Cloak or redirect?

hi
I wanted to know if SE would ban you for redirecting traffic from your w/site
to other sites using redirect script
for example if i use doorway page generator and using the Js redirect
would that be acceptable?

My question is
if redirecting is allowed, then the traffic will be sent to website XYZ
If you use cloaking it will display web site XYZ
although they use different methods the end result will be website XYZ

so if redirecting is allowed why use cloaking?
can anyone share their experience?

thanks
Realofficer

Depends on the redirect.
Some will index the redirect page, with all cloaking text on it, but a straight redirect wouldnt index really at all.

And Google usually bans all the cloaking JS redirects.

But things like Phantom Cloaker and others, is great for other engines and will bring in some traffic in google for a while. Your best using throw away cheap 99c domains for this or getting some sort of free .cc domain or such.

For most out of the box cloaking or doorway generators, id suggest removing all fingerprints and making it totally custom, as these are an easy way for a ban.

SO basically generate content with what ever means
you have ie doorways, yacg etc and serve the
landing pages via your cloaking script.
Use cheap throw away domains until baned and repeat the
process.

Thanks Harro..
that was really helpful

cloak, cloak and cloak.

no need to re-direct.

At least with cloaking, you can include links in your cloaked pages.

If you re-direct, the pages will eventually fall of the google charts.

its all about the cloaking.

I have over 5000 pages cloaked for one site in a vertical market and they are quite happy (and so am I).

My opinion is to cloak!