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Can someone Answer this Incentives question Please??

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by multimedia, Aug 5, 2009.

  1. multimedia

    multimedia Power Member

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    Hi guys :)

    I already posted a similar question yesterday in CPA section, but have got inappropriate answers :D.
    The question is simple.I saw lots of Incentive offers in a Network, so i wish to promote them.Is it ok if I get 80%-100% conversion rates??Will i still need to send Junk traffic to lower conversion??

    Thanks :)
     
  2. multimedia

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    Guys bump.. :D .. please just tell me if i need to send junk traffic for Incentive offers are not :)
     
  3. Zaviar

    Zaviar Newbie

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    Even for incentive sites, 80-100% conversion will be unacceptable. You will need to send junk traffic. I would aim for 10-20%.
     
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    i go up to 100% with c*p*a*l*e*a*d and I'm fine ;>
     
  5. TheBHCat

    TheBHCat Junior Member

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    Each network / offer / AM will be different. Are you really just incentivizing the offer, or are you doing extreme BH marketing? If you're doing BH, it wouldn't *hurt* to just send some junk traffic along... better safe than sorry when it comes to getting paid.

    If you just plan on incentivizing the offers, just call or e-mail your AM and let them know what you plan on doing and ask them if the network is okay with that.... *or* just feed some junk traffic to be safe.
     
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    Not true, conversions that high are definitely acceptable, atleast with all the networks I've worked with.
     
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    If it converts on the advertisers side, they dont care if you have a 150% conversion rate, as long as it converts...
     
  8. multimedia

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    Thanks for all your clean replies guys :)...i got what i wanted to know.Since many reputed members like Jcsarokin and stealth have said that we can even have 100% conversions, does it mean, i can also just start cashing in with CakeSlice.I would definitely use DMR though :D
     
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    Well, conversion rates aren't everything. Your leads also have to back out for the advertisers. If they see you got 500 leads and not a single guy went to the 2nd or 3rd page or tried to get the free prize, then they'll know what you're up to. As long as your traffic converts for the advertisers somewhat they'll know its legit and be fine with your high conversion rates; but when you have high conversion rates (or even low ones but alot of leads) and nothing backs out for the advertisers, thats when you'll get caught.
     
  10. Zaviar

    Zaviar Newbie

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    It likely depends on both the types of offers and the network. I run incentived offers with payouts in the $30-50 range. It would be fishy to have 80-100% conversion for those offers. If you can get legitimate conversions at that % for the offers I run you're a king.
     
  11. multimedia

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    Nice points dude :), so instead of using IFraming, can i just send traffic to the offer page through DMR in FaceBook or forums, so that people will fill out all the details :D ??

    Thanks.

     
  12. Zaviar

    Zaviar Newbie

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    I agree with this. A good way to fly under the radar is to decrease the conversion rate. If you have a high conversion rate, it's likely that the AM or network compliance person will check with the advertiser about the quality. If your conversion is low, you have a much better chance of going undetected. For the low cost of sending crap traffic to it to decrease conversion rate, why not?
     
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    Oh, i see.Dude i am mostly interested to promote Email submits and ZIP submits which range anywhere between 1$-5$, so will it be okay to Iframe them and cash in??
     
  14. Zaviar

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    Yeah you should be fine. Zip and email submits don't make as much money for the advertiser as they once did, so they watch leads more closely. There's also quite a bit of skimming in that area. Basically, the advertiser can decide not to pay for entire blocks of leads and the network will go through with it. To not jepoardize all that time and cost, I'd aim for no higher than 50%, but that's just me.
     
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    Wow, another cool reply man :), so if i use Incentive offers from Big networks like Maxbount or Cpa**lead, as a person above said, can i make atleast 200$ with Incentive offers :D??

    Thanks.
     
  16. Zaviar

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    Definitely. The $$ depends on what you're doing really. With zips and emails, make sure you're rotating different offers (advertisers) and multiple networks.
     
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    Man, you are correct.I shall rotate offers :) as u said.But how much do you think i can earn safely from Email submits per network?? will 50$-100$ a day per network be fine??

    Thanks :)
     
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  18. Zaviar

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    Yup, I would say that anything up to $100 per day per network is fine. You can do a lot more obviously when doing it legitimately, but your goal is to fly under the radar. It's not worth pushing the envelop and getting $2k in leads revoked.
     
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    Thanked you once again bro ;).

    Does other dudes have anything to say??

    Thanks.
     
  20. TheBHCat

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    I would say that you should go with as little as possible, over as many networks as possible to minimize losses in the case of getting banned. Like Zaviar said, nothing is worse then getting banned with you have $2,000 coming to you (unless you have $20,000 coming to you, I suppose).

    If you can use 20 networks and get $50 on each a day, that's still $1000 a day and you should be flying well under the radar on all of them. I like to randomize between many different networks and many different offers on each network (ie., I may be promoting 3 offers on a network, and get $10 for one offer and $20 for the other two)... and have never had a problem.