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can socials signals hurt website?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by rudolf21, Jan 10, 2015.

  1. rudolf21

    rudolf21 Regular Member

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    hi,

    my domain is 5 months old. i do really good backlinks for my website. no spun content for my tier 1, high pa da. last time i bought 30 pbn post, here from bhw.
    my website jumped from 5th page to 2, however website was dancing, then i bought social signals, no to much about 500. and then my domain disappeared.

    Most strange think is, one of the inner page of this website is rank where was a domain, this is in the morning. at the evening, other inner page is ranked on page 2. These pages are not related to main keyword. its some long tail keyword. its been 2 weeks, when i dont see my home page in serp, only inner pages.

    Do you think my website got penalty or it will be back?
     
  2. diesel1

    diesel1 Senior Member

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    How many visitors, per day, did you get when you bought the social signals?
     
  3. rudolf21

    rudolf21 Regular Member

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    traffic come only form google so, there was not so much about 50 visitors
     
  4. bartosimpsonio

    bartosimpsonio Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Did the person who sold you social signals use Gmail by any chance?
     
  5. BuildMoreLinks

    BuildMoreLinks Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    what was the anchor distribution for the posts that went on PBN? and also are the links picked up on Ahrefs?
     
  6. rudolf21

    rudolf21 Regular Member

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    i have no idea. AIO social signal for BHW

    i have used many anchors, main keyword, related, urls, and geenric and yes, i can see backlinks on ahrefs. even one of them i can see on 8 page for main keyword
     
  7. blackice6666

    blackice6666 Regular Member

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    Got a G00gle WMT account? Any warnings there?
    Do you have the PBN Links, are those pages Indexed?
     
  8. rudolf21

    rudolf21 Regular Member

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    I have an account but dont use this tool anymore. I am sceptical to use it. These pages are indexed. As i said one of them is on page 8 for kayword related for my website
     
  9. blackice6666

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    Sorry, but maybe we got a misunderstanding here. So you bought 30 PBN Links. Do you have those links? Or can you get them from ahrefs? My presumption is that the PBN Domains that you got links from got discovered by google. (There is a big chance since these are paid PBN links) and they deindexed them and maybe also penalized your site rankings.

    You should get all of the links and manually check for them on google, if they are indexed or not. If they got deindexed it means that the PBN got discovered.
     
  10. praetserge

    praetserge Power Member

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    When it comes to SEO, sometimes, it's difficult to pinpoint the reason for the drop/rise in rankings.
    You think the problem is with social signals but it could be because of the pbn links or it could be that as google learns more about your site, it re-evaluates its rankings.
    I have much older websites and I still get 10-25 positions drop/rise now and then... sometimes, I get 20 position drops and then recovery in a few days, and it's for an old website, so my advise is to ignore those sporadic fluctuations and concentrate on long term results.
     
  11. marksteve

    marksteve Newbie

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    These social signs shouldn't affect your rank, maybe because you didn't get traffic from them you drop in rank.
     
  12. rudolf21

    rudolf21 Regular Member

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    i dont have these links. i got only screenshots. I can reach them on ahrefs. now i checked pages (not all beacause i dont have an ahrefs account), and what i noticed, 2 pages are not indexed. I bought these posts form bhw. there are good reviews. its ban bang network.

    yes, you are right. but my website is nowhere for 2 weeks. it will be my 4th website, that i can trow to the trash, that why i am worry. every time i got some experience. And now, what is my experience? dont use pbn?
     
  13. blackice6666

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    You should probably ask the seller if any of his domains got hit. Since that is a PBN, the seller might have also blocked ahrefs/majestic/moz crawlers in order to hide his network.

    My opinion is that since your site is still indexed it was not penalized, but you just lost your power because the PBN links are not indexed anymore.
     
  14. rudolf21

    rudolf21 Regular Member

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    ok, i will ask him.

    I have no idea what the hell these inner pages are doing there? why they are ranked on page 2 for keyword related to homepage.
     
  15. blackice6666

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    Are you tracking your keywords with any tool? Or just by manually searching on google. If you are manually searching then it might just be that google knows you clicked those pages before and its giving this results only for you. Try to use incognito/private browsing and search again.
     
  16. rudolf21

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    I use serpbook. i track 20 keywords for this website. only for 2 keywords i can see main domian, for others - pages
     
  17. blackice6666

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    Did you link just your main page with the PBN? Or you backlinked also inner pages? Did you make any changes on your website which might have changed the keyword density etc?
     
  18. rudolf21

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    only main page. i have used only keywords related to website. for ex. "how to cure acne", "how to treat acne", "cure acne". is that good?
     
  19. blackice6666

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    I mean, did you change the content of your site, changed articles or something? Because maybe you screwed up the keyword density on your articles and now you might have an over optimization penalty.
     
  20. rudolf21

    rudolf21 Regular Member

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    no, i didn't. do have more suggestions or ideas? maybe just wait.

    I have also ordered QA service. But they didn't start working on my website yet.