Blocking Followers who are not engaged with page?

So wouldn't doing this be beneficial for your overall page because if they don't like/comment on your page then they are not helping you. Instead, they're making you look worse. (searched the forum already, didnt find specifically answering this) Thus, by blocking them and decreasing your follower count you are improving your engagement %? Does this make sense or a dumb idea?

Is there a way to identify which followers you have that are not liking your page? Other than manually looking through them I mean, like a way to do realistically do this for a larger following 10k+?

which platform are you tiling about ?

W9go said:

which platform are you tiling about ?

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not exactly sure what you mean by that, do you mean like in FL?

There's some apps in ios appstore that let you see your worst followers (no engagement followers)
And very easy to unfollow / block them from there.

If you are talking about instagram then dont delete those people it would be a bad idea, when doing business most people mainly look at 2 things 1st amount of followers 2nd your engagement even if your engagement is 20% if you have low amount of followers people might not look twice at you lets take this for example:

Account 1: Followers 10k and you get 350-400 likes a picture which is a good engagement to follower ratio. (3.5 to 5 percent engagement)

Account 2 : 1k followers and each picture gets around 200 likes which is a MASSIVE engagement (20% engagement ratio)

Most people would go with account 1 even if it only gets 300 likes per picture because it looks better with a more massive following.

W9go said:

which platform are you tiling about ?

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oh I see what your asking, yes on instagram

Thenub said:

There's some apps in ios appstore that let you see your worst followers (no engagement followers)
And very easy to unfollow / block them from there.

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oh yeah, thats basically what I'm talking about. any specific apps you're referring to? ill take a look

nomansohail said:

If you are talking about instagram then dont delete those people it would be a bad idea, when doing business most people mainly look at 2 things 1st amount of followers 2nd your engagement even if your engagement is 20% if you have low amount of followers people might not look twice at you lets take this for example:

Account 1: Followers 10k and you get 350-400 likes a picture which is a good engagement to follower ratio. (3.5 to 5 percent engagement)

Account 2 : 1k followers and each picture gets around 200 likes which is a MASSIVE engagement (20% engagement ratio)

Most people would go with account 1 even if it only gets 300 likes per picture because it looks better with a more massive following.

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Interesting, yes this is a good example of exactly what I was referring to. I didn't think about that too much, people mainly looking at # of followers first and foremost giving value to that. I was thinking the level of engagement was something people would really take into account, (which some will) but they won't even bother looking if you have low followers. So I see what you're saying with that.

But let's say if I wasn't in a rush to need to create a huge following for the business then wouldn't it make sense to block those who are unengaged because although it will slow your progress drastically, you will have better engagement levels because of it and you will benefit when you eventually do become very big?

Just thinking of some ideas in my head, perhaps that doesnt really make that much as I first thought it did.

nomansohail said:

If you are talking about instagram then dont delete those people it would be a bad idea, when doing business most people mainly look at 2 things 1st amount of followers 2nd your engagement even if your engagement is 20% if you have low amount of followers people might not look twice at you lets take this for example:

Account 1: Followers 10k and you get 350-400 likes a picture which is a good engagement to follower ratio. (3.5 to 5 percent engagement)

Account 2 : 1k followers and each picture gets around 200 likes which is a MASSIVE engagement (20% engagement ratio)

Most people would go with account 1 even if it only gets 300 likes per picture because it looks better with a more massive following.

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So you're saying when you compare an account with more followers and a higher amount of likes with an account with less followers and a lower amount of likes, people would choose the one with the higher stats? Would've never imagined...

No seriously, let's compare it like this:
1. account: 10k followers / 350 likes
2. account 7k followers / 700 likes

I would go with the 7K account and I think most people would do, too.

Another comparison:
1. account: 70k followers / 2500 likes
2. account: 35k followers / 3400 likes

I'd probably screen them both and if they have mostly the same followers, I'm going to go with the second one.
However if my goal is to just get the name out there, I'm hiring the first one or both.

