1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Bots that open broswer windows

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by Moses199, Jun 21, 2014.

  1. Moses199

    Moses199 Newbie

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2013
    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    0
    I noticed some bots open a browser window to run an actions, while others run the action from inside the application. What is this called?
     
  2. Moses199

    Moses199 Newbie

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2013
    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    0
    If anyone know what this is called please let me now
     
  3. Asif WILSON Khan

    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2012
    Messages:
    10,139
    Likes Received:
    28,608
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Fun Lovin' Criminal
    Location:
    London
    Home Page:
    You want to know how to run the browser hidden?

    Which bots are you talking about and what were they created with?
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  4. Moses199

    Moses199 Newbie

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2013
    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yes, if that what it's called. But if not, i want to know what this function is called because sometimes when i have bots developed it would have that function, but i would rather have the action run inside the app instead of from the browser. That's why i want to know what it's called, so i can tell the developers not to make it like that.

    The bots were private i had someone develop them for me. One was Vb.net and the other was Java. Both of them ran actions from the broswer instead of from the app.
     
  5. Asif WILSON Khan

    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2012
    Messages:
    10,139
    Likes Received:
    28,608
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Fun Lovin' Criminal
    Location:
    London
    Home Page:

    Just tell them you want the bot or app to run in a hidden browser. The browser will still run but you just won't see it.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  6. tb303

    tb303 Power Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2011
    Messages:
    601
    Likes Received:
    280
    I think you mean "http web requests". They are usually used where multiple threads are required.
     
  7. achraf

    achraf Newbie

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2013
    Messages:
    22
    Likes Received:
    1
    these bots are created with ubot studio
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  8. fatboy

    fatboy Elite Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2008
    Messages:
    1,618
    Likes Received:
    3,227
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Old Peoples Home
    Some software, such as Ubot, will run in its own browser window (either in the display, hidden or sockets). If you look at something like iMacros, that doesn't have a built in browser so will use Firefox.

    Like others have said, it will depend on what software is being used.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  9. Moses199

    Moses199 Newbie

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2013
    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yeah, but i noticed few bots (ThmblingJaz for example) login to multiple accounts simultaneously and run actions from those account. Are these programs using 1 browser for this?
    I don't think they are because i can't manually login to multiple account simultaneously using 1 broswer.
     
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2014
  10. asap1

    asap1 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2013
    Messages:
    4,475
    Likes Received:
    2,871
    Occupation:
    Quality Control PBN
    Home Page:
    I know what hes talking about but i dont know what its called

    Hes talking about a bot like pinblaster or xtumblebot (just for examples) you input the information or whatever then press start and you dont see anything moving or whatever BUT the bot is doing its magic.

    I dont know how bots are coded like this but just clearing it up so maybe someone else can give you more information
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  11. seeplusplus

    seeplusplus Power Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2008
    Messages:
    511
    Likes Received:
    163
    Or you mean a program which uses the webBrowser control, compared to one which uses either headless browser, or a socket etc.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  12. Moses199

    Moses199 Newbie

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2013
    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    0
    Sorry for the late reply guys

    I'm not sure, but i did some research on some "WebBroswer control" bots and found the following bots:

    1. www. youtube.com/watch?v=LWVzjM6aP7U
    2. www. vimeo.com/94778453

    Are these program you mean that use "WebBroswer control"? If yes, how would they be able to hide the browser from displaying?
     
  13. iomcielo

    iomcielo Newbie

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2014
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    4
    There are two types of bots:

    Bots that have control over a webbrowser (the bots in the videos)
    Those bots are slower because they have to render the webpage
    But therefore the developer can directly work with the page (execute javascript and inspect the DOM)
    That makes creating and maintaining these kind of bots easier
    The developer can also hide the "webbrowser window" from the user
    Those bots are cheaper, because they can be created faster


    And there are bots that work directly with webrequests
    Those bots are faster because they just send the requests (http header + body)
    But the developer has to manually figure out what the javascript does and replicate the behaviour of the site
    That makes creating and maintaining those bots harder
    If you want to scale your campaings (with multiple accounts/proxies/...) you will need this kind of bots
    But those bots are also more expensive
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  14. Unknown Overlord

    Unknown Overlord Junior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2009
    Messages:
    104
    Likes Received:
    44
    Bots that are run without the web browser are done using Sockets.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  15. yenerich

    yenerich Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2013
    Messages:
    1,008
    Likes Received:
    171
    Home Page:
    iMacros Enterprise Edition does have a internetl browser.

    -----------------------------------

    Its does not matter if a software uses its own window to host IE or use it just as an IE instance, its the same, it can run it hidden or not.
     
  16. Moses199

    Moses199 Newbie

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2013
    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    0
    Are these bot from these videos Ubots or different kind of bots?
    1. www. youtube.com/watch?v=LWVzjM6aP7U
    2. www. vimeo.com/94778453

    Also, in the video below where is the bot running it's browser from? At 5:04 it's posting content but a broswer doesn't appear...
    www. youtube.com/watch?v=CmMkK5BNf0o
     
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2014
  17. yenerich

    yenerich Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2013
    Messages:
    1,008
    Likes Received:
    171
    Home Page:
    Im not agree. (And i develop some bot builder tool).
    In first place in the bots that uses some instace of the browser there are some thing called headless browser, this means a browser that does not show up but render the page.
    Could take more time but its more precise, much more effective.
    The other browsers just download the HTML code but dont render it (and dont run jquery, javascript, glash, etc) so are very limited and fails much more often since it can do not detect many things.
    Its very important today to render the page and to run all the additional scripts, plugins, etc. that a browser can run, because most web 20.0 pages and social ones uses a lot, you are going to fail a lot if you do not render the page and are capable of render flash, jquery, etc.

    The idea of a bot is to replicate some task that people can do in a browser, but extracting information from some text fie, per exmaple, for filling the info needed and also can store the results (images, data, etc). Per example a bot that creates accounts.
    If the page uses jquery, in general, the only way to being sucessfully, is rendering the page and running javascript, flash, etc.
     
  18. kingpronew

    kingpronew Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2013
    Messages:
    369
    Likes Received:
    39
    Occupation:
    CEO
    Location:
    www.luckygiftcard.com
    Home Page:
    You need to learn about imacro, this will automate many tasks, oryou can find a freelancer and outsource coding an imacro script
     
  19. sn0rt

    sn0rt Elite Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2012
    Messages:
    1,705
    Likes Received:
    3,502
    Occupation:
    "Most obstacles melt away when we make up our mind
    Location:
    "Knowing is not enough; we must apply. Willing is
    Op, why don't you just explain to your developer what you want?

    I'm sure they'll understand. A good developer should be able to translate simple/laymen terms into its equivalent application.
     
  20. shaddelick

    shaddelick Regular Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2008
    Messages:
    366
    Likes Received:
    126
    What is your desired outcome? Are you concerned with browser cookies and flash cookies?