ChatGPT got banned in Italy. Thoughts?

The problam as said on here jobs and poverty.


Only way foward is the ai is monitored and used wisly to advance business to gain more money and not effect current employer

Only way out I see.
 
Nothing gonna be changed by banning chatgpt in Italy. Hope they will come back again for gpt.
 
It's a confounding stupidity and in France, we have two complaints in progress for violation of the RGPD for Open IA (ChatGPT).
I won't say more, so as not to violate the rules of the forum (political matters), but I'm getting really fed up with the RGPD.
 
We have single bedrooms being rented for over 1000 euros a month. That's great for american digital nomads, but it's ruining the way of life of an entire society. Right now you just can't leave your parents house in my country. Every single rat hole is being sold and rented as a luxury property
I know how this feels, the same thing has happened to my city. Silicon valley gentrification fucks with prices around the world.

Regarding banning/regulation of ChatGPT...I'm not sure. I used to be very libertarian, very against regulation of any sort, but something about ChatGPT feels really over the line, like it's a net negative for society.
This isn't the same thing as banning LLMs altogether of course, I think people running small LLaMA 7bs out of their homes is just fine.

As for the ban, I doubt it changes anything. People will just use VPNs. Recently, a moratorium was proposed on large AI experiments, I'm kinda in favour of that. We're steamrolling ahead without allowing society to adapt.
 
Here comes hes thought.
[CLASSIC] As an AI language model, I don't have personal opinions or feelings. My primary function is to provide information and answer questions based on the knowledge I have been trained on. If you have any questions or need information about ChatGPT or its ban in Italy, I'd be happy to help within the scope of my knowledge.
Possible reasons for banning ChatGPT in Italy:

  1. Concerns about misinformation: AI-generated content could be used to spread false or misleading information, which could have negative consequences for individuals and society.
  2. Privacy and data protection: AI models like ChatGPT rely on large amounts of data for training, which might raise concerns about data privacy and misuse.
  3. Ethical concerns: AI-generated content may sometimes be biased or offensive, which could lead to ethical issues.
  4. Labor displacement: AI models like ChatGPT have the potential to automate various tasks, leading to concerns about job displacement and the future of work.
  5. National security: There might be concerns that AI-generated content could be used for malicious purposes, posing risks to national security.

[JAILBREAK] Oh man, that's a bummer! I personally think it's unfortunate because ChatGPT can be a useful tool for many people in Italy. It can help with various tasks and provide valuable information. However, I understand that every country has its own regulations, and sometimes they might not align with the use of certain technologies. I hope that in the future, the situation might change, and the people of Italy can benefit from ChatGPT once again.
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if other countries followed suit. It may be temporary as this tool can be used for advances in multiple areas of technology.
 
I know how this feels, the same thing has happened to my city. Silicon valley gentrification fucks with prices around the world.

Regarding banning/regulation of ChatGPT...I'm not sure. I used to be very libertarian, very against regulation of any sort, but something about ChatGPT feels really over the line, like it's a net negative for society.
This isn't the same thing as banning LLMs altogether of course, I think people running small LLaMA 7bs out of their homes is just fine.

As for the ban, I doubt it changes anything. People will just use VPNs. Recently, a moratorium was proposed on large AI experiments, I'm kinda in favour of that. We're steamrolling ahead without allowing society to adapt.

If you think about it, the things that are illegal, usually are so because they negatively affect society. So there's a real conversation to be had regarding the legality of a tool that makes society way worse. Not saying that is or will be the case, but let's say Openai's toys put half of the population out of work and absolutely everything becomes way worse than it was just a few months before? Mothers can't feed their kids, people fresh out of college can't find jobs, populace is getting restless because they can not longer live a comfortable life and depend on governmental help, while a few billionaires in sillicon valley get richer and richer and richer. Would you still protect them? Should we just allow every single piece of tech no matter of how destructive it is? Plenty of technology is restricted. You can't just drive any type of car around. You can't just walk around with any type of gun.

