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Blog comments now worthless?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by jclz123, Jul 2, 2010.

  1. jclz123

    jclz123 Regular Member

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    I have heard guys say that pages with more than 50 outbound links do not effect the page rank of your site.. Does anybody know if this is true? If so, then surely most blog commenting techniques are worthless?
     
  2. sikandar

    sikandar Senior Member

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    If you can take efforts to find pages on do-follow blogs which have high pagerank and few comments and then putting comments that don't like spam - you'll get rewards. I got one of my 1 month old sites on page #1 of all 3 search engines for a major keyword just by blog commenting and social bookmarking.
     
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  3. jclz123

    jclz123 Regular Member

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    Good stuff, however the question still remains, are comments with lots of outbound links (50+) worthless for ranking on Google?
     
  4. bowcot84

    bowcot84 Junior Member

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    Are you willing to share with us an idea of how major your "major" keyword is, how many comments you made and on what PR of site? Just as a flavour of what's doable.

    Cheers.
     
  5. blackhat-dudette

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    Hmmmm,
    This is something I have not come across, but then again you never know.
    Sometime, you have to test, and not just assume that what big G say goes.

    I myself doubt very much the "nofollow" rule, after specifically targeting "nofollow" blogs and commenting on them, then finding the link in my yahoo site search.
    Very interesting indeed.

    I think the only way to find out is to test.
     
  6. swampcat

    swampcat Newbie

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    I have many PR0 sites ranking at #1 because of the sheer number of backlinks I created to these sites. A low PR site can outweigh a high PR site due to it's having a ton more backlinks. Conversely, a site with few backlinks but all from high PR sites can earn itself a high PR and rank above some sites with lots more backlinks. I try for a mix of both - loads of backlinks but some quality ones included and links from authority sites & sites such as DMOZ.
    For this reason I still use blog commenting as a big part of my 'mix'.
     
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    Micallef Supreme Member

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    An OBL of 50 does not make a blog worthless for comment spam.

    The higher the PR of the page, the more outbound links youh can have present while still getting some benefits.

    With a PR 0 or 1 or 2 page, anything above 50 is a waste of time unless it's relevant or carries some other kind of authority.

    PR3, I would say up to 100 and you will get some benefits.

    PR4, 150

    PR5, 200

    PR6, 300

    PR7, 500

    Remember, PR is an important indicator of link-power but it is not the whole story. There may be other good reasons besides PR to get your link onto a page.
     
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  8. Crazyshots

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    I have also seen my website ranking up so high just in few weeks of blog commenting on high PR sites. Amazing
     
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    Commenting on high pr spammed pages 100 OBL's and above still works great form me.
     
  10. rockz

    rockz Newbie

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    I have been thinking about that. I have commented on tons of blogs, but no effect for my blog.

    Now, I think G knew where the content and where the comments.
     
  11. beatuplunchbox

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    I push sites with little more than comment spam. Variety seems to be a really important factor as well as page rank.

    I see these auto approve df blogs as targets of opportunity and if the highest pr page is a NA or 0, I still drop links because I am already there and because I can, so why not.

    Works for me very well.
     
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    Works very well.
     
  13. GreyWolf

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    This was the first thing I thought of when I first saw this thread.

    To decide that blog comments are worthless simply because their OBL waters down the value of PR from the site is a pretty shortsighted way of looking at links. As Micallef has said, there's more to consider than just PR.
     
  14. stradivari

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    I will share my experience. One of the websites I rank for shows up on page 1 for a quite competitive keyword. We're talking about lots and lots of backlinks to stay there comfortably...

    As you can imagine I'm not immune to some temperamental changes and certain weeks I'm able to rank #1. some days I'm #4 and it happened to go down on #9, but always on serp #1 since I'm a diligent guy... To my best knowledge what every single time increased my position has always been a good run of scrapebox with ~1k backlinks at a time.

    The number of times per week I repeat the operation vary. I don't really pay attention to the PR since it's all on autopilot once I removed the duplicates (URLs and domains). Also I DO NOT ping the results so the growth seems more natural and every time I was able to climb up and win back a better ranking.

    Until my competitors do the same shit I do, I suppose. ;) So I suspect this thing of the OBL > 50 is largely a myth or at least not so relevant.
     
  15. verticall

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    Can someone explain the point of posting on hundred of blogs w/ Scrapebox? Most (if not, ALL almost) are nofollow blogs. How is that going to help us in any way?
     
  16. Italian Hawk

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    It may not help your page rank, but page rank isn't the only thing that matters.
     
  17. ixrumer

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    A link is still a link. These links might prove very useful for easy-moderate difficulty.
     
  18. jclz123

    jclz123 Regular Member

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    But if a link is still a link why not just Xrumer it and get 10,000?
     
  19. lowteg

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    I think they are worth it especially if its a edu blog =)

    Also in your blog post if you post a decent size comment and use the name under anchor and then url. But really in the big picture of SEO blog comments are not that great.
     
  20. eng152

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    Yeah 100 OBL is a threshold value. But it depends on PR. If you have a page with PR6,7 with 300OBL, still those pages give good result. But viagra related OBL kill the quality.