Changing RAM in a computer issue

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So I've decided to move around some ram in one of my computers.

So first I opened and cleaned the computer. How did I clean it? By blowing and blowing of course. I ain't got no fancy leaf blowers and whatnot :D

So then... the computer has 3x16GB Ram 3200 mhz. So I took out one of them, and put in 2x8GB 2400 mhz. I did it correctly, 1+3 and 2+4.

I plugged it in, and when I pressed to turn it on the fan light came on for a second and then off again. Dang...

So now I'm thinking I must have broken it while cleaning it (forever the pessimist) and I may have to throw it away. But I remove both the 8GB ram sticks, and it turns on fine.

So now I'm in BIOS, looking at "Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P)", and it's set at "Profile 1." This one has the "Memory Frequency(MHz)" set to 3200 MHz. If I set it to "Profile 2" then the frequency drops to 2933 MHz. I can also set it to "Disabled," but then it goes up to 3200 MHz. I assume disabled makes it AUTO, which just picks up on the 2 ram sticks that are plugged in now.

So I'll set it to disabled, then shut the computer down, plug in the 2x8GB sticks again, and turn it on again. Fingers crossed.
 
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All right, so I turned it on with 2x16GB chips, and it shows 2933MHz in task manager under "Memory."

This is with "Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P)" being "Disabled."

I shut the fucker down, plugged in the 2x8GB sticks, and turned it on again...

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Yeeeeah. Turned on just fine. Who the man? I the man :D

Okay so now in task manager under memory it says 2400 MHz speed.

So the computer was operating with 48GB ram 3200 MHz speed, and now it operates with 48GB ram 2400 MHz speed. Imma try to run the exact same programs on it, and see if it can handle the same workload...

You guys think I should try to enter BIOS and set the MHZ to 2933 MHz? My logic is, 2 of the sticks are 3200mhz and 2 are 2400mhz, so maybe they can meet in the middle.? :D
 
Okay we're at about 80% of what I use now. So far so good. The computer didn't shut down, restart, catch fire, explode, no problems. And it's working fine just fine.

There are 2 tests here:

1) Get the computer to 100%, all my programs turned on. Then we'll see how it runs. If it runs well, passes the test.

2) Then the more important test is to see how it runs after 5, 10, 15 and 20+ hours into heavy work. Because the ram just gets fuller and fuller and the computer slower and slower as the hours go by. All I need is for it to run reasonably well up to 24 hours, because then the automatic restart kicks in and the ram clears and we start fresh again.

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You know, I would imagine that running 2400mhz is worse than running 3200mhz, and it probably is.

But I seem to vaguely remember reading somewhere that, for example, running 2x8GB ram is better than running 1x16GB ram... or that running 2x16GB ram is better than running 1x32GB ram. Something about how information moves around or some technobabble. And before I was running 3x16GB, and now I run 2x16GB and 2x8GB, so it may be a bit better this way.

And there's also the whole dual-channel or dual-core thing. Like, you don't get it with 3 ram sticks, but you get it with 4 ram sticks, I think. So maybe I didn't have it before but I have it now, and then now it's better. Then again, maybe a change is required in BIOS to enable dual-channel, if the motherboard even supports it.

I could be totally off on this, but if I'm not, then it may all equal out :)
 
Dude, your getting the hang of this "fix it yourself" shit, you'll be putting all the "guys to call" out of business! :D
 
If what you are doing is CPU intensive it will impact performance a bit (making it slower)
I would leave it as it is, messing around with clock speeds might make your pc unstable and leading to a blue screen of death...
 
Panther28 said:
Dude, your getting the hang of this "fix it yourself" shit, you'll be putting all the "guys to call" out of business! :D
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No more call from Windowz supportz? Very bad Sar, very bad.
 
Sardi said:
If what you are doing is CPU intensive it will impact performance a bit (making it slower)
I would leave it as it is, messing around with clock speeds might make your pc unstable and leading to a blue screen of death...
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Yeah, what I'm doing is CPU-intensive. My CPU stays at 95%+ at all times basically. 24/7 baby.

All right I just checked it. All my programs are turned on. My CPU goes between 95-100%, and my RAM is at about 50% now.

But give it 12 hours and my RAM will also be at 95-100%.

So I just played around a little bit, and there's definitely small decrease in performance. The computer is usually "snappier" at first, and then it gets slower as times goes by. But now it's a bit less snappy, and I just turned it on (and I cleaned it, it was super dirty).

Well we'll see how it goes. If it can't handle my programs I'll either switch back or reduce the amount of programs I run.

We'll see how it goes, I'm keeping an eye on it. If it goes well I have another computer which will get the same change...

Panther28 said:
Dude, your getting the hang of this "fix it yourself" shit, you'll be putting all the "guys to call" out of business! :D
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I do all right man. Better every day :)

But it's hard out here for a pimp :D

 
Something which helped me recently: look around on the motherboard for a tiny button that says MEMOK.

I switched some RAM and had some issues. Everything got fixed after I pressed that thing.

I think this button resets the RAM thing in the thing in the board that sets the thing if you know whaddamean
 
Scorpion Ghost said:
So the computer was operating with 48GB ram 3200 MHz speed, and now it operates with 48GB ram 2400 MHz speed. Imma try to run the exact same programs on it, and see if it can handle the same workload...

