BS Your Way to Internet Riches

sircoldfire,

Your post is the most pure BS I have seen on this thread.



My work is 100% my writing. I compiled the information from a variety of sources, but there is no rehashing going on. (Do you even know what rehashing is?)

You really should be careful to make sure you know what you are talking about before you post stuff like that. You otherwise embarrass yourself.

If you run your business like you do Internet posts, my unsolicited advice is to rethink your approach.

At any rate, I wish you well. And that's no BS...

robert chaildini : influence ... its chapters 1-6 as headlines ... i know rehashing cause i do it all the time

1. Reciprocation: If you give someone something for free, he feels the need to give you something back. That's why you give out freebies. That's also why you are constantly told to over-deliver in the Internet marketing literature.

2. Consistency and commitment: If someone does something once, he is more likely to do it again under the same circumstances than he is to do something different. That's why you try to get him to make that first click or accept that first email, etc. This is sometimes called baby-steps.

3. Social proof: If a lot of people say something is good or bad, the person hearing it or viewing it will be induced to go along. The whole reason for testimonials is right here. Crowd psychology is based on social proof triggers.

4. Liking: A person is more prone to grant someone he likes the benefit of the doubt than someone he doesn't like. That's why you try to be human, show your weaknesses with charming humility, talk about your problems and dreams, etc. Once he likes you, he will actually read your sales copy.

5. Authority: Another word for this is credibility. If a person thinks you are an expert, he will often take your word over another person's without checking it. If you have trouble being truthful, which is the best way to obtain long-term credibility, bullshit people often about what an expert you are. Many will believe you sight unseen.

6. Scarcity: Our customer likes to have something others can't have. This makes him feel special. Countdowns and "Only 23 left" kinds of messages yank this trigger.

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btw thats a EXELENT book for IM guys to read its worth reading atleast once every 6 months

sircoldfire,

Rehashing, as used in the Internet marketing world, means presenting the work of others as if it were something new, usually without attribution.

I did not present this stuff as something new. I presented it as a summary of what I have studied and stated that I would properly source everything later in the final work.

Just as I thought, though, you do not know what rehashing is. But seeing your enthusiasm for giving advice regarding things where you lack instruction, I do find it believable that--as you said--you do rehashing all the time.

So you know who Cialdini is and what his 6 big triggers are (although there is plenty more in his main book, like sensory contrast, using the word "because," etc.). Big deal. Everyone knows what he wrote, or at least, if you have a minimum interest in copywriting, you should. When I wrote my article, I presumed that most readers would recognize the "positive triggers" as coming from him.



Some Namedropping

Have you studied Sugarman's triggers? Hoghead's fascination triggers? Hanlon's primal triggers? Kunkel's instant appeal triggers? (All that's just for starters...) Or any NLP at all--things like nested loops, embedded commands, pattern interrupt, etc.? How about memes and idea viruses (say from Rushkoff, Joyner and Godin)?

How about just plain old vanilla-flavored storytelling?

I could go on and on about this stuff--and not just namedrop or copypaste--because that's all I study, day in and day out.

But I'll operate from a position of abundance and goodwill. Since I have concluded and verified that you do not know what rehashing is, I will give you a concrete example.



Case Study -- Goobert

Way back when, an Internet marketer named Michael Campbell came up with the Goobert system of blogging. Basically it goes like this:

You blog about a niche topic. You try to write every day. You set Google alerts for pertinent keywords so you will see the latest news and blog posts from all over the web. You post quotes from the ones you like and make comments about them on your blog--giving attribution and linking to the original, of course. This is your main blog material.

Then, when the material you quoted is from a post on another person's blog (and not, say, a news article), you leave a comment on that blog with a backlink--this backlink can go to your home page or to the post you made where you quoted this person's article.

Then you bookmark this person's opening article (where your made your comment). Note: You do not bookmark your own blog and you do not bookmark the comment you left on the other person's blog. You bookmark the opening article.

