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Can someone explain me this ?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Fab1j0, Jan 18, 2017.

  1. Fab1j0

    Fab1j0 Regular Member

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    Hello

    I don't understand anymore what is happening lol :)... At the google webmaster tools i see ranking for keyword "example" at 16.1.2017 at position #19 and on all serp checker the position for the same day is 50#+.
     
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    Fab1j0 Regular Member

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    Also at 15.1.2017 was on #25 at google webmaster and on allserp checkers 50#+... So in short word in webmaster tools i see that keyword is moving up, but on all serp checker i see it moving down.
     
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    kickthat Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    You aware your keyword is showing in the image above?
     
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    Your keyword is showing lol.

    It looks like a penalty to be honest with you. Did you get any message in your google web master?
     
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    What's wrong if you reveal your keyword? My keyword is "banana" ;) think family guy
     
  7. Fab1j0

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    No i didn't get any message in google web master
     
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    kickthat Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Nothing wrong with it if it was intentional and OP doesn't mind others knowing it. Just most people like to keep it quiet to prevent others from competing. I wasn't sure if he meant to out it, or whether it was accidental, so thought I'd give a heads up ;)
     
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    I'm always a bit doubtful about the accuracy of webmaster tools for position, but don't tend to use other tools much to track SERPs these days so don't know how often they are likely to incorrect.
    In this instance, I would probably check manually to see where it's at. At least then you know which position is accurate for the meantime and which system you are better off trusting to monitor it moving fowards.
     
  10. intenso09

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    Maybe it's still ranking at google.co.uk or so.
     
  11. Fab1j0

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    The more strangest thing... Just check it manual and it's on first page... But all serpchecker still saying it's on 50#, no matter how many times i reflesh.. I checked serplab, serpbook, serpcheck, pro rank tracker....
     
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    Were you logged out of all your google accounts when you checked?
     
  13. Fab1j0

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    Yes also some friend checked. So it's double checked.
     
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    Fab1j0 Regular Member

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    It is possible that ranking for USA changed, because i forget to set what country i'm targeting at webmaster tools ?
     
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    I don't know how serpchecker defines a position, but in Google Search Console the position value shown in the Search Analytics report is the position of the topmost link to your site or page in search results, averaged across all queries in which your site appeared. So, for example:

    1. If one query returned your site at positions 2, 4, and 6, its position is counted as 2 (the topmost position).
    2. If a second query returned your site at positions 3, 5, and 9, its position is counted as 3 (the topmost position).
    3. The average position across these two queries is (2 + 3)/2 = 2.5.

    As you can guess, there could be significant differences in position reporting, depending on the method used.

    If you count in the fact that everybody's results are nowadays personalized (and localized), the differences between tools can be even bigger.

    Personally, I have no reason not to trust Google Search Console data.
     
  16. Fab1j0

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    guys i just want to update you than my website is back at #8...What i did ?:) Firstly i was listening to gurus bull shit and i changed keyword density from 1.6% to 0.8%.. Guess what my website bounced to position #50 and was stable there for a week.. Then i decided to change keyword density back to the original i have and my website bounced back to #8 in only 2 days..

    So in the short words Keyword density is big factor in ranking.. My advice don't listen to anyone and just make your tests.
     
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    I fully support your latter conclusion (do your own tests), but I don't believe the reason for such a significant drop in rankings can be caused by simply changing the keyword density.
     
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    I don't know but all I did was just changing keyword density back to 1.5%.

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    I do - I've been through the same thing last month, but in my case changes I made resulted in KD too high, when I went through pages and fixed them one by one they bounced back.