Yeah FL can block followwers I'm pretty sure.

however blocking them isnt that useful, I guess you want to improve your like ratio?

RegisteredGuest said:

So you're saying when you compare an account with more followers and a higher amount of likes with an account with less followers and a lower amount of likes, people would choose the one with the higher stats? Would've never imagined...

No seriously, let's compare it like this:
1. account: 10k followers / 350 likes
2. account 7k followers / 700 likes

I would go with the 7K account and I think most people would do, too.

Another comparison:
1. account: 70k followers / 2500 likes
2. account: 35k followers / 3400 likes

I'd probably screen them both and if they have mostly the same followers, I'm going to go with the second one.
However if my goal is to just get the name out there, I'm hiring the first one or both.

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yeah I was thinking more along the lines of what you're saying here. Agreed with you on saying if the point is to get the name out there then the first one but I was thinking long term it would be helful for one's image. Does that make sense. You're second comparison is kind of what I'm talking about, would prefer acc 2 to represent myself

onelettershor said:

Yeah FL can block followwers I'm pretty sure.

however blocking them isnt that useful, I guess you want to improve your like ratio?

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Yeah, the goal would be to improve the like ratio. When I say block followers I dont mean blocking randomly. I would only block those who don't contribute to the likes/comments and thus this would benefit my like ratio in a way because I'm decreasing the total number of followers but having the same number of likes (assuming all i blocked didnt like anyways)

do you see what im saying? is it a dumb idea or what?

People use social platforms in waves. Just because someone isn't being active on your page today doesn't mean that they will not be active in the future.

For instance, I haven't used my artists IG in about a year. Why? I haven't been making music: I've been grinding online every waking hour getting my money game up (all the ig work I do is to make money right now)

Once my income is where I want it to be, I will begin making music again/using my artist IG. At that point I'll probably become very active on other artists pages- If they blocked me for my current inactivity they'd be losing in the long term game.

Same thing for your followers. Not everyone that is inactive today will be inactive tomorrow

Make sense?

Euphorix said:

People use social platforms in waves. Just because someone isn't being active on your page today doesn't mean that they will not be active in the future.

For instance, I haven't used my artists IG in about a year. Why? I haven't been making music: I've been grinding online every waking hour getting my money game up (all the ig work I do is to make money right now)

Once my income is where I want it to be, I will begin making music again/using my artist IG. At that point I'll probably become very active on other artists pages- If they blocked me for my current inactivity they'd be losing in the long term game.

Same thing for your followers. Not everyone that is inactive today will be inactive tomorrow

Make sense?

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ahhhhhh yeah that helps a ton. Thanks man, appreciate the input.

Kou7793 said:

yeah I was thinking more along the lines of what you're saying here. Agreed with you on saying if the point is to get the name out there then the first one but I was thinking long term it would be helful for one's image. Does that make sense. You're second comparison is kind of what I'm talking about, would prefer acc 2 to represent myself

Yeah, the goal would be to improve the like ratio. When I say block followers I dont mean blocking randomly. I would only block those who don't contribute to the likes/comments and thus this would benefit my like ratio in a way because I'm decreasing the total number of followers but having the same number of likes (assuming all i blocked didnt like anyways)

do you see what im saying? is it a dumb idea or what?

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I see what you're saying but personally I would never block any follower just because they didn't like something on my page atm.
If they stay a follower, they have a certain interest in whatever it is your offering. Maybe they don't like to give out likes, but still like your stuff. You'll never know.
i.e. I don't do follow for follow on any of my accounts (except fo the spam/boost ones, because they are not here to stay). so the people who only followed me because they want to do the whole f4f thing are going to leave my pages sooner or later. So the ones who stay are those who like my stuff. (sure there are those who didn't recognize I unfollowed or who are inactive. but they are a minority)

RegisteredGuest said:

