Can we stop with the AI translations?

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This is just a rant post but I believe it could help the forum look a bit less like AI spam. There are a lot of users on here that are not native English speakers, and that's absolutely fine. A lot of people write in their native tongue and feed it to AI chat bots for translations. That's where I propose we go back to translating with Google Translate or any other service. It can't be faster to fire up AI and get the translations rather than just going to Google, can it?

My concerns is that all the AI translated posts, no matter how original the input is, just makes the post read like AI spam. I miss the days of translations with slightly poor grammar, at least it felt genuine and real. I can't distinguish between AI spammers and someone just using AI to translate their native language.

Anyone else feel this way? Feel free to educate me on how much better AI is for translations and why you use it.
 
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i can understand that but the world in evolving and AI is the main part of it so i think we just have to be use to with it
 
Deepseek says: You're right—the sheer volume of AI-polished posts is draining the authenticity from online forums. What gets lost is the human fingerprint: those slightly off translations from services like Google Translate had a genuine, often endearing quality that signaled a real person trying to communicate. Now, whether it's a non-native speaker seeking clarity or a spammer generating bulk content, the output carries the same bland, homogenized tone of the large language model itself. It's not just about speed or accuracy—it's about how that efficiency is flattening the unique texture of human conversation.

i can ask more if u want ;)
 
James312 said:
i can understand that but the world in evolving and AI is the main part of it so i think we just have to be use to with it
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Well I understand technology is evolving, I'm using AI as well. But is it really faster to use AI for translations?

Carnaged said:
Deepseek says: You're right—the sheer volume of AI-polished posts is draining the authenticity from online forums. What gets lost is the human fingerprint: those slightly off translations from services like Google Translate had a genuine, often endearing quality that signaled a real person trying to communicate. Now, whether it's a non-native speaker seeking clarity or a spammer generating bulk content, the output carries the same bland, homogenized tone of the large language model itself. It's not just about speed or accuracy—it's about how that efficiency is flattening the unique texture of human conversation.

i can ask more if u want ;)
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See, this is what I'm talking about. You didn't type this in Bulgarian (just as an example) and asked Deepseek to translate it, you just copied my post and fed it to the AI, this is AI slop and considered spam that does not add value (this is bannable in some cases). I'm talking about people who write in their own language and use the AI to translate, there's a big difference between AI slop and AI translations, but you can't always distinguish between the two.

What I'm saying is, people who are not fluent in English actually hurt themselves by using AI translations, as most people (I really hope) see AI posts as spam. This may result in reports, most likely sometimes warnings and banned accounts, and people not taking them seriously.
 
Carolus Rex said:
This is just a rant post but I believe it could help the forum look a bit less like AI spam. There are a lot of users on here that are not native English speakers, and that's absolutely fine. A lot of people write in their native tongue and feed it to AI chat bots for translations. That's where I propose we go back to translating with Google Translate or any other service. It can't be faster to fire up AI and get the translations rather than just going to Google, can it?

My concerns is that all the AI translated posts, no matter how original the input is, just makes the post read like AI spam. I miss the days of translations with slightly poor grammar, at least it felt genuine and real. I can't distinguish between AI spammers and someone just using AI to translate their native language.

Anyone else feel this way? Feel free to educate me on how much better AI is for translations and why you use it.
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Yes, Ill take typos over AI lazyness all day.

The issue is not even the AI translations, its the finding a WTB HAF post and then prompting an AI with that and then pasting the reply here, its so transparent and looks BS, much worse than attention seeking fonts and such, just translate the WTB or whatever post into your language, then reply into your lang and then have AI translate it.

I am terrible at formatting forum tables and bullet point lists etc, so I just do them on an external sheet or AI and drop them here.

People should not be afraid of a typo here and there, I certainyl am not.
 
Seeing a lot of these lately as well, not sure if it's worth reporting
 
Yoram said:
Seeing a lot of these lately as well, not sure if it's worth reporting
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its not. i tried to report, even wrote a post about it, admins shut it down saying its allowed.
 
