically CentOS 6.6 is used these days.
     
  16. ugjunk

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    If you have a linux machine, you can easily install cPanel regardless of you buying dedicated server, VPS or going cloud.

    Most of the popular cloud hosting companies are self-managed, so you will need some linux experience, if not then go with semi-managed or fully managed VPS providers. Make sure you get SSD based servers.
     
  17. papercut

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    I would recommend ordering a low end server and installing cPanel through that server. Make sure at the point of order, you can upgrade your specifications when your sites start receiving more high traffic vistors.
     
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    QHoster.com provides quality VPS deals with high uptime and their prices are rock-bottom.
    Support is active around the clock. They offer many useful payment methods like Bitcoin, Payza, etc..
     
  19. papercut

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    is quality guranteed?
     
  20. NickJonathan

    NickJonathan Newbie

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    I say do this :
    NO NEED TO GET CPANEL instead,

    1. Get a vps from anywhere.
    2. Install Webuzo in it. It is a free control panel and works like a charm xD