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Churn & Burn & GSA SER Newbie Needs Help

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by sotto123, Sep 5, 2014.

  1. sotto123

    sotto123 Registered Member

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    I bought GSA SER, captcha breaker and indexer yesterday and am pretty amazed at what these tools can do. I set up a one page Wordpress blog to advertise a clickbank product to test things out. So far I've built 8314 verified links but the indexer is incredibly slow, having indexed just 577 links.
    Making money isn't too important yet as I just want to test things out. I was on page 19 last night and am now nowhere to be seen, which I think is normal in the very early stages. However, I'm kind of confused on a few things, even though I spent hours yesterday reading as much as I could until the early morning.

    1. There seems to be two schools of thought. Blast the shit out of the blog/website to get as many links as possible in as short time as possible seems to be what I've heard the most. But I've also read that if you're doing that you're doing something wrong. However, whenever someone says the latter, they never expand on it. I'm not asking for anyone to divulge their secrets, but a step in the right direction would be nice. I'm doing the former because as a complete newbie I read Sudo's guide and this is what he does for parasite pages.

    2. Does the churn and burn method you use depend on whether you're working with a self-hosted website or parasite page? Parasite pages seem to be a bit of a hassle due to not many allowing affiliate links and not being able to 301 redirect when the blog gets deleted. But due to the waiting period and parasite site authority it sounds like you can do and get away with a lot more.

    3. Any recommendations for anchor text diversification? So far I'm using 5% exact, 15% LSI, 70% generic and 10% domain as anchor text. However, when I check the site in ahrefs I'm seeing 66% for a Chinese character for some reason, which I really don't understand how or why it appeared.
    Also, how many keywords do you input for the LSI box (the others don't need inputting) and can use you spintax here?

    4. How many verified links is good to post in a day? Do you just keep GSA running all day or have some sort of method like 10k for the first few days, check rankings, then maintain or increase depending on where you're ranking?
     
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  2. Angelo1710

    Angelo1710 Junior Member

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    I would also want to know more about this subject.
     
  3. sotto123

    sotto123 Registered Member

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    100 views and no replies. Considering the number of people who use GSA on this forum, I'm sure there's someone who can help me out...
     
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    because even they don't know what's something.

    2. parasites are working for me for now , link to landing page or cloak and redirect to offer a few days later after posting the link.

    3. right click on engines > disable the ones that don't use anchor text . % is random for me , i never use the same % for different projects. atleast 100 lsi's . yes spintx.

    4. as many as i can build in one day.
     
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  5. LeanLow

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    I don't use this method but i believe you are 2~ months to late... It takes about 20-30 days to rank now, and by this time you will get hit by penguin.
     
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    However the many of churn and burns that are still around disproves your myth.
     
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    1. Don't build too many links per day. Build links at a moderate rate to avoid getting sandboxed. Even parasite pages do get sandboxed.

    2. Parasite pages can handle large amounts of links better than custom domains.

    3. Your current percentages are ideal. The presence of Chinese anchor text is due to the Chinese sites in your list.

    4. Same answer as No. 1. Start with 50 or 100 per day.

    You mentioned that your indexer is too slow. Ours (One Hour Indexing) is very fast and it has lots of positive reviews. Check out our sales thread here: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...t-increases-your-rankings-dont-just-ping.html

    We are currently offering a discount coupon. If you need it just ask on our sales thread and I'll send it to you via PM
     
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  8. luckymanhiring

    luckymanhiring Newbie

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    Things have changed a great deal over the past few months, so you will really need to test things out. Use parasite pages as well on established websites for quicker results.
     
  9. sotto123

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    When you say cloak and redirect, do you mean purchase a self-hosted domain, link to that on the parasite page and then redirect the self-hosted domain to the offer?
     
  10. sotto123

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    Never mind, I think I figured it out. I just set up a redirect in namecheap to the affiliate offer. I'm sure this isn't foolproof in stopping my page from getting deleted but it must be better than using bitly or linking directly.
     
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    Totally agreed. Just after i left seo im watching how other guys rank in days for competitive kws lol. I may get back to seo later lol
     
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    create a page on your hosted domain , link to that page . Then after a few days 301 that url to the offer. I have seen accounts deleted if i link to a affiliate page , but no problem after it has been manually checked.
     
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  13. sotto123

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    I feel I have a decent setup going on now - GSA SER, GSA Captcha Breaker, SEO Indexer, VPS, 1k yahoo emails, 20 semi-dedicated proxies and WAC.

    I've got one more question:

    Even though I'm building and trying to rank parasite pages, instead of blasting all platforms (or almost all) isn't it better to create maybe 1k tier 1's a day for a few days, then blast the tier 1's with 10k blog comments, forum links, social bookmarks, trackbacks, videos etc. each day for a few days?

    I'm obviously going to test all these things, but I think I've misunderstood churn and burn and link blasts to solely mean create as many links as possible from all platforms in as short time frame as possible. Have I?
     
  14. koolkake

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    from my experience, you can still consider it 'churn and burn' if you use up to a tier 3 system (or higher, it doesn't matter). from my limited testing, i think the tier system you mention is working better than just a full on blast