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can i outrank this?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by PlayInStyle, Aug 19, 2010.

  1. PlayInStyle

    PlayInStyle Junior Member

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    I found a good keyword which I want to create a MNS for, but I don't know much about SEO, so after I used Market Samurai to check SEO competition I got a question. Website in #2 spot has only 65 Page Backlinks, but 4,2M Domain Backlinks. So the question is: do Domain Backlinks have a big matter? Is it possible to outrank this site?

    P. S. When checking competition, what factories should I care most about?
     
  2. accelerator_dd

    accelerator_dd Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    It is possible. It's the same as outranking youtube or wikipedia which have millions of domain backlinks, but some pages have only a few. Those 65 shouldn't be a problem. You'll need to supply us with more info (monthy searches, SOC?, domain age of first few results ranking, keyword in domain available?).
     
  3. PlayInStyle

    PlayInStyle Junior Member

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    monthly searches around 6k, don't know what you mean SOC, domain age of the #2 is really big - 14 years, #3 - 8 years, #4 - 3 years. Top four websites don't have keyword in their domain. I just checked for available domains and saw that I can buy .info domain with a keyword in it
     
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    I wouldn't buy .info domain due to excessive spamming made by marketer which caused this extension not to be well seen. Personally, I think you'd be better off with a domain with a hyphen (-). I see a large number of websites (and growing) ranking very well despite of the hyphens.

    Depending on the websites in question, Domain backlinks may have an influence against you. BUT, I would say to you to focus on the "ON PAGE" SEO and start a linkbuilding project covering not only the number of backlinks your competition has but paying attention to the "anchor-text" used by them and PR of the websites (pages) the links are coming from.

    *On-Page SEO
    *Larger number of backlinks
    *Better quality of backlinks (anchor-text, web pages[PR])

    YOU STAND A GOOD CHANCE! ;)
     
  5. llamataboot

    llamataboot Newbie

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    Yes, info domains seem to get slaughtered in the SERPS.

    SOC is a micro niche finder score meaning "Strength of Competition"

    Is it a product page you are building or something else?
     
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    if you can get something other than a .info domain, you should be fine to outrank the site in a couple of months.. just get some high quality backlinks to your site and your rocking
     
  7. PlayInStyle

    PlayInStyle Junior Member

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    not a product. just a simple blog with articles
     
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    S7apster Junior Member

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    If it's not a product (and therefore your competition doesn't consist of inner pages of shopping sites) I'd say you stand a good chance.

    Recently google altered it's algorithm to favor, say, shopping sites when you do a product search as opposed to articles/static pages, that's why I mention it. But if that's not what it is you should be good.
     
  9. PlayInStyle

    PlayInStyle Junior Member

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    I found another keyword, which is much better to outrank. But there's a problem with a domain. I can't buy .com domain because they are taken. So which is better: .org or .net?
     
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    acimag Newbie

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    org or net at fine. try putting - in the domain name not slamming word together. that usually opens up the domain.
     
  11. PlayInStyle

    PlayInStyle Junior Member

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    I tried with '-', but it is taken too... Anyway, thanks. I'll take .net
     
  12. teeniegenie

    teeniegenie Supreme Member

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    The "-" kills your organic rankings compared to the same keyphrase without the "-". Go with .org over .net. It has a slight advantage statistically...