This way, (1) your bookmarking accounts always show new material that is not by you, (2) the spiders will come first to the opening article, then naturally to your comment, then to your blog, thus making the backlink a high-quality one. And, (3) since you quoted the piece on your blog and commented about it there, Google finds this material highly relevant, so it rewards you with high rankings.

(Note, it is better to write different stuff on your own blog about the quoted material than the comment you make on the other person's blog. Reword it if you are lazy, or actually do some writing. But different is better.)

This was Michael Campbell and his Goobert system. It has proven time and time again to result in floods of highly qualified traffic.



To Rehash or Not To Rehash, That is the Question

Since then, a slew of different-named systems followed that were essentially the same--the more recent ones use the term "content curation." A good example is Nanoblooging by Spaepen or Affiliate Pilot by Baxter. In terms of the core system, these are nothing but rehashes of Michael Campbell's system, albeit with some other stuff thrown in. (Spaepen adds some social marketing to the mix and Baxter does some interesting gray hat things with the blog content itself.

Anyway, that's high-class rehashing. I think we all know what low-class rehashing is.

Now, if you come along, discuss Campbell's system, just like I did, and compare it to other systems, just like I did, that is not rehashing. That is the start of an original book or a report.

Also, if you compile a bunch of information, like I did in the opening article, give your opinion on what works and what does not, or say that the best things you have found are AAA, BBB and CCC, and give descriptions of them, that is not rehashing. That is also the start of an original work.

In short, with rehashing, you don't have to use your brain. But if you integrate the work of others within a theme of your own making, you do have to use your brain.

I hope that helps.



Fake It Until You Make It

This is important, so I went off-theme here in this thread. But frankly, it's blowing the hell out of the "BS" motif I constructed.

(btw - Do you know what a motif is? )

More unsolicited advice. Try to avoid giving advice on matters when all you are doing is faking it to show off.

Busted!

sircoldfire said:

robert chaildini : influence ... its chapters 1-6 as headlines ... i know rehashing cause i do it all the time

btw thats a EXELENT book for IM guys to read its worth reading atleast once every 6 months

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Maybe he IS Robert Cialdini since he claimed that his work is 100% his writing.

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P.S. Too bad it's not in G books.

P.P.S. Rather, it's on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Cialdini

Let's make sure we keep this honest.

Here is a direct quote from the opening of my article.

Stumickel said:

I don?t have many secrets, though. All I have are some thoughts, overviews and technical information. ...

I wish I could take credit for some of this stuff, but it came from many sources. Those of you who are old-timers will know where a lot of things came from.

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Let's get back to quality BS.

To start with, I first heard of Cialdini several years ago from an Internet marketer called Mark Hendricks. I salivated for a couple of years about a system he had of writing and using the 6 triggers all in the same work. He claimed that you have to use them in a certain order, though, to make them work best.

Finally, a while back, I came across a video where he described it. And just recently, this video has been posted on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSDljOoE1og


For BS'ers who want to convert well, this is a great way to make N.inja BS.

Thank you so much. Finally, somebody explains it all in a simple easy to understand way. this is great. Long, but great.

thanks for the tip!

very nice!

Man that topic is classic as important of Internet Marketing as the "Internet Book of Shadows" was for the Internet in the past mehehee!

That topic should never ever die!

I will add few more things:

Be wrong, but never in doubt: you must be the own that say that everything is going to be all right, you must be confident, have authority, alay the fears and doubts of your targets.

Be a celebrity specialist: focus on one area of expertise and be the tribal leader of that niche.

great reading

laughed the entire way through the post. 100% true. Thanks for writing it

Very informative. Thanks

The biggest bs I've seen is one called click conspiracy. Look it up. Man, it takes bs to a whole new level.

learned a lot from this thanks.

Hey man thatnks for sharing! It really help!

i hope i get rich one day !

Awesome post OP. Thank you- and that's no BS.

what an eye opener will read through and see if I can make this work

I'm glad that I came across this today. You did a really nice job combining a lot of information into this thread. Taking the time to read through it all has helped to place some things in perspective and given me a few ideas as well.