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Can someone PLEASE explain Stealth PayPal Accounts?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by toughtrasher, Jun 8, 2012.

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  1. toughtrasher

    toughtrasher Senior Member

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    I'm very interested in buying a stealth account for PayPal since my other one was limited (I used my underage name..)
    I made a new one, unfortunately with the same IP.. but it hasn't been limited.

    I think I should buy a new one, make it a stealth account, but I have no idea what they are.
    I googled it, and found a bunch of BHW and forum threads talking about it, but still have no idea what it is.
    I need 1) what it is? 2) where to buy? 3) will I get limited? 4) pros and cons?

    Thanks a lot BHW. +rep and thanks will be given if needed. :)
     
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    toughtrasher Senior Member

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    Friendly bump :)
     
  3. toughtrasher

    toughtrasher Senior Member

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    Haha, damn no one wants to help a bro out..
     
  4. G-S-T

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    seriously... the clue is in the name, stealth paypal accounts are supposed to be untraceable. but your going to have to withdraw the money to a bank, so then you need a stealth bank account and so on. For all the trouble its worth and potential legal issues concerning fraud, your better off either not scamming people or finding a legit way to make money.
     
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  5. Elmohill

    Elmohill BANNED BANNED

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    As GST said, just not worth it.
     
  6. silentthunder

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    You might look into paypal alternatives. There are many threads on them. Read them and make an intelligent choice. Some paypal alternatives, like 2Checkout.com, and others, accept paypal payments but they all have positives and negatives.
     
  7. toughtrasher

    toughtrasher Senior Member

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    I won't be withdrawing the money to a bank since I'm still underage.
    I just want to use PayPal as a gateway for earning money, storing the money in the account for a bit, then spend that money. I don't see how a stealth account will be scamming someone..

    Thanks for the response, but I prefer PayPal because a lot of services only accept PayPal. I don't want to be left out on those services just because I'm using an alternative.
     
  8. CyberknightTully

    CyberknightTully Junior Member Premium Member

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    A "Stealth" PayPal account is an account which is verified with someone else's info, or account which cannot be verified, an account built up from entirely whole cloth, that is, bogus information, which account will end up costing you whatever money is in it when it gets slapped and it WILL eventually be slapped. A "Stealth" PP account will eventually cause you to lose whatever funds are being held by PP. Sooner or later any and ALL "Stealth" PP accounts will be called to question by PP and you will not be able to verify, so how in the fuck are you going to withdraw large amounts from PP without a bank account or a PP debit card?

    Oops! You can't!

    At the end of 180 days of holding your funds PP MIGHT cut a check or allow you to transfer to a bank account but you don't have one linked to the "Stealth" account. It is at this point that you need to go to the drugstore and get some Vaseline or KY Jelly as you are going to get fucked. The limit is $500 per month, period. Check the PP TOS. If you have more than $500 in your "Stealth" PP account in any given month full verification will be required and since you can't fully verify, how are you going to get the money out? You have no PP ATM card, no bank account to which you have access and you are fucked.

    I don't know about you but I like getting paid, keeping my money and I get paid through fully verified PP, a fully verified merchant account and any number of other payment methods. If I don't know you and you are not fully verified not only by PP but by me personally, I do not accept payment through either PP or the merchant account and we then go to wire transfers and other methods of payment which are irreversible. Of course you could buy multiple "Stealth" accounts and play the proxy game but you will eventually fuck up, get caught and there you go! Fucked again!

    "Stealth" PP accounts are really, really good for the sellers but very, very bad for the buyers if the buyers are talking serious coin, that is, anything over $500USD per month per account.

    As someone who has run well over $500K USD through PP I have some vague idea of what I'm writing about but you do what you want.

    Please note everyone that I AM trying to help this guy and am NOT merely TROLLING! I'm just tired of seeing people FUCKED with "Stealth" PP accounts. My comments are based on experience with PP for ten years or so, since PP bought Billpoint anyway. Billpoint was better!
     
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  9. Chrishiella

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    i dont think so buying someone else account might be a good option , cause the ip will be dffrent.as long as you can get the same ip or same country (proxy,vpn ) it's fine i think,
     
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    Don't listen to these guys, they clearly don't know about stealth PP accounts. I just pulled 15k through a stealth paypal account in 5 days, and close to 20k in 7 days with my last stealth pp account. I would never will give paypal my legit information ever (except for a buyers account), they are a greedy messed up company and will take your money at any random chance they get. If you want to know how to make a stealth paypal hit me though a private message and I will give you my system, even if you are a minor it should be easy for you to do. Matter of fact I'm going to make 10 fully verified stealth paypal accounts today! Also google "aspkin forum" read up over there and you will get many of the answers you need about eGay and PissPal.
     
