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Choosing PBN domains - TF/CF

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by moonlighsunligh, Nov 26, 2014.

  1. moonlighsunligh

    moonlighsunligh Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    When I am looking for PBN domains, I am finding a lot of expired domains that looks pretty good - they weren't SEO-ed before nor used in a blog network. These are mainly domains that droped just once.

    The backlinks they have are great, natural links, some even from leading online newspapers. Anchors are clean and natural. Np signs of spam on archive.org. The only thing that isn't just the right are TF and CF. For most domains the TF is lower than CF and both of them are quite low. For example metrics of the latest domain I registered are: TF:10 ,CF:17, PA:24 and DA :12.

    So does TF and CT and the number TF/CF matters that much.
     
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    What really matters is the quality of backlinks, and what the site was used for in the past.
    But to answer your question, as long as its 10+ its a go for me.

    You can spam links and alter the CF a lot, so I dont even rely on that.
    However, trust flow is a bit harder to alter. Doesn't mean I fully rely on it.

    All in all, with me, as long as its 10+ and the backlinks are good, along with the quality
    of the site in the past, then I'll go for it.
     
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  3. moonlighsunligh

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    Do you mean 10+ for the fresh or the historic index?
     
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    Fresh.
    Historic is nice. But I'm pretty sure the recent and current stats matter most.
     
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    Divide CF with TF and if you see the Result is Less than 1.8 then Site Quality is Ok... Also check with "www" and without "WWW" to ensure about the Site Quality... Like example..



    Check The Screenshot..

    Google Site:
    BAD SITE/Spam SITE
     
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    What? Just because the www. version has higher stats, or the non www. version has higher stats doesn't mean its a bad site.
    It just means thats what the homepage re-directs too, so thats where most to all of the link juice goes.

    Im positive there are legit sites that you could buy, that have the same thing going.
    And to rely on a function, that uses the numbers is not reliable at all.

    If you do that, then please look at other stats as well, including the backlink quality and the quality of how the site was in the past.

    Even so, I'll still agree that there can be sites with the issue you pointed out. However like I said, if you want the deciding factor,
    then look at the backlinks.
     
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    TF higher than CF is usually a good thing.
     
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  8. tutughosh

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    you guess me wrong Buddy... Based on WWW or without WWW site DA/PA and CF/TF Changed.. I told to check if the Result show less than 1.8...
     
  9. Jack Torrance

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    Yep this is the best and what I usually hunt. I only really go for sites with CF/TF very close or TF higher.

    The only bad thing is that nofollow links contribute to the score.
     
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    Quality of the links is what matters, but Majestic did a huge study where they showed the lower the CF/TF ratio (1.8 was average, the lower the better), so that's how I analyze domains super fast before I investigate them more in-depth.
     
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    These metrics should only be used as guides, but your sample metrics look good. You can always improve upon them later. Do they have pr?
     
  13. Walt Heisenberg Jr

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    I personally never buy a domain unless it has a trust flow of 18+
     
  14. snaip

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    I really wonder why people are so obsessed with metrics. Google use LINKS to rank sites, not TF/CF/DA/PA.
    You said these domains have "great, natural links, some even from leading online newspapers" - my question is why not buy the domain?
     
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    You wanna Buy Newspaper Sites..???
     
  16. snaip

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    No. I meant, why not buy the domain with links from news sites, not the news site.
    English is not my native language, I already edited my reply and hope it's clear now
     
  17. Jack Torrance

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    The Majestic metrics do a great job of detecting sh*t. It's very rare that you check the backlinks of a site with a very poor TF/CF ratio and see a great, clean profile. VERY rare. Actually I've never seen that... Though my own site has its metrics altered by NoFollow iframed Wikipedia junk.
     
  18. moonlighsunligh

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    Maybe it is the case that it has low TF in case of expired domains?

    I saw that in some niches even top ranking sites have TF is lower that CF. #1 results for some niches.