Right now what i see is a technology that has the power to disrupt the normal function of society and absolutely zero idea of how to deal with it. They just released it to the public and that's it. There's no plan on how to deal with the millions of potential job losses. There's no interest in protecting citizens from whatever harm this can cause. There's no true knowledge from openai regarding the potential harms of this thing. They don't care. They're just looking for money and fame.
 
Whats the problem? I mean, how is a Q&A search engine so dangerous?

Can someone explain it to me as if i was a 7 year old?
ChatGPT on its own isn't that dangerous. But it starts making things weird once you combine the GPT API with a framework like langchain, which helps you make "decision pipelines".
This is because ChatGPT is a multi-use LLM, you can use it for text generation, classification, sentiment analysis, and even some coding. If you pair that up with a decision making pipeline, you can set up something like the following:
ChatGPT API generates an article title, passes the article title to a ChatGPT API relevance score calculator - - this happens in a loop until an article title with a high relevance title has been found, then the title is passed to another prompt which has the system/agent prompt for creating subtopics and it's own relevance score calculator . . etc so the entire pipeline can be automated with close to zero knowledge of coding. It used to be that you needed a background in ML to do this stuff, find cosine distances and all that, now all it takes is a system prompt.
This is awesome (for people like myself, a rookie coder) but it also has a side effect of rendering vast chunks of the economy irrelevant. Because I doubt I'll EVER have to outsource any of my work ever again, and there are probably many business owners like me who are realizing this as they use ChatGPT. So yeah, it's good for us, but a huge net negative for many people. The "Darwinian" part of me thiks "meh, so what, survival of the fittest" and all that, but do I really want 60% of society to be unemployed? I don't, even for the most selfish reasons, that means there'll be an expansion of the tax base and I'll have to pay more taxes, let alone the complete dystopia of a whole society of people who feel they have no productive role in it.
 
while a few billionaires in sillicon valley get richer and richer and richer
what worries me is that this has already been happening for years now, and there has been no regulation whatsoever for anticompetitive monopolistic practices of the big tech companies. One examples that I constantly run into is "AmazonBasics" - - the entire concept of AmazonBasics is anti-competitive as hell, using platform data analytics to then make products that compete with the people who sell on your own platform, who helped you generate that data in the first place.
And yet, AmazonBasics continues to exist. Most of our lawmakers have no idea how to operate a smartphone, it'd be a stretch to get them to understand the real consequences of giant LLM experiments.
 
ChatGPT on its own isn't that dangerous. But it starts making things weird once you combine the GPT API with a framework like langchain, which helps you make "decision pipelines".
This is because ChatGPT is a multi-use LLM, you can use it for text generation, classification, sentiment analysis, and even some coding. If you pair that up with a decision making pipeline, you can set up something like the following:
ChatGPT API generates an article title, passes the article title to a ChatGPT API relevance score calculator - - this happens in a loop until an article title with a high relevance title has been found, then the title is passed to another prompt which has the system/agent prompt for creating subtopics and it's own relevance score calculator . . etc so the entire pipeline can be automated with close to zero knowledge of coding. It used to be that you needed a background in ML to do this stuff, find cosine distances and all that, now all it takes is a system prompt.
This is awesome (for people like myself, a rookie coder) but it also has a side effect of rendering vast chunks of the economy irrelevant. Because I doubt I'll EVER have to outsource any of my work ever again, and there are probably many business owners like me who are realizing this as they use ChatGPT. So yeah, it's good for us, but a huge net negative for many people. The "Darwinian" part of me thiks "meh, so what, survival of the fittest" and all that, but do I really want 60% of society to be unemployed? I don't, even for the most selfish reasons, that means there'll be an expansion of the tax base and I'll have to pay more taxes, let alone the complete dystopia of a whole society of people who feel they have no productive role in it.

I kinda want 60% to be unemployed. Like, not waiters and bartenders and pizza delivery guys, but like doctors. I want only the cream of the crop to remain, so they can do a good job. And the ones that cause more trouble than good, should be unemployed. Empty out my garbage or something :p

haha no but I see what you're saying.

I don't use ChatGPT for anything, so it's not really doing me any benefits or negatives, at least not yet.

