Can we get a subject stopped?

Every other day I see posts on here including today about: should we xrumer our competitors and blah blah blah, personally I think it is a stupid question to ask and if you can't be bothered to work to beat your competitors, then you are in the wrong line of work. So my suggestion is this can we put up a rule to stop people asking this question or something similar, I think it is a dirty tactic, even to the point it may as well be classed as hacking someone's site.

Anyway that is my suggestion do with it as you will and thanks for reading.

Agreed. And might as well get rid of all those lame "how can I bump my competitor off google" "someone is saying lies about my site, how can I take them down in the search engines" and the classic "help me flag this ad"

Whenever I see a post with the title "Will This Get Me Banned" I always respond mentally YES! If you have to ask then deep down you know the answer.

I think the moderators already have enough to do than to add more censorship to the site. If you don't like the subject of a thread then just ignore it and move on. Not sure how hard that is to do.

i suggested this like 2 years ago. it has nothing to do with censorship, this board isn't about hurting or sabotaging other people's work.

hotwicked said:

I think the moderators already have enough to do than to add more censorship to the site. If you don't like the subject of a thread then just ignore it and move on. Not sure how hard that is to do.

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It's not about how much work the moderators do, If they don't want to have to delete the threads then I will do it, as you can see I am moderator in training, so I wouldn't mind keep an eye out an deleting the threads, it's about people who work hard and then have some idiot come on and say shall I use dirty tactics to wipe this competitor out. We are black hat yes but there are limits to what you do, you use black hat to get your site to number 1 or whatever not to wipe out someone who has took the time and worked hard day after day to get to were they want to be, how would you like it if I found your niche and then decided I would use any amounts of dirty tactics to destroy your site.
It's dirty and not what business or blackhat is all about..

Thanks

It's only going to hurt others if people help that person. A simple "we don't support that kind of thing here" would work just as quickly and enough times perhaps people will get the hint. However, if no one sees any threads on the subject they might think it's okay to ask.

The only threads I think that should not be allowed are spam threads. Other than that, to me and my personal opinion, it's censorship. If the threads are potentially illegal then the thread should be addressed as such and the OP told it's illegal or not allowed. Then perhaps close the thread.

Again, just my opinion. Don't beat me for it.

That would be a very dificult rule of censorship to actually try to enforce.... as it is open to so many differing opinions relating to Legal, illegal, moral and immoral.

For exmaple, there is nothing illegal about 'xrumering' someones site. Yet it is acceptable to discuss methods of Iframeing CPA's and the likes to defraud Affiliate networks!! BHW already walks a thin line in many aspects of content, from allowing the posting of links for Licenced software/ebooks, to posting certain 'morally questionable' and downright illegal methods of making money.

At what point does a Thread cross line line? What might be acceptable to you might not to me and vise versa. With one moderator saying 'Thats ok' and another saying 'No Way!'

Some people fight fair others fight dirty!

So as you can well guess I am 'sitting on the fence' on this one!

godmonkee said:

It's not about how much work the moderators do, If they don't want to have to delete the threads then I will do it, as you can see I am moderator in training, so I wouldn't mind keep an eye out an deleting the threads, it's about people who work hard and then have some idiot come on and say shall I use dirty tactics to wipe this competitor out. We are black hat yes but there are limits to what you do, you use black hat to get your site to number 1 or whatever not to wipe out someone who has took the time and worked hard day after day to get to were they want to be, how would you like it if I found your niche and then decided I would use any amounts of dirty tactics to destroy your site.
It's dirty and not what business or blackhat is all about..

Thanks

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Whilst, on a personal level I agree with you that the intention behind those kind of tactics is pretty low and it's not something I would do myself, some people do consider this 'method', 'blackhat'. Perhaps it's better for people who are that way inclined (and those inclined to respond to such posts) to reveal themselves - networking can be an important part of this business.


Blackhatworld's primary interest is business. Unless members are doing something that will cause the business direct detriment, there is no business reason to censor those kind of posts.


Thing is, I see a lot on here that, on a moral and/or personal level, I don't agree with. Sometimes, I am downright astonished. Likewise I'm sure there are some business practices I undertake that people would object to. I just take what I need from this site, ignore the rest and keep doing my thing. As long as people title their threads appropriately, it shouldn't be a problem.


I'm aware of the nature of this site (and forums in general), and I know I'm going to come across things I don't agree with, or that annoy me, or that I find stupid, etc. But I choose to come here, and unless it's productive to do so, there's no point me getting caught up in it. I just accept it, and ignore what is not productive. But, even those kind of threads can be an education. When I have read them, it gets the brain thinking and I've developed some non-malicious ideas from them.


Also, if you start playing the moral-censorship card when it comes to SEO and IM, where does it stop? There is always going to be a group of people that disagree with the various tactics we all use. As I said earlier, it's better to have the more maliciously inclined people out in the open.

Choronzon said:

Whenever I see a post with the title "Will This Get Me Banned" I always respond mentally YES! If you have to ask then deep down you know the answer.

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TOTALLY agree with this! As I have learned throughout time of study with human psychology one of the things you learn over and over and over again is that people NEVER need advice and generally the majority of the time people ask for advice it is because they ALREADY know the answer they just want approval of others to lessen the mental burden.