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Can vpn total hide the ips?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by webb365, Jul 24, 2009.

  1. webb365

    webb365 Newbie

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    Hi, I got banned by a website, then I order a VPN (to change the IP address) and switch a new ethernet card (to change the MAC address), and use a total different informations for registration. But I still got banned again by the website. I heard that some website can check user original IP by java, so how I can avoid banned again? thanks.
     
  2. bluerickshaw

    bluerickshaw Junior Member

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    maybe its what you're doing that is the reason for the ban?
     
  3. homenet

    homenet Power Member

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    Firstly, clear your cookies, thats probably what you got you rebanned. Secondly you dont need to use a new ethernet card, your MAC address is NOT visible outside of your LAN. Thirdly maybe like bluerick says its what your doing thats getting you banned again?
     
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    bluerickshaw Junior Member

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    if he has cable (i dont know if he does) wont the mac be visible outside? Assuming he plugs straight from his pc into the cable socket.
     
  5. webb365

    webb365 Newbie

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    I switch to whole new google chrome browser, can it avoid cookie problem? And is there some website can check user original IP by java or other technology?
     
  6. mackay22

    mackay22 Regular Member

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    You need to be sure that the VPN is setup for High Anonymity

    I have not too much experience with VPN but I know it is setup slightly similar to Proxy as regards User agent strings, Hostnames etc,


    So if it where a Proxy and not a VPN, it could give you away by any one of these -

    Passing Both IPS - this means someone can see BOTH the proxy IP and Your IP

    Announcing itself - basically in the User Agent String passed in the HTTP Headers it will announce itself as being a proxy

    Reverse IP or Hostname Lookup - Sometimes a misconfiguration on the Server will lead to a Reverse Lookup failure, or give some or other kind of dodgy reply that raises flags


    As far as I am aware, although they are two different things, a VPN could be setup in such a way that at least the last 2 of those problems I mentioned could be an issue.


    What I would do if I where you is check yourself, use one of the more in-depth "whatismyip" sites that tells you IP, Hostname, Useragent and more, and see if anything looks dodgy.
     
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  7. kingbrend

    kingbrend Regular Member Premium Member

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    It depends of the VPN service you are using is crap or not..

    Blacklogic is a pretty good service, check them out.

    Which website is this? Is it a major one?
     
  8. taironbc

    taironbc BANNED BANNED

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    maybe you forget the cookies. yes with java can detect the ip. use an vpn or a socks5 over proxifier an shut java down clear the cookies and it should work.
     
  9. DFunny

    DFunny Regular Member

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    So what website were you being a bastard on and what got you banned? We need to know assist you. ;) Seriously though, I'm pretty confident that your MAC address isn't visible outside your network.

    Do you run a somewhat distinct OS and browser and a high resolution? If so they might be getting you on your user agent info. Firefox has a badass user agent info switcher addon, its call "user agent switcher" (no shit right?).. That may help.

    Do you live in a weird area like Sheyboygan, Wisconsin and use a tier 3 ISP?? Go to whatismyip(dot)com and check out your user agent info and do an IP whois. As far as I know this all of the info that is available.

    Hope this helps! But dude you gotta tell me what website you're getting banned from.. I have one in mind but I don't wanna say...
     
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  10. webb365

    webb365 Newbie

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    It's etsy dot com, I used to have several account on it but now they closed all my accounts.

    I purchased strongVPN basic and used chrome but still got banned for my new account.. I think using chrome can have a total different user agent info...
     
  11. zorba

    zorba Newbie

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    Changing IP via VPN or proxy or just getting a new one from your cable modem takes care of IP.

    MAC address is totally irrelevant for web sites. The only things that can see your MAC are things on your LAN, or running an actual app from the company (e.g. the AdWords desktop tool will send your MAC, for instance.)

    User agent and resolution are red herrings; if they banned by those, they'd get tons of false positives. Likewise with local IP (which Java gives away) -- practically everybody would be 192.168.0.x

    Most likely ways you got detected:
    1.) Umm... doesn't listing on Etsy have a fee? If so, did the credit card or payment account you used have the same name or billing address as the banned account? If so, there's your dead giveaway.
    2.) Cookies. Delete them. All of them, not just the ones for this site -- they could easily embed another site they own and verify those cookies.
    3.) Flash local objects. Go to http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager.html and delete your Flash local objects (also called "Flash cookies")
    4.) Doing something with affiliate marketing on the site? They may follow links on postings, and have banned your destination URL.
     
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  12. aroman07

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    Clear your cookies and it should work. The javascript ip detection is not very used these days.
     
  13. datak

    datak Newbie

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    It can be :
    1)IP .. then use vpn or wahtever (tor, proxy, etc). IF YOU VPN is crap , (go to wikipedia and READ, threre are more than 1 type of VPN), then your DNS requests goes ON CLEAR, and can be cheated (JS, and a bunch more triks avaliable)... Then , you can use something to re-direct your DNS requests.... I use a python script; you can get it at darkc0de.com or google you can use proxify+tsocks or something like that...
    2)MAC (I doubt it, really) , then use SMAC in Win, macchanger in linux.
    3)Cookies (most probable,sic); just clear your cookies or use another browser.-.. if you use firefox, just install "private browsing" plugin ; in latests FF you don. t need to, is already installed-; just turn it on.
    4)You have some backdoor installed.

    EDITED: Most of the times, even if you use socks, etc; to be REALLY ANONYMOUS, you have to deactivate Java, flash, etc.. You can instalñl NoScript extension for firefox....

    Only way 2B l331 is READING, READING and more READINg...
     
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