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Churn and Burn Am I doing it right?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by TheRealDealN4, Nov 22, 2014.

  1. TheRealDealN4

    TheRealDealN4 Newbie

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    So I am looking to make some quick money on the sidelines. I have two legit projects I am working on right now, but I would like to test a churn and burn for some quick cash, which would help a lot right now. Yesterday I spent a couple of hours, researching and finding keywords. I found exactly what I want to target(with long tailed keywords). Its going to be an Amazon niche. So what I have now is: New Domain, Hosting, and Budget for spam back links and other resources.
    I don't know how to use GSA/other software. So my best bet will be buying back links. So I was thinking about doing this to get started.

    1. Create 3-5 Web 2.0s (long tailed keywords) (This I can do without spending)
    2. The content is a problem for me. I have a little bit of a budget, but not a lot. I could probably pay for unique content, (Reviews on the product) 10x300 Articles/ Reviews. But then I would have to settle for spun content. I was thinking about just using spun content so I could keep the website consistent (Any advice here would be awesome)
    3. Just spam 100-250k Links per week and hopefully before X-Mas I'll rank and band (Any advice here would also be great! And very well appreciated!)

    Thanks BHW
     
  2. Walt Heisenberg Jr

    Walt Heisenberg Jr Registered Member

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    No you're doing it wrong.
     
  3. djw1606

    djw1606 Regular Member

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    Before you jump into this, realize that most churn and burn projects fail.

    If you use spun content, the mods on the web 2.0 sites will likely delete the sites. If you use spun content on your money site, no-one will buy anything.

    Rather than jumping straight into c&b on a website you own, why don't you start by trying to rank a parasite page. You won't need as much content, so you will be able to afford better, unique, hand-written content. And the page is likely to rank quicker. This should be a cheaper option for you.

    Check out some of Tommy's threads. He's an expert on churn and burn, and his thread on ranking parasite pages is epic:

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...9-parasites-pwn-leeching-authority-sites.html

    I will be honest, I have only tried to c&b once, and it was a magnificent failure. I had a total of 1 sales! Which put £20 in my clickbank account, but I must have wasted £200 on the site.

    I really hope some expert c&b people drop by your thread and give you stronger advice than I can give, but I just wanted to share some of my thoughts.

    Whatever you end up doing, I wish you the very best of luck.
     
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  4. Peter Ngo

    Peter Ngo Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    To be honest, C&b is not like what it used to be, a few blast and hell yea i am in the top.

    The game has changed, change so fast that any publicized method can be nerfed immediately, so you won't really see any good churn and burn tactics here except those would refer to their BSTs.

    If your budget is low, push all your power in to your legit sites, when your income increases, you can then work on your own churn and burn method.
     
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  5. YoungGooner

    YoungGooner Junior Member

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    I 100% agree with @peterngo91 C&B used to work great before,but now its all about link relevancy,getting links that are relevant to your site,regardless of their pr is way more powerful than spamming with millions of unrelated links..But,This is just my opinion and tests that i did.
     
  6. fc-dh

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    C&B is still alive and kicking ass but you have to change some stuff.

    First of all content, you can use spun content but manually spin it so that moderates and site owners leave it up there.


    Backlinking is not about the amount but the type of backlinks, in this case contextual.

    This is my system that i still use to power my web2.0 properties and my local lead C&B sites.

    GSA
    This is a 3 tier system with high quality links that stick.

    Tier1 Contextual links <<<< tier 1a Kitchen Sink links
    ^^ ^^ ^^
    Tier2 Contextual links <<<< tier 2a Kitchen Sink links
    ^^ ^^ ^^
    Tier3 Contextual links <<<< tier 3a Kitchen Sink links


    Make sure that here to you use manual spun content, for tier two i use a 750 manual spun article, what i do (for tier 2 and 3) is grabbing two articles (about a 1000/1500 words) put them together and only manual spin the first and the last 100 words so it looks like content curation and the content should always be readable.

    To get a better tier one my settings are pr1+ and OBL 50, that doesn't get you a lot of links (like a 100 a day depending on niche, llist and keywords) but they have more power to them.

    Web 2.0
    I build with autofillmagic 25 good quality web 2.0 properties (i am in the process of having this down for me) and blast them with kitchensink links from my own list (500K at least)

    Blogpostings/PBN

    For a view bucks you can get links blasted to your site or web2.0 from PBN's that will also give your site/property some punch up the rankings.

    What i also do is using a domain that i 301 to a target so i can keep my link juice power and change targets after i get slammed bu Google.

    This system ranks me for semi hard local keywords in the top 3 every time (that means above the google places pack) but they never last longer than 12 weeks (record is 11 weeks and 2 days to be exact :) )

    So make sure you get your investment back and use a domain to save your link juice after the slap


    Dave
     
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  7. pradep89

    pradep89 Power Member

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    as you are saying your budget is low then you can spin article and make editing in it. so that i will look natural editing will make it unique and then you can use it for web2.0 and many other site. if you can write good attractive article then i must suggest go for gust post and many other source. all work will be free of cost and you will get amazing links
     
  8. puffinmuffin

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    There is no guarantee you would win with churn and burn, it may never work for you.
     
  9. TheRealDealN4

    TheRealDealN4 Newbie

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    Thank you this has given me some ideas, and other ways to link build. I am coming back to SEO and I after a while. (2008-2012 where I was very active) I really appreciate the help. I still have a little bit of a budget because I have had some success with a Youtube Channel I ran, so I am thinking about purchasing autofillmagic like you stated. Thanks
     
  10. Beastman

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    If you are not experienced with GSA, and don't have much money to afford to burn in learning with it, and need money quickly, I wouldn't use your time pursuing churn and burn projects. Your chances of failure are too great.