Carolus Rex said:
I can't distinguish between AI spammers and someone just using AI to translate their native language.
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I guess it can be hard to tell but I guess if you thought the translated opinion was just as unoriginal and unhelpful as a person intentionally just making a BS reply on here for whatever reason, then I guess it's possible they were both unhelpful. Or maybe they were just unhelpful to you in particular. I guess since it's a grey area, it may be more about the intent and whether someone is obviously replying without contributing much, and having a pattern of doing that, AI or not (such as to obviously try and reach certain metrics with no other reason, to do things like scam someone or harass someone, offer a fraud service, etc.) rather than whether or not some specific individuals found certain replies helpful or not helpful.
 
geraldnorthen said:
I guess it can be hard to tell but I guess if you thought the translated opinion was just as unoriginal and unhelpful as a person intentionally just making a BS reply on here for whatever reason, then I guess it's possible they were both unhelpful. Or maybe they were just unhelpful to you in particular. I guess since it's a grey area, it may be more about the intent and whether someone is obviously replying without contributing much, and having a pattern of doing that, AI or not (such as to obviously try and reach certain metrics with no other reason, to do things like scam someone or harass someone, offer a fraud service, etc.) rather than whether or not some specific individuals found certain replies helpful or not helpful.
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Of course, I appreciate discussions and if someone uses AI to translate it's possible to have a conversation with them. But I'm one of these people that click back as soon as I see AI on social media, blogs, videos, images etc. I'm more concerned that the majority of the forum will be filled with AI looking responses (slop or translations doesn't really matter), I'm afraid the perceived quality of the forum will become even lower. As I mentioned in the first post, this was more of a rant, and a wish to go back to simpler translation tools.

I love BHW and I want it to prosper.
 
So, this is where we are with AI right now.

AI threads/posts ARE allowed as long as they offer value. So if someone uses a LLM to translate their response, that's fine. If they use it to polish off an article, that's fine. It's even OK if they build their thread/post and it comes out factually correct. However, we have been cracking down on regurgitated AI slop that offers no value to the conversation. If you see it, report it.

And I can't talk more about it since it's a "next year" project, but we are working on a way to be able to catch more of this ourselves. Right now we're testing a few things to see what works for us and then we'll start forming a plan.

Regardless, know we are working on it and reports help a lot.
 
So the point of this thread is the AI translations are too good and OP wanted something a bit dumber so it looks human.

Just tell the AI to translate with a slang!! :p
 
PetraAnn said:
So, this is where we are with AI right now.

AI threads/posts ARE allowed as long as they offer value. So if someone uses a LLM to translate their response, that's fine. If they use it to polish off an article, that's fine. It's even OK if they build their thread/post and it comes out factually correct. However, we have been cracking down on regurgitated AI slop that offers no value to the conversation. If you see it, report it.

And I can't talk more about it since it's a "next year" project, but we are working on a way to be able to catch more of this ourselves. Right now we're testing a few things to see what works for us and then we'll start forming a plan.

Regardless, know we are working on it and reports help a lot.
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Thank you for this answer. I'm in no way complaining on the staff and how you handle AI content, I hope that's clear. It was more a suggestion to the users on how we can improve the forum together.

Good to know you are working on and testing different ways to crack down on AI content that does not provide value. Keep up the good work.

bartosimpsonio said:
So the point of this thread is the AI translations are too good and OP wanted something a bit dumber so it looks human.

Just tell the AI to translate with a slang!! :p
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Haha that might actually work!
 
i dont think banning or discouraging AI translations fixes anything. encouraging people to proofread, personalize, and not rely on one click outputs would help way more. i get your point tho, its annoying already, sometimes you'd do a double take if you'll reply to a post that you think is ai-translated/generated
 
I totally agree with you!
Even my english is not good at all but i feel like ı am person when i use my own knowladge. When I saw people who use AI I feel like i am artificial garbage like I am full of emptyness
 
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