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  11. Caesar7

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    Stealth PayPal accounts are the only option for many who still want to accept PayPal but was suspended. And trust me being suspended does not always come from some bad deal. You can be the victim and still loose your PayPal account. Remember though that after $20,000 you would need another stealth account since that is all the processing you can do with one account in a 4 quarter business year.

    Another misconception is stealth accounts come from a real person. Which in fact is false since stealth accounts are created with new fresh identities. This way they do not infringe on other peoples identity. They work but one does have to be careful and learn the culture of PayPal.

    I see some in this thread saying you need a vpn and that is not good. Do not use a vpn because they can be blacklisted and cause
    problems. Instead have a dedicated proxy or vps is the best option. Once you learn this it is not as complicated as it sounds :)
     
  12. Brovashift

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    Hi Caesar7,

    I was just reading through this thread re: PP stealth accounts and after reading your post am hoping you can help me clear some confusion i have...
    I get that a stealth PP account is set up using fake information, and can devise a method for obtaining basic verification.. however, what I am having trouble trying to work out is "how is a stealth bank account created", as surely one is needed for the small payment that PP make when they first verify a new account?

    I have also read that the bank account information that PP see is limited to just account numbers, and not personal information i.e. name, address etc. is known, meaning that the use of fake names and address for PP (and eBay) is very possible... The thing is though; if you are doing anything that would cause some authority to investigate, then surely regardless of the fake name and addresses, once the have the bank account details, a quick call the the relevant bank with the correct security clearance will reveal all..?

    I hope I have missed something vital here, and you are able to open my eyes to it.. but at the moment it seams like all these Black hat's are walking a very thin line with only a matter of time before the knock on the door... :rolleyes:

    Im interested to know some more about the VPS you mentioned as well, is this vital?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  13. Dalebob12345

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    Im a new user and this is very confusing , is a stealth account used when you are banned from your real account or is it stealth for a darker reason lol
     
  14. jazzc

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    You put your money there and then it gets in stealth mode and you never see it again :D
     
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    Hi

    I have been trading online for a few months and I did build a solid electronic cigarettes business which was generating a good income, my business was 70% based around receiving payment via paypal from buyers in the UK. I introduced some herbal incense products, these are legal to sell in the UK, but it seems paypal processed the payments for a few weeks and then Unfortunately for me, paypal permanently limited my a/c yesterday that was linked with my website, they are stating it violates their company policy and hence they will permanently limit my account, today they also limited my second a/c, i was using both account for years primarily for buying.

    Today paypal also limited my wifes account which she used only to buy a few items and hardly uses. I feel i am being treated like a criminal, i have not done any fraud or broken and law of the land or scammed anyone, i only sold a few herbal products which are legal to sell but violates paypals policy, if i was aware of that i would never have sold them on my website or accepted payment via paypal.

    the unfortunate thing for me is that i have relied so much on paypal to process my payment and the reality is there is no other alternative which even comes close to rivalling paypal, google checkout probably could have provided competition to paypal but even they are shutting shop.

    I would really appreciate it if you can take time to help / advice me on how to obtain an alternative paypal account, i am a law abiding citizen who has good credibility, i will ease off paypal but to retain my customers i will need paypal, i urge you to please provide me more info. Thank you very much.

    Regards










     
  16. G-S-T

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    Paypal is all about risk management. If your trading poses risk above a certain threshold, they will permanently limit your account and any account they can associate with it.

    They use many factors to evaluate the risk that any account poses and as long as you remain under this threshold then your account will be allowed to trade.

    Paypal is not a bank, dont treat it like one, your money is not safe any you most certainly do not have the control think you have. Paypal can legally hold your funds for months and they often do.
     
  17. dan7123

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    Paypal makes money on interest, why would they let you withdraw when they can just limit your account and hold that money for another 6months, they are thiefs
     
  18. Gogol

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    That's gotta be something dangerous for sure. My account got limited, but instead of opening stelth accounts, I opened 2 accounts in my Mom's and Dad's name. That's perfectly legal IMO.
     
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    Why not just set up and use genuine paypal accounts?.
    I have verified paypal account and use it without any problem
     
  20. webextract

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    are you incapable of reading other peoples posts?

    btw, if anyone is selling a paypal account that is all verified every which way and ready to be used for selling, then please pm me with a price.
     
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