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Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by mercury01, Aug 19, 2014.

  1. mercury01

    mercury01 Newbie

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    user Black Hat Expert promise me a verified paypal with withdraw option for 400 USD we agree that i pay him 350 USD and after i recive the paypal another 50$ but he lied to me for 2 weeks but in the last 4 days he dosent answer on skype.

    proof of payment http://postimg.org/image/qreo8d8sd/

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    [8/2/2014 5:13:09 PM] mercury1: hello[8/2/2014 5:44:10 PM] BlackHatExpert: Hello
    [8/2/2014 5:44:15 PM] BlackHatExpert: How can i help you?
    [8/2/2014 5:45:56 PM] mercury1: hi
    [8/2/2014 5:46:12 PM] BlackHatExpert: Yes
    [8/2/2014 5:46:19 PM] mercury1: i need a paypal account with high reciving limits
    [8/2/2014 5:46:31 PM] mercury1: i mean i`m an ebay seller
    [8/2/2014 5:46:32 PM] BlackHatExpert: What services do you need?