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Can't rank for 3 years =(

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by dracony2, Sep 26, 2010.

  1. dracony2

    dracony2 Regular Member

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    Guys, its official. i suck at seo =(
    I make money selling spam tools, etc. but my sites never get off =(
    i have this white hat site form Emo kids, and with my coding its the best there is. i have like 500 daily visitors. i have many returning visitors, and i'm on 1 page under a few keywords. but i cant rank page 1 under "emo" =(
    I'm on pages 5+
    The sites that outrank me suck as hell =( i have no idea what to do

    I have this other site, like 33 autoblogs on subdomains. the traffic comes from my twitter bots, and google. I get only 200 search engine entries per day, and 200 referral trafic per day =(

    Also i have a wallpaper site, that sucks, cause it has really little vistors

    And i have autoblogging amazon site. That has only 20 searches per day, but manages to get me sales (little though, like 5 sales a month) =(


    I own, scrapebox,xrumer, am great at any kind of scripting.
    Where am i going wrong?

    Im seriousy desperate. i cant get my earnings higher than like 80 euro per month
     
  2. ericsson

    ericsson Elite Member Premium Member

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    Approx 40 800 000 results (0,17 sekunder)

    GoodLuck ;)
     
  3. dracony2

    dracony2 Regular Member

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    well i am on page 1 under emo forum and emo chat. so i guess i could rank better for emo.

    Also, whats the quickest way to increase PR? my sites have 0 pr each, though they do have backlinks (deeplinked even)
    the emo sites has pr 2 =(
     
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    Venture Regular Member

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    PM'd ya.
     
  5. meaculpa

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    Dude, "emo" is just a very difficult keyword. Did you check how old the competing sites are? Maybe you should try to just keep adding content and backlinks. The more the merrier imho. Hope you get around to ranking on page one... PM me if you have q's :)
     
  6. dracony2

    dracony2 Regular Member

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    just checked with google, and yahoo. yahoo site explorer doesnt seem to notice all my backlinks
    It shows 500. and i know i have 30k minimum
    I have aggreagted them into rsses, submitted and pinged.
    What else can i try)?
     
  7. volund

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    While it does look fairly tough you have xrummer and scrapebox so you should be able to build a serious amount of links.

    How does your link profile look compared to the sites on the first page?
    Number of links?
    Number of links with the anchor text "emo"
    Number of links coming from pages with actual PR?
    Number of links coming from pages with actual PR with the anchor text 'emo"?
    How old are your links compared to those sites on the first page?
    How long have you been building your links? Did you just start with xrumer or have you been at it for 3 years?

    I looked at a couple of the sites and the content did not look like anything special so if yours is not up to par that should be an easy fix.

    Make sure you have good targeted content.
    Make sure you organize your tags properly.

    Find a list of the top 20 emo terms and rank for them first. Setup some additional pages for them to rank. First off they will be easier so you can start getting traffic and bringing in money while you work on emo. second they will help support your attack on your main target.


    OK have you even done any keyword research?? I did a quick check and it does not even look like anyone is searching for "emo" by itself. Seriously dude do some research and hit all those other two and three word terms, the competition looks pretty weak for most of them and the traffic numbers are not that bad.
     
  8. moserw

    moserw Junior Member

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    Honestly 3 years is enough time to rank for anything... unless of course you have not done any link building at all!

    Fact is you can rank for anything... provided you want to spend the time, money and effort on it. And backlinks are all that matter... so if you have not started yet but want to badly rank for your choice of keyword then start building backlinks. It might take a year but you will get there.

    Also, make sure your onpage SEO is good.

    If you need specific tips/pointers then ask and I'll reply here.
     
  9. incognito876

    incognito876 Regular Member

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    You say your amazon site is getting 5 sales a month...that's not bad going at all.

    Why don't you just make 500 more based on what you did with the first one? If its an autoblog, it shouldn't be too hard to rinse and repeat.
     
  10. sidaz

    sidaz Regular Member

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    don't waste your time and rank keyword P0rn
     
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    vinsarea1103 Junior Member

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    oh my my...
     
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    aznxmtg Regular Member

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    If I had 3 years with your software, I can rank 3 sites on page 1 already. You must be doing it wrong.
     
  13. Seeka

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    Same here, I have sveral blogs but none of them are even near the page 1 :(

    And the keywords aren't that competive at all
     
  14. dracony2

    dracony2 Regular Member

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    well, when i said 3 years i didnt mean 3 years of active seo.
    The domain is 3-4 years old. but i didnt have much idea on how to seo back then)
    I had xrumer for some time, but i was kinda scared to use it on my white hat site. Anyway you are right about me having to make more auto blogs.
    especially since now i have a really cute admin panel for it))
    Never give up)
     
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    Ask me how to get Internet Business Promoter for free. I used it to get on the first page of google in 2 weeks!