I see what you're saying but personally I would never block any follower just because they didn't like something on my page atm.
If they stay a follower, they have a certain interest in whatever it is your offering. Maybe they don't like to give out likes, but still like your stuff. You'll never know.
i.e. I don't do follow for follow on any of my accounts (except fo the spam/boost ones, because they are not here to stay). so the people who only followed me because they want to do the whole f4f thing are going to leave my pages sooner or later. So the ones who stay are those who like my stuff. (sure there are those who didn't recognize I unfollowed or who are inactive. but they are a minority)

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some very good points man, thanks. yeah, I still haven't decided how exactly I'll go about it. I'm just considering doing this on my 1 main account that I control manually (that the niche accounts will promote/shoutout) not the accounts I run FL on since it doesnt matter as much for those.

Yeah, on on the main acc I like just about everyone that is a follower at some point (whether they first join or I go back) so I was thinking their lack of reciprocation would be sign of disinterest. But like you said, some people just dont give out likes and may still be interested in the product/service.

All good things to think about. thanks bro

I feel you block inactive followers it would not enhance the engagement of your followers. It will make your account look better by having a more equal ratio of followers:likes.

There are many free apps you can download that finds inactive users.

I know this thread is old but this has come up in my journey. I manage a business account that I have personally grown organically from 7k to 12k, while maintaining 7-10% engagement rate (likes ratio) and 25-30% engagement rate (video view ratio). The account is a local non-profit recreation area, and IG is our channel for sharing our unique photos, as well as pushing our message. This is only to people in a certain geographic region close to our operations. It is not an account that has a direct monetization plan, rather a vehicle in our advertising/marketing mix. The evaluation of our engagement is not being made by prospective clients but rather myself (marketing manager) to determine our effectiveness of messaging/advertising. Down the line potential sponsors might look at our following/engagement to determine their interest in supplying free product/sponsorship, but we are already crushing the other competitors in our niche (mostly in engagement, some in both following and engagement).

I know we have some BS spam followers ("F4F" and "get followers now" type accounts) but we also have real people (typically entrepreneurs like real estate agents and small business) who follow us but follow 3k plus other people. These people appear to be participating in manual F4F type strategy (assumed by the large amount of accounts they follow), but that could be an incorrect assumption. ("when you assume, you make an ass-out of -u-and-me")

What I am wonder is 2 core things:
-Does it make sense to block followers that are clearly not real people (women soliciting sex, accounts trying to sell you follower, spammy meme accounts, etc)? if yes please try and answer the follow up question below.

-Does it make sense to block people who have an extremely high likelihood of not seeing your content, because they follow so many people (thus not being able to like or comment, or they may participating in a non engaging growth strategy)? If yes, is there a threshold that makes them fall into this category (say they follow 3k+ people)?
-What is the risk that you block that "spammy realtor account" and he actually likes and looks at your content? If that likelihood is low enough that the business' identity/brand will not suffer from the occasional unwarranted block?



If the answer was yes to the two above questions, is there a tool that make this process a little less manual. Maybe a way to easily create a CSV file of all the accounts that you want to block, and doing a "bulk blocking". It takes 4 clicks/taps to block someone and one more to return to the list of followers, which is a rather intensive process. not to mention the vetting of each profile.

Thank you for reading this and any thoughts/advise is greatly appreciated. It's a pretty interesting position to be in, and I wonder if anyone has any experiences they could share.

-Ched

Ched,

The best thing that you can do is block all of your ghost followers. Ghost followers are either followers that have been inactive on Instagram for quite some time or followers that are actively content but are disengaged and choose to not like any of your posts.

---- Does it make sense to block followers that are clearly not real people? By this, I assume you mean bot accounts. Usually bot accounts will only follow you for a little while and then shortly after, unfollow you. If they remain following you, more likely than not, they will not like or comment on your posts, they will be considered a ghost- block them, or there are online services that can do it for you.

