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Bought a cool domain, how much is it worth ?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by handmadebots, Jun 30, 2014.

  1. handmadebots

    handmadebots Senior Member

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    Hei guys,

    I've been on this forum for a while now, but I am creating bots most of my time, and I haven't really got deep into SEO, even thought I've made a lot of SEO tools, I haven't used them for myself. I am a really peaceful and activist guy. I am really interested in this stuff, and it captures my attention. I don't know if you know about trueactivist.com or whydontyoutrythis.com, but they pretty interesting websites, about all kind of stuff. I don't own them and I'm not affiliated with them. I want to make a similar site for myself, and post on it when I have some free time here and there.

    I found a pretty good name for my domain (won't make it public), and I was wondering if it's really worth something, just the domain (the name actually). Is there any way to check how much is it worth ? I don't even have a website for it now, I bought it a few days ago. I've seen some online worth calculators, but they are verifying your backlinks, PR, etc, and do the math.

    If you have some ideas, how I could check this, please let me know.
     
  2. Godziwa

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    There is no way we will know this without backlink metrics or the domain name if you don't have back link metrics.
     
  3. SkyrocketSEO

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    If you got it for reg fee it costs reg fee...
     
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    online website worth calculators are totally worthless.
     
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    It's worth what you paid for it + the value you're able to add to it.

    FB.com was worth a few thousand bucks for being two-letter. Then Facebook came along.

    That's just how it works : it depends.
     
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  6. handmadebots

    handmadebots Senior Member

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    looks like I should start working on it
     
  7. tecnocheap4u

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    Give me the name by pm and I sent you a report with SEO Powersite about your domain and then you can post here your analytics for your web without them knowing your website.
     
  8. TheUnborn

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  9. keeponrocking

    keeponrocking Regular Member

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    Yes, there's a way.

    For a few days browse around different registrars and pay attention
    what premium domains are worth the most. Soon you will be able
    to figure out which words and phrases have the most value.

    It's a skill like everything else, e.g. go study premium domains for
    few months and soon you will be an expert in that. You will have
    an inner feel as well as analytic insight into good domain names.

    Than put everything into practice and develop your skill even further!
     
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  10. Numbuh362

    Numbuh362 Elite Member

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    a lot of online appraisals will give you the wrong price, on godaddy they say my site's worth $800 when in reality I don't think anyone would pay $8 for it.
     
  11. Dr Acula

    Dr Acula Junior Member

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    Not true. At. All.

    I've paid reg fee and sold for 4 figures days and weeks later. The price of something is what someone is willing to pay for it. In economics: the greater fool theory of pricing.
     
  12. AutoSuccess

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    You can use free domain appraisal tools like Estibot, but automatic appraisals are never accurate. If you want to get your peers opinions and potential exposer to possible buyers, you could get it appraised for free on Flippa or Namepros.
     
  13. poetry1969

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    I agree bot estimates suck. Here are some value adding ideas though...

    1. If the name is memorable and unlikely to be confused with another name, then it has more value.
    2. If the name is composed of language that is likely to be the search criteria, then it is worth more (e.g., usedcarsforsale.com)
    3. If the name has some age to it, many people assume some value there but not everyone.
    4. If it is a .com/.net/.org it is generally considered to have more value than the same name in any other non-governmental extension.
    5. The the subject matter of the name is popular or trending wildly, it might have more value but if the nitch is too competitive many knowledgeable buyers stay away.
    6. If the name is a single dictionary word, or 1/2/3 letters long it is generally considered to be more valuable.

    Then you have other factors unrelated to the name itself, like backlinks, history, any existing website, membership revenue, Google penalties present, value of the nitch, etc etc... In the end, you will need to personally decide what it is worth in the marketplace compared to other names in the marketplace. I have personally found that the auctions and so forth are terrible indicators. I recently tried to auction a name on Ebay for $500 and I received no bids and two emails with low offers and ridiculous insults about my price. Both were from SEO people. A couple days ago I sold that same domain for $2800 after contacting less than 35 businesses in the market to open negotiations for the name. OK... now, there is the other side of the coin. Sometimes people put names on the flippa site and they are able to sell domains for more than they are worth (in my opinion)-- and with no understandable reason that I can recognise. SO... what I'm saying here is that you really take your chances when you go to auction with a name. It could be awesome for you, but often results in poor returns. If you really believe in the name, you might at least try selling it yourself.

    Good luck. I hope you have a winner.
     
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  14. handmadebots

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    Thanks for the info.
     
  15. Laubster

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    The marketplace is the best place to determine it's true value. If it's just the name, put it on Flippa with a reserve and see how high the bids go (if you really want to sell it or put a $$ value on it).
     
  16. InsanelySane

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    It is true. Your case was the exception and not typical of what to expect. In a sense, you're both right, though practically every domain that is reggable is worth reg fee until someone "needs" it. Where as 2 letter domains are worth xxxx as a base fee, regardless of a buyer.

    Go on namepros.com and look at all those idiots regging hundreds of ridiculous names per month.

    They buy like 400 domains, sell maybe 1 or 2 for a few hundred bucks and think they've "scored". Its like gambling at the slot machines.
     
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    sorry to ruin the fun but im sure it's not better than my domain hairy-an.us
     
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    only meathead1234 can tell you its trueworth