You guys think I should try to enter BIOS and set the MHZ to 2933 MHz? My logic is, 2 of the sticks are 3200mhz and 2 are 2400mhz, so maybe they can meet in the middle.? :D
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Why on Earth do you need 48GB of RAM? If you're noticing that your computer is starting to lag after opening more and more programmes then you should probably take a look at upgrading your CPU, not adding more RAM.

And in terms of setting the MHZ speed, when you mix the different speeds of RAM your PC will only run at the lowest speed you have - unfortunately you can't magically convert 2400mhz to run at 2933mhz :)
 
bartosimpsonio said:
Something which helped me recently: look around on the motherboard for a tiny button that says MEMOK.

I switched some RAM and had some issues. Everything got fixed after I pressed that thing.

I think this button resets the RAM thing in the thing in the board that sets the thing if you know whaddamean
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that button resets the ram, or auto tunes it so different sticks of ram can run together:)
 
chipsie1102 said:
Why on Earth do you need 48GB of RAM? If you're noticing that your computer is starting to lag after opening more and more programmes then you should probably take a look at upgrading your CPU, not adding more RAM.

And in terms of setting the MHZ speed, when you mix the different speeds of RAM your PC will only run at the lowest speed you have - unfortunately you can't magically convert 2400mhz to run at 2933mhz :)
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Well I'll tell you buddy.

I turn on a computer with 48GB of RAM, and I turn on 53 programs. Immediately my RAM is 50% full. And when I was noob-central I would think that we don't need that much ram, we can do just fine with 36GB right.

But then you let these programs run and do stuff for 20 hours, and then check your ram again. It's not at 50% anymore, now it's at 99%. So now if I had 36GB of ram I could put my head between my legs and kiss my ass goodbye.

In fact, even with 48GB of ram I can only run reasonably well for about 24 hours. That's why I have an automatic restart every 24 hours. After the restart the RAM clears, and we are golden for another 24 hours.

About the MHz speed, yeah, it is what it is I guess :)
 
bartosimpsonio said:
Something which helped me recently: look around on the motherboard for a tiny button that says MEMOK.

I switched some RAM and had some issues. Everything got fixed after I pressed that thing.

I think this button resets the RAM thing in the thing in the board that sets the thing if you know whaddamean
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Actually - at least on this particular motherboard - it either runs or it doesn't depending on the ram I plug in and my BIOS settings.

So when I had it set to run at 3200mhz, and I plugged in RAM that's 2400 MHz, the computer wouldn't even turn on. It would turn on for 1 second and immediately off again.

Then I removed the 2400MHz ram and then it turned on fine.

Then I went in BIOS and set it to automatically determine ram speed, I plugged in the 2400 MHz ram in again, and it turned on. And now it works at 2400 MHz for all 4 sticks that I have plugged in (even though 2 of the sticks are 3200 mhz).
 
Scorpion Ghost said:
Well I'll tell you buddy.

I turn on a computer with 48GB of RAM, and I turn on 53 programs. Immediately my RAM is 50% full. And when I was noob-central I would think that we don't need that much ram, we can do just fine with 36GB right.

But then you let these programs run and do stuff for 20 hours, and then check your ram again. It's not at 50% anymore, now it's at 99%. So now if I had 36GB of ram I could put my head between my legs and kiss my ass goodbye.

In fact, even with 48GB of ram I can only run reasonably well for about 24 hours. That's why I have an automatic restart every 24 hours. After the restart the RAM clears, and we are golden for another 24 hours.

About the MHz speed, yeah, it is what it is I guess :)
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I'm wondering about the 53 programs you have automated.
 
Scorpion Ghost said:
Well I'll tell you buddy.

I turn on a computer with 48GB of RAM, and I turn on 53 programs. Immediately my RAM is 50% full. And when I was noob-central I would think that we don't need that much ram, we can do just fine with 36GB right.

But then you let these programs run and do stuff for 20 hours, and then check your ram again. It's not at 50% anymore, now it's at 99%. So now if I had 36GB of ram I could put my head between my legs and kiss my ass goodbye.

In fact, even with 48GB of ram I can only run reasonably well for about 24 hours. That's why I have an automatic restart every 24 hours. After the restart the RAM clears, and we are golden for another 24 hours.

About the MHz speed, yeah, it is what it is I guess :)
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Ah, very interesting :)

Obviously I don't know what the programs are doing so this might be useful or it might be stupid, but: I wonder if when all these programs are running their automated tasks, perhaps they are suffering from memory leaks which is why your RAM usage is increasing so much after time? Might be something worth investigating if you haven't already, could save you some money on having to invest in more RAM and allow the automated tasks to run faster! :)
 
chipsie1102 said:
Ah, very interesting :)

Obviously I don't know what the programs are doing so this might be useful or it might be stupid, but: I wonder if when all these programs are running their automated tasks, perhaps they are suffering from memory leaks which is why your RAM usage is increasing so much after time? Might be something worth investigating if you haven't already, could save you some money on having to invest in more RAM and allow the automated tasks to run faster! :)
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Well, maybe. I don't know. How would I know if they are suffering from memory leaks? And if I knew they were, how would I fix it? I don't know.

I'm really a noob over here. I'm just trying to build a house by putting a brick on top of another brick and super-gluing them together. So far so good :D
 
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