BTC crashes again

Imho, saying that BTC represents blockchain is like saying paper money represents printing press or ink. The technology is useful, but the paper/bits that come out do not necessarily have intrinsic value, in fact paper has higher (albeit close to none) intrinsic value than digital money by itself. You listed a lot of benefits of a decentralized digital money, but none of them imply that there is intrinsic value in the digital currency itself. Do note we are talking here strictly about BTC, not about “smart contracts” etc…
This is just grammar mate. Nothing has intrinsic value in itself. Value is only value if it is percieved as value.
 
This is just grammar mate. Nothing has intrinsic value in itself. Value is only value if it is percieved as value.
Would you say it is “just grammar” with barter items in barter economy? If we would trade with food, that has value, so do metals, etc… I know barter items are not currency, I guess metal coins come as close to the actual currency while retaining real value, as possible.

But I see your point. Food has greater value to a hungry person.
 
Imho, saying that BTC represents blockchain is like saying paper money represents printing press or ink. The technology is useful, but the paper/bits that come out do not necessarily have intrinsic value, in fact paper has higher (albeit close to none) intrinsic value than digital money by itself. You listed a lot of benefits of a decentralized digital money, but none of them imply that there is intrinsic value in the digital currency itself. Do note we are talking here strictly about BTC, not about “smart contracts” etc… Not looking to argue, I am just questioning the mantra that BTC will “save us from fiat”.




I use crypto as well, but mostly I buy other cryptos with BTC, I don’t pay directly with BTC because fees are too high.
No, look, I don't see BTC as money, more like an artwork, that's why I said it represents blockchain. Buying Bitcoins is like buying pieces of original Mona Lisa. That's all.
I am pretty sure it won't be used as currency, there will be other cryptos to do that better. Probably will be used in universities to teach students how it was in the beginning of blockhain era or something lol
 
I use crypto as well, but mostly I buy other cryptos with BTC, I don’t pay directly with BTC because fees are too high.
You've answered your question by yourself. BTC is a store of value in the crypto world, like gold is for fiat. It was the first one and everyone will trust it to store their money in it no matter how much it dips.

It's hard and costly to move and store gold, but people are still buying it.

The real estate prices are 60% up for the last 10 years. Gold is up 20% for the last 10 years. BTC is up 100% for the last 5 years even if you bought at the top at 2017 and sell now at 40K.
 
No, look, I don't see BTC as money, more like an artwork, that's why I said it represents blockchain. Buying Bitcoins is like buying pieces of original Mona Lisa. That's all.
I am pretty sure it won't be used as currency, there will be other cryptos to do that better. Probably will be used in universities to teach students how it was in the beginning of blockhain era or something lol

Well times are changing. There was a time I used Bitcoin as money to make and receive payments - until discovered cheaper and faster altcoin cryptos. I cant fathom making payments with it now with its crazy fees. Its not even on my radar for investments either. Altcoins take the cake here. So Bitcoin really is being driven now by traditional investors new to the cryptoverse. Thats my honest opinion.
 
Hold on, just money is shifting here to there, I don't have single coin, but I know stock market so I can understand.
 
Can one of the BTC advocates explain to me their reasoning why, in their opinion, BTC is not just another fiat?

I'm definitely not a crypto advocate. Cryptos can have value in the same way that payment processors have value, through the value of the service they provide.

They can also act as a bank account for people living in countries with unstable currencies or banking laws. For instance, I'd rather have money in a portfolio of stable coins than Venezuelan Bolívars.
 
Fiat = Crypto as long as tether exists.

Honestly if btc falls too much like it seems to be now and trends below say 30k for more than a day tether will implode, you will see some major discounts when that happens. I imagine most whales and institutions will be out by then, just make sure youre not holding the bag.
 
Well times are changing. There was a time I used Bitcoin as money to make and receive payments - until discovered cheaper and faster altcoin cryptos. I cant fathom making payments with it now with its crazy fees. Its not even on my radar for investments either. Altcoins take the cake here. So Bitcoin really is being driven now by traditional investors new to the cryptoverse. Thats my honest opinion.
I wouldn't dismiss Bitcoin completely as investment, although I'm not quite in tune with this new narrative "store of value, electronic gold", I think Bitcoin can grow a lot in time. Let's not forget who's the party starter for crypto bullruns. Also, every single crypto out there is traded for BTC. There is always at least a Shitcoin-BTC pair on exchanges. Maybe no FIAT pair, but definitely BTC pair.
So, you can say alts are "backed" by BTC, somewhat like Gold standard in the past for Fiat.
Whatever real world use cases (and ultimately value) altcoins have, a share of that value goes into Bitcoin as well.
 
It is just speculation. The recovery will surprise many
 
the bull run is over , it was over when btc tried 3 times to break 60k ,the bears are in and will be for awhile now $20-25k ..consolidation will be 6 months minimum .
 
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