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Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by nullfo, May 26, 2014.

  1. nullfo

    nullfo BANNED BANNED

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    So, I found this amusing. I always like to browse competitors link profiles, and a lot of them that buy links make these mistakes:

    (okay, it may not be their mistakes, but their provider)

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    So... the builder of the PBN didn't block crawlers; genius!


    Oh, and if you're going to even try to build a PBN, please... please use good content.

    "We is currently am providing the most best" makes no sense.. and yes, that's from one of the articles posted on the site.

    At least make a good spintax or hire a decent writer. If you spend that much on a domain and managing it, at least put in a few bucks for some decent content or use a semi-decent spintax.

    Oh, and spend $1 extra a month to get some decent hosting. If you have tons of backlinks from random sites with terrible content AND they're all on the same IP, that's not a good thing.

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  2. jackl

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    Tbh, I just was checking the competition in my country for ''internet marketing''. Guess what? The top 3 results didn't hide their links at all.
    And 99% of the backlinks were sitewide from their clients 500k+ links that's what they call ''whitehat'' seo....

    It's rediculous how some websites have backlinks from totally irrelevant pages/domains. Come on if you have 500 links on a page ranking #1 for swimming pools, don't you think it's suspicious when 95% of the backlinks are from websites that are about pigfarms?

    These aren't small companies, some have 500+ employees.
    I don't even want to imagine how those russians are doing seo with so many networks like sape etc.
     
  3. tony_d

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    OP, forgive me, but I missed the point? Is the point just that your competitors have links from a network that's not bot-blocked?
     
  4. nullfo

    nullfo BANNED BANNED

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    No, it's his personal network. The point is, don't do what this guy did.
     
  5. kazhkaz

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    I agree with the content part but what is wrong with not blocking the crawlers? Does it give any benefit except that competitors can find your links?
    I think the Google should be feared not your competitors.
     
  6. spectrejoe

    spectrejoe Supreme Member

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    Negative SEO and people can report you to google and destroy your whole pbn in less than a month
     
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    OP, I totally agree with the content part, yes we have to use unique readable content. As we already spend 1k+ for building the PBN a few bucks for content won't give you big loses. But whats the need for blocking the crawlers??? i think this is not important.
     
  8. thanhclix

    thanhclix Power Member

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    If one does negative seo, he doesn't care about your link profile. If one wants to kill your website, he doesn't need to know link profile to report.
     
  9. alvin.orrt

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    Guys what's the best way of blocking crawlers? robots.txt (is so, does anyone have a list of crawlers) or anything else?
     
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    Just use a youtube captions transcriber to get free content for your video search lol...... never pay for articles again
     
  12. spectrejoe

    spectrejoe Supreme Member

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    Negative seo can be performed on several domains not only one -_-
    If he finds your whole PBN he can neg SEO all your domains + report them to google

    If you really think there's no benefits you're just being ignorant
     
  13. alvin.orrt

    alvin.orrt Regular Member

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    not looking to block ahrefs only. There's also majestic, moz / ose and a few others and from what i saw, each of them use lots of user agents. Blocking their IP's would probably be the best thing to do (in my opinion) but i guess they must have multiple ips. So i'm looking for a 100% safe solution (if there's any).

    and then there's the other question: if you block all crawlers across your pbn, isn't that a clear footprint?
     
  14. Random101

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    While I agree you should block sites like Ahrefs.

    The thing is Ahrefs doesen't always obey these plugins/robots.txt.. Sometimes they will pick up on some of your PBN sites anyway.
     
  15. kazhkaz

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    Footprint for whom? If they can't find your PBN sites then they can't see any footprint.
    And I don't think Google uses robots.txt to find footprints.
     
  16. demanz

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    Maybe I'm being paranoid but regarding 'footprints'... If your site was flagged for a manual inspection by G I'm sure their team has access to Ahref, majestic, moz etc. If they were to compare their own link profile of your site to the others I'd imagine it would give them a nice list of your PBN.

    Again maybe I'm paranoid, but hey when it comes to SEO (black or white) paranoia is your friend.
     
  17. jrb1992

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    Yeah i have seen this myself. My competitor gets thousands of unrelated footer links from 50 sites. How can google rank that site i can't believe.