[Case Study] Ubot Studio !

Gary Becks said:
Also, do you think this may have to do with the fact that you use one more than the other? I only ask because I can do shit in python almost as fast (if not faster) than I can do in any language - that doesn't mean python is actually better/easier than anything else , just means I am more at home with it.
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Yes, perhaps that is the reason why I find Zenno easier, because I have spent more time with it.

Perhaps if I spend the same amount of time with Ubot I will find it just as easy. But at this point, I find the bot creation is zenno much more logical then ubot. Maybe that's just me though.
 
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Gary Becks said:
Thanks!

Well it seems like I have run into a snag already. In the older versions of Ubot there was an include bot command, which allowed you to include a .ubot source file from a url.

Looks like this feature has been removed, I did a quick search and it looks like they say they are working on adding support for libraries, but what do users do about creating larger bots in the meantime ?

@ Seth , any comments on this? I mean are there any problems with compiling really large bots that you know of as of now?

For the time being I will just plug along with the bot and see how things go.

Regards..
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Libraries are coming, just not 100% sure when. This is a big deal to me as well, it is just too confusing and visually overwhelming to work on large multiple piece bots in ubot as it is.
 
If you get stuck Gary, hit me up on Skype I can probably get you out of it. There are a few people set on a making a SENuke clone w/ Ubot. I really don't see it happening anytime soon.
 
Do I always need the ZennoPoster application running to run the bots I create?

Is there a built in browser for me to see each steps?

I find Zenno confusing.
 
ChoosenOne said:
Do I always need the ZennoPoster application running to run the bots I create?

Is there a built in browser for me to see each steps?

I find Zenno confusing.
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Yes, think of it like an excel document. You can save the excel file, but you still need excel to run it. That's the big difference with Ubot, you can create stand alone EXE's. Zenno still does a lot more than Ubot outside of that. If they release the ability to do exe's (and do it well) they could do some serious damage to the Ubot marketshare.
 
BlackSEOWizard said:
If that is the case I'd give it a try, I'm in the same boat as Gary. Ubot is extremely buggy and problemsome, it's missing a lot of key things it really needs but it has come a long way in the last 3-4 months (still lots more to go) and there are some things you can do in Ubot so much faster than anything else.
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I think they will implement .exe compilation but only for personal use and not re-selling.
 
BlackSEOWizard said:
If you get stuck Gary, hit me up on Skype I can probably get you out of it. There are a few people set on a making a SENuke clone w/ Ubot. I really don't see it happening anytime soon.
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Thanks.

I'm definitely not looking to make an Senuke clone, it can't be done in Ubot. If I were I'd do it in Delphi, just looking to make a simple Web 2.0 Submitter for the less fortunate to use.
 
Got the UI done last night, sifted through the list of Web 2.0 Sites, got a small bit of the licensing taken care of.

Looks like I should really be able to plug through this bot really fast , just need to get the whole libraries issue figured out.

Regards.
 
Gary Becks said:
Got the UI done last night, sifted through the list of Web 2.0 Sites, got a small bit of the licensing taken care of.

Looks like I should really be able to plug through this bot really fast , just need to get the whole libraries issue figured out.

Regards.
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Can you post a pic of the UI, that's one of my biggest gripes about Ubot, it is very difficult to do anything UI intensive. Really need to be able to get rid of the default buttons, browser, and the address bar and the UI HTML node needs a better editor.
 
Gary Becks said:
The define function is equal to the sub command in Ubot 3.

Incluse was something similar to a Dll , something that there is no replacement for in Ubot 4 from what I can see so far.
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Ah shit you are right - got that one ass about face!
 
BlackSEOWizard said:
Can you post a pic of the UI, that's one of my biggest gripes about Ubot, it is very difficult to do anything UI intensive. Really need to be able to get rid of the default buttons, browser, and the address bar and the UI HTML node needs a better editor.
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Still needs a bit of sprusing up and I need to do all of the check boxes to select the sites but it's an Ok mockup to get the bot started for now.
 
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I don't edit the node. I just do the UI in whatever HTML editor I happen to be using at the time, then paste it into the UI html panel.

If a change needs to be made I totally delete the previous node and replace it with a new one.

I have to admit, UI's is not one of Ubot's strong suites. The more I work on this bot ( and it's only been 2 days ) the more I miss Delphi .. :(
 
Gary Becks said:
I don't edit the node. I just do the UI in whatever HTML editor I happen to be using at the time, then paste it into the UI html panel.

If a change needs to be made I totally delete the previous node and replace it with a new one.

I have to admit, UI's is not one of Ubot's strong suites. The more I work on this bot ( and it's only been 2 days ) the more I miss Delphi .. :(
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I do something similar, but I like to change it often, so I find myself cut/pasting 100 times. End up running a separate file that I save and just update it there.

I haven't used Delphi in ages, I thought it wasn't supported anymore. There is still new controls and components being made for it?
 
BlackSEOWizard said:
I do something similar, but I like to change it often, so I find myself cut/pasting 100 times. End up running a separate file that I save and just update it there.

I haven't used Delphi in ages, I thought it wasn't supported anymore. There is still new controls and components being made for it?
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I think it's being developed more now than it ever has been to be honest.

The VCL is constantly getting new components made by both Embarcadero and 3rd party vendors. Not to mention the fact that they have made it cross platform now.
 
Gary Becks said:
I think it's being developed more now than it ever has been to be honest.

The VCL is constantly getting new components made by both Embarcadero and 3rd party vendors. Not to mention the fact that they have made it cross platform now.
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What you use for an IDE?
 
Delphi is the IDE , Object Pascal ( or Delphi Pascal ) is the underlying language.

You can also use Lazarus which uses Free Pascal , similar but not the same.
 
Gary Becks said:
Delphi is the IDE , Object Pascal ( or Delphi Pascal ) is the underlying language.

You can also use Lazarus which uses Free Pascal , similar but not the same.
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yeah, I know, I don't like Object Pascal, but would reconsider if I could easily do cross platform. I was looking at the Delphi XE2, looks awesome if it is supported and runs well. I'd give it another go especially now that I am building a lot of tools.
 
BlackSEOWizard said:
yeah, I know, I don't like Object Pascal, but would reconsider if I could easily do cross platform. I was looking at the Delphi XE2, looks awesome if it is supported and runs well. I'd give it another go especially now that I am building a lot of tools.
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Ha, It's an acquired taste I guess.

I personally cant stand any language that uses {brackets} , so much so that I do anything in my power to stay away from them. Hence me using Delphi instead of C# , Coffeescript instead of Javascript, the only language that it seems like there's no way of getting around is php which it looks like I may have to learn at some point as it's so widely used. Other than that I'd use Python any day over it.
 
Gary Becks said:
Ha, It's an acquired taste I guess.

I personally cant stand any language that uses {brackets} , so much so that I do anything in my power to stay away from them. Hence me using Delphi instead of C# , Coffeescript instead of Javascript, the only language that it seems like there's no way of getting around is php which it looks like I may have to learn at some point as it's so widely used. Other than that I'd use Python any day over it.
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I don't mind strongly typed languages like C# and so on. I forget why I hated Object Pascal (was ages ago when I played around with Delphi) but I just remember I hated the syntax.
 
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