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Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by imagine163, Sep 13, 2009.

  1. imagine163

    imagine163 Newbie

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    I have a site http://www.my-christian-louboutin.com which has over thousand backlinks, but still not showing in any google page with keyword "christian louboutin". But my competitors: http://www.christianlouboutinokay.com or http://www.louboutin2010.com, they just has few links, but in google page #1 now. Is that anyone can help to check what is going on and advise what I should do, thanks.
     
  2. sk1ll

    sk1ll Junior Member

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    is the site new?
     
  3. Ed4252

    Ed4252 Power Member

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    Not sure if it makes a difference but I checked the source for all 3 websites and one thing I noticed was the other two capitalized the keyword in "Christian Louboutin" - "C" and "L" while yours didn't.

    when the words "christian louboutin" are searched, it generates around 800k. "Christian Louboutin" generates close to 4 million.
     
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  4. Debian

    Debian Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Have you set your meta tags correctly?
     
  5. Claudiu

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    answer .. ? simple... way to much competition ... read more about seo and you'll understand how things work.

    this much i'll tell you: 2 words keywords are very competitive
     
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    You can always get on the Google Wagon with an ad-words campaign.
     
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    I believe that the google and yahoo don't show the back links right away. It usually take 1 week almost to get those backlinks to count? Please correct me if I am wrong guys.
     
  8. imagine163

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    My question is why my site has so many black links vs competitors' few backlinks, but competitors showing in page #1, and my sites nowhere in GG. Looking for an SEO expert to check, thanks.
     
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    how quickly did you grow said backlinks ?
    how old is the domain ?
    What PR are you backlinks ?(im not checking 1000)
    Are they anchored links?
    are they all do follow?

    These are all relivant and can effect if google decided to make you play in the sand or ban you.
     
  10. mindhunter77

    mindhunter77 Junior Member

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    Sounds like you site is under six months old, am I right ?
     
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  12. imagine163

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    my backlinks are from PR 0- PR 6. All are anchored links and do follow. But look at my competitors backlinks, only less than 10 backlinks but in page #1. How come this happen?
     
  13. yousefgreat

    yousefgreat Regular Member

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    Backlinks are not the only aspect to rank well...
    There are other factors like the quality of the links, age of domain, onpage seo optimization, etc...

    Work on these, and give it some patience
     
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    One thing I noticed is that alot of your backlinks come from the same sites and the same ip address. You have hundreds of links coming from one site in particular and the same ip and I noticed this pattern throughout your backlinks.
    From what Ive read, google doesn't give these type of links much weight. In fact they may even penalize you because this type of link building is unatural an looks alot like spam.

    BTW...I used checkbacklink,com and both of your competitors have over 400 backlinks each.
     
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  15. ipopbb

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    Domain name matters so little it is laughable. Keyword density man!

    Here is the WH info from a BH mind...

    Title Tag:

    Christian Louboutin - Up to 70% Off

    reason: hyphen separates phrases, unless mid word... your existing title is optimal for "Christian Louboutin, Up to 70% Off" not "Christian Louboutin". In fact you would be pretty well set if you did that to all the references on the page...

    Blockquotes

    These are the new power tag... h1-h3, and link text are currently worthless... you might as well count all of those as nothing or maybe even negative.... use the keyword in block quotes.

    HTML Comments

    Lesser known trick is to create lots of HTML comments with variants of the keywords. HTML comments rank better than keywords in most tags... see the thread on "WH info from a BH mind" for more info...

    AAARRRGGGHHHHH!

    Your doctype tag and your meta content-type tags are opposing standards! Screams quickly built template... Either both should html or both should be xhtml... not one of each. Don't use meta generator...

    Domain != Keywords

    Stuffing you domain everywhere on page is buying you nothing. You're making google work harder to discern local from external links and I'll reckon they'll make you pay for it... legitimate business worries about bandwidth costs. You are showing no concern for legitimate costs.

    URL Parameters

    Use RESTful urls and use div menus over form selects. Passing params to a text/html might be suspicious too. If the params are for javascript then encode in a # anchor instead. You will take a minor hit for using url params.

    Plain Visible Text

    The keyword references that count appear in visible text... link text does not count and h1-3 are not worth much...

    Link to other sites about the keywords

    You can rank a document without the keyword it ranks for. The best way is to have sites link to you with the text. The second best way is to link to sites that rank well for the keywords.

    Put them in the footer... if you loose 2% who cares... thats %2 of traffic you don't currently have... you are losing 100% now so....

    Don't listen to white hat advice

    They make it up as they go and pass it on a religion. ...and they got it almost all wrong as for what really matters. You could opt to exactly follow the opposite of that advice and I'll bet you rank far better. It's ok to know... just don't believe because 5000 blogs regurgitated the same thing... You are smarter than that, and google is smarter than you, so know that over playing WH in your content is what spam LOOKS like.

    oops... ran out of steam... need more vodka at work.
     
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  16. barcodeunit

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    i'd just keep building links... maybe your domain is too new for it to rank well. hang in there and keep building links. make sure you optimize your on-page SEO as well.
     
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    This is very interesting. Where do you place the blockquotes? Below the title tag?
     
  18. ipopbb

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    In the body somewhere...

    There is a "currently being tested" theory about whether or not Google uses full DOM or uses SAX which, is much lighter weight to do at their scale, and then just looks at first parent of text nodes.

    This is geek speak for <a...><blockquote>keywords</blockquote></a> might count as source document keyword reference instead of being an href descriptor of another page. I have some tests currently running... can take weeks to get answers though...

    see my thread "WH info from a BH mind" to follow my tag research. address tag is another power tag.