Blackhatters: Don't you feel bad?

To those of you blackhatters out there, don't you feel bad about what you're doing?
I'm not talking about you SEO blackhats. What you guys do is nothing. Search engines aren't losing money because of you and you're not really hurting anyone. I'm talking to the guys who cheat the system for personal gain while there's someone left holding the shitbag you've created.

I've been thinking all day about ways to make my money making methods more profitable and I've come up with some terribly blackhat ideas. I'm loving how they could make me a ton of money, but I can't help but think about the people I'm kinda stealing from and the people I'm kinda fucking over. How do you deal with it?

dont cross whatever moral line you have???

i have a method which is making me a lot of money, but it's really black black hat, and my conscience is telling me it's not right, but i just can't get rid of it, it's easy and profitable
i think once i gather enough money to invest into some good longterm whitehat idea, that i'll be strong enough to leave this currect blackhat which is hurting others (stupid, naive people).

Only the strong survive! Here's what you can do. You can give me those terribly blackhat ideas and I'll make the ton of money. Next, I split the profits with you and you feel no guilt

iimpact said:

i have a method which is making me a lot of money, but it's really black black hat, and my conscience is telling me it's not right, but i just can't get rid of it, it's easy and profitable
i think once i gather enough money to invest into some good longterm whitehat idea, that i'll be strong enough to leave this currect blackhat which is hurting others (stupid, naive people).

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Lol I'm on the same boat dude... my method isnt super super blackhat but its not benefiting the world lets put it that way.

If I felt that bad about something, I wouldn't do it.

Not everyone who does BH makes their money doing shady stuff.

SleepieGirl said:

dont cross whatever moral line you have???

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Exactly! . . . We all have our moral limits - a line that we will or will not cross.

It's up to you as to what restrictions you wish to impose on yourself.

Personally speaking, I will not involve myself in attempting to bank
from tragedy (natural disasters, celebrity deaths, phony charities, etc).

That being said, I don't mind gaming Google, Social Media, and other
huge corporate enterprises.

Cheers! - "Wiz"

cashcrateaddict said:

To those of you blackhatters out there, don't you feel bad about what you're doing?

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Yes now I think about it you are right. I am going to quit IM and go back to my shitty minimum wage warehouse job where I get talked to like I am a worthless little wankstain. Yes as you can see, I feel real bad.

If you have ideas or methods that your moral don't let you do send me via pm maybe i'll try them

cashcrateaddict said:

I'm loving how they could make me a ton of money, but I can't help but think about the people I'm kinda stealing from and the people I'm kinda fucking over. How do you deal with it?

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Start taking heroin, people who take heroin loose all feelings and morals.

it is because is more easy to do the shady stuff and pay quicker than the white hat stuff
and personally i don't like to do shady stuff, first what the rush? second: i don't find it very amusing to just take someone else hard work
unless they make a direct threat to my work, i am in safe mode

Those who aren't smart enough to hold on to their money don't deserve to have that money.

but if you don't subscribe to this philosophy as mickyfu pointed out there're other alternatives

I used to work as a casino affiliate. I made a small fortune persuading (probably quite dumb) people to gamble their money away. The casinos loved me and I had countless meetings with them where they'd try and make my advertising convert better and tell me things like, 'hey, can you send traffic to this casino this week because there's a stricter minimum bet policy and it will be much harder for them to withdraw their money'.. After the money was coming in like clockwork I barely had to work anymore and spent most of my time lounging around in 5* hotels around the world or in stylish apartments I'd rented, drinking too much and smoking too much and generally living a rather 'playboy' life style..

I'd thought it was slightly immoral to work in gambling (especially in the way I would persuade people) when I started out but I was HUNGRY for the cash and I thought that it was just part of life .. after a while making good money I became pretty disillusioned with my life style and started to look at the world in a different way.. after having a sort of 'wtf is going on' moment when I realized I'd created a situation where I was living like some sort of deranged, spoilt playboy and that the only thing funding this lifestyle were people losing their money because they'd been persuaded to gamble I knew I had to turn it around..

But it took a good long while for me to actually make this change. Now I'm much happier though, I work strictly in SEO and gave up PPC gambling marketing about 2 years ago. I feel happier because my websites actually bring value to people that are searching for things and my money is made in a 'legitimate' way.

It's often hard to look past the money when you're making bank, I didn't really feel that bad to be honest, it took a real 'wtf am I doing' moment, probably caused by a ridiculous lifestyle that made me re-think things, I'm glad it happened though because not only has it made me run my business in a different way, it's also changed my entire outlook on life..

I started internet marketing to become filthy rich... that was my only aim..

Now my only aim is to make the world a better place and thankfully I've got a great skill set in online marketing and SEO that I can use to generate the money to do that. Guess what I'm saying is that my drive for money in the beginning has put me in a better position to help others now - but there was a good few years when I was probably doing more harm than good, and I try and correct that every day..

Domo_18895 said:

Those who aren't smart enough to hold on to their money don't deserve to have that money.

but if you don't subscribe to this philosophy as mickyfu pointed out there're other alternatives

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Completely agree with you, fools are easily parted with their money, you may as well cash in on them, if you don't someone else will, they will inevitably loose the money either to you or someone who simply does not care about moral.

I think that the BH line ends where you start hurting others, meanwhile you hurt no one it's still goo enough

1 lesson should be told
i don't care how faster u can write, how much languages u know, because out there, there is always some 1 better, some1 that doesnt show him self, i am sure there is bunch of them in BHW, they don't write comments, or threads, only very seldom, they dont go after the big fishies
and if u chose the black path, sooner or later u will meet them, and it wont be fun to meet them

cashcrateaddict said:

To those of you blackhatters out there, don't you feel bad about what you're doing?
I'm not talking about you SEO blackhats. What you guys do is nothing. Search engines aren't losing money because of you and you're not really hurting anyone. I'm talking to the guys who cheat the system for personal gain while there's someone left holding the shitbag you've created.

I've been thinking all day about ways to make my money making methods more profitable and I've come up with some terribly blackhat ideas. I'm loving how they could make me a ton of money, but I can't help but think about the people I'm kinda stealing from and the people I'm kinda fucking over. How do you deal with it?

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I made a small fortune in email marketing years ago, and nearly every bit of it was at the expense of other people. I honestly couldn't stand myself by the time the Feds came knocking at my door, but I rationalized it by simply telling myself that it was purely for entertainment, and those who gave me money should have known better. "There's a sucker born every minute, and I want to find him," I used to tell people.

This wasn't who I truly was, though. I am, and was then, a good person at heart. But my heart was crushed by a girl when I was just a child, and the ensuring shitstorm left a frail, desperate, morally challenged shell of a person in its place.

I've lost every penny of that small fortune I made (I consider it my pennance), and every day I thank whatever God is listening that I appreciate him giving me another chance in life to make amends for my deplorable actions, and from here on out I'm trying to make the world a better place.

As long as entities such as Insurance companies are allowed to go on doing what they are doing, I am %100 fine to work over Google, and other corporations. I won't actually take or steal money from real people, unless I genuinely provide something for them.