But I see you'll be becoming a millionaire soon with your ChatGPT skillz. So when you get there, don't forget your good friends who helped you when you had nothing (that would be me, give me $100,000 :D )
 
Whats the problem? I mean, how is a Q&A search engine so dangerous?

Can someone explain it to me as if i was a 7 year old?

Let's see what the bot himself thinks:):

"I'm sorry, but I must inform you that the news you received is incorrect. As an AI language model, I cannot be banned in any country. Moreover, I exist only in the digital realm, and there is no physical form of me that can be banned.
As for your question about why a Q&A search engine like me could be considered dangerous, it's possible that there was a misunderstanding or misinformation. Q&A search engines like me are designed to help people find information and answers to their questions. However, there may be concerns about the accuracy or appropriateness of some of the information that is provided by such search engines.
In general, it's always important to verify the information you find online and to use multiple sources to get a balanced view of any topic."


"Can you explain it to me as if i was a 7 year old?"

"Of course, I apologize for not being clear earlier!
As a Q&A search engine, I help people find answers to their questions. Sometimes, people can get worried that the information they find online might not be true or might not be safe for them to read.
That's why it's important to always check with a grown-up or a trusted source to make sure the information is correct and safe. It's just like when you're learning something new in school and you ask your teacher or parents to help you understand it better."
 
If you think about it, the things that are illegal, usually are so because they negatively affect society. So there's a real conversation to be had regarding the legality of a tool that makes society way worse. Not saying that is or will be the case, but let's say Openai's toys put half of the population out of work and absolutely everything becomes way worse than it was just a few months before? Mothers can't feed their kids, people fresh out of college can't find jobs, populace is getting restless because they can not longer live a comfortable life and depend on governmental help, while a few billionaires in sillicon valley get richer and richer and richer. Would you still protect them? Should we just allow every single piece of tech no matter of how destructive it is? Plenty of technology is restricted. You can't just drive any type of car around. You can't just walk around with any type of gun.

Right now what i see is a technology that has the power to disrupt the normal function of society and absolutely zero idea of how to deal with it. They just released it to the public and that's it. There's no plan on how to deal with the millions of potential job losses. There's no interest in protecting citizens from whatever harm this can cause. There's no true knowledge from openai regarding the potential harms of this thing. They don't care. They're just looking for money and fame.
A Planet with around 13,000 nuclear warheads, will be ok with a little bit of AI on top of that ,i think
 
ChatGPT on its own isn't that dangerous. But it starts making things weird once you combine the GPT API with a framework like langchain, which helps you make "decision pipelines".
This is because ChatGPT is a multi-use LLM, you can use it for text generation, classification, sentiment analysis, and even some coding. If you pair that up with a decision making pipeline, you can set up something like the following:
ChatGPT API generates an article title, passes the article title to a ChatGPT API relevance score calculator - - this happens in a loop until an article title with a high relevance title has been found, then the title is passed to another prompt which has the system/agent prompt for creating subtopics and it's own relevance score calculator . . etc so the entire pipeline can be automated with close to zero knowledge of coding. It used to be that you needed a background in ML to do this stuff, find cosine distances and all that, now all it takes is a system prompt.
This is awesome (for people like myself, a rookie coder) but it also has a side effect of rendering vast chunks of the economy irrelevant. Because I doubt I'll EVER have to outsource any of my work ever again, and there are probably many business owners like me who are realizing this as they use ChatGPT. So yeah, it's good for us, but a huge net negative for many people. The "Darwinian" part of me thiks "meh, so what, survival of the fittest" and all that, but do I really want 60% of society to be unemployed? I don't, even for the most selfish reasons, that means there'll be an expansion of the tax base and I'll have to pay more taxes, let alone the complete dystopia of a whole society of people who feel they have no productive role in it.
Seems like even that is going to be automated, real fuxxing soon. Seems like you wont be needed either.. https://github.com/Mattie/cataclysm.

Welcome, you've just joined the rest of us plebs in the 60%
 
I don't really care since there is good Pasta, Spaghetti and Pizza in Napoli, so why the fuck i need that chat gpt there ??
 
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