---- Does it make sense to block people who have an extremely high likelihood of not seeing your content? Instagram's algorithm is engagement based, meaning that even though someone is following 3k + accounts, their feed will only consist of posts that insta's algo thinks they would engage with. Blocking ghost followers will take care of this concern of yours as well. If they are not engaging with your account, they will get blocked and no longer be hurting your engagement rate.

-----What is the risk that you block that "spammy realtor account" and he actually likes and looks at your content? If that likelihood is low enough that the business' identity/brand will not suffer from the occasional unwarranted block? If you use a good tool, it will not accidentally block followers that are actually engaged, which leads me to your last question:

is there a tool that make this process a little less manual?

Yes, there are several out there that can make the process of ghost follower management less manual.

Cleaner App for IG: I tried using this one myself, it's kinda glitchy. The biggest problem: it blocks new followers that haven't even yet had the chance to engage with your recent posts. Also, have heard sometimes it blocks people that are engaged and have been for a while. Glitchy but the benefit, only costs a dollar.
CrowdBabble.com: This is an online service that will give you a list of all of your ghost followers. You have to go in and do all the manual blockage yourself though. Benefit: you can use your own discretion when blocking. Con: Lots of work, $50 for a list
EngagementGenie.com: This is also an online service. It can provide you with just a list of your ghosts, or block them all for you as well. Benefit: it likes the most recent post of all of your ghost followers in an attempt to get them re-engaged with your content. After a few days, it blocks all of the ghosts that remain disengaged.

Interesting was thinking the same thing but decided not to do it after i heard you won't rank well in hashtags.

NH1214 said:

Ched,

The best thing that you can do is block all of your ghost followers. Ghost followers are either followers that have been inactive on Instagram for quite some time or followers that are actively content but are disengaged and choose to not like any of your posts.

---- Does it make sense to block followers that are clearly not real people? By this, I assume you mean bot accounts. Usually bot accounts will only follow you for a little while and then shortly after, unfollow you. If they remain following you, more likely than not, they will not like or comment on your posts, they will be considered a ghost- block them, or there are online services that can do it for you.

---- Does it make sense to block people who have an extremely high likelihood of not seeing your content? Instagram's algorithm is engagement based, meaning that even though someone is following 3k + accounts, their feed will only consist of posts that insta's algo thinks they would engage with. Blocking ghost followers will take care of this concern of yours as well. If they are not engaging with your account, they will get blocked and no longer be hurting your engagement rate.

-----What is the risk that you block that "spammy realtor account" and he actually likes and looks at your content? If that likelihood is low enough that the business' identity/brand will not suffer from the occasional unwarranted block? If you use a good tool, it will not accidentally block followers that are actually engaged, which leads me to your last question:

is there a tool that make this process a little less manual?

Yes, there are several out there that can make the process of ghost follower management less manual.

Cleaner App for IG: I tried using this one myself, it's kinda glitchy. The biggest problem: it blocks new followers that haven't even yet had the chance to engage with your recent posts. Also, have heard sometimes it blocks people that are engaged and have been for a while. Glitchy but the benefit, only costs a dollar.
CrowdBabble.com: This is an online service that will give you a list of all of your ghost followers. You have to go in and do all the manual blockage yourself though. Benefit: you can use your own discretion when blocking. Con: Lots of work, $50 for a list
EngagementGenie.com: This is also an online service. It can provide you with just a list of your ghosts, or block them all for you as well. Benefit: it likes the most recent post of all of your ghost followers in an attempt to get them re-engaged with your content. After a few days, it blocks all of the ghosts that remain disengaged.

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Thank you for the info. It verified what I was thinking. I appreciate your list of resources for accomplishing the task. Going to look into them and see if I can start this long process.

-Ched

debece said:

Interesting was thinking the same thing but decided not to do it after i heard you won't rank well in hashtags.

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Reviving this thread once again... Debece, can you further explain your statement and where you saw this info/read up on it. I was unaware that blocking accounts limits your hashtag performance/ranking, but I am definitely interested in learning more.