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Brand New Domain using SAPE?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by pmvuong, Jun 2, 2013.

  1. pmvuong

    pmvuong Registered Member

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    Hi guys,

    I gonna try SAPE. I think I'm going to create a brand new site for that keyword. My question is that, should I use SAPE link immediately after doing on-page seo on that new site? Or should I continue publishing contents for a while before using sape?

    Do you use sape directly on your money site or use it on web 2.0? Should you build some high PR link first before using SAPE or just use sape as the only source of backlinks?

    Thank you!
     
  2. mikeydell

    mikeydell Senior Member

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    My advice beings its a brand new domain is to use a web2.0 buffer site.
     
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  3. mzonas

    mzonas Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Generally, older sites take longer to get their rankings tanked after they get penalty ... what I am trying to say is that aged sites work better with any spam-type links.

    I always build links for new sites because I have no time to wait for half year.
     
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  4. omagad

    omagad Regular Member

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    SAPE or no SAPE if you blast your brand new domain you will hit the sandbox. Period.

     
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  5. pmvuong

    pmvuong Registered Member

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    Thanks for your advice, guys!

    Anyone has successfully ranked sites using sape with brand new domain? :)
     
  6. just4ivaylo

    just4ivaylo Regular Member

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    Isn't that kind of a generalization? I've yet to get sandboxed for any of my domains, including those who use SAPE and other linking methods. Just make sure your strategy isn't just SAPE or cheap spam links.
     
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    cool.dude123 Senior Member

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    SAPE on brand new sites with no other link building does work and works well, even a few thousand SAPE links have been safe with me :) , but I would advice building other links to diversify you backlink profile. here are some suggestions for tier 1 links.

    PDF links
    web 2.0 blogs
    social bookmarks (high Pr ones)
    high PR blog comments (work really well :) )
    high PR wiki
    social signals

    • facebook shares
    • twitter tweets
    • google plus one
     
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  8. sandhu40

    sandhu40 Junior Member

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    Set your site up properly. Backlink with the same velocity, ie don't stop the constant building of links - however small or large the daily increase is. Your site won't get sandboxed - why should it?
     
  9. sandhu40

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    Don't waste time adding useless content just for the sake of content. Certainly don't waste your time with Facebook likes and Twitter tweets. It's all a myth..
     
  10. mikeydell

    mikeydell Senior Member

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    So you say old wise one.......lol
     
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    Unless I could live with trashing the site and starting over - which it seems you can and will be able to do ... Im not longer pushing those kind of links - especially those that the white hats are crying about ad nauseum [ Danny Sullivan / Barry Schwarts / Rand Fishkin and the other trust fund blogger - google mouthpiece crowd ] - directly at a money site I cared about.

    Maybe buy a handful of aged PR domains - PR3 + and some aged low PR for maybe $100 - get like 10 aged - with various PR levels. Set them up on varied hosting / IP's and niche them out with related content to your new $$$ site. Then point everything from SAPE at those 10 tier 1, and perhaps other spam links like a mofo. Then if shit hits the fan you can unwind those tier 1 links and or point them to another site ?


    3 posts on the homepage - low OBL - a couple of links out to some other authority sites inner pages in your niche - wikipedia - etc ...

    good luck!

    SAPE direct to new $$$ - I say not a good idea.
     
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  12. pmvuong

    pmvuong Registered Member

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    Thanks for the advice guys! Love BHW!
     
  13. Lilacor

    Lilacor Regular Member

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    Even without using other methods for anchor diversification it all works fine. I use just SAPE.
     
  14. Martin1971

    Martin1971 Senior Member

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    70% Sape directly to my €€€ site + 30% web 2.0's also directly to my money site.
    On sape links only your main keywords at least 4 / 5
    On web 2.0 long tail's, keywords, and other sh*it like, click here, more info, etc.

    I just found this out a month ago and............ works fine, ranking are going up and up!
     
  15. Martin1971

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    I second that!
     
  16. Flodner

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    Get as much good content as you can, then use SAPE
     
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    if anyone use SAPE is there any chance to punished from google ? if we dont start link building but using sap or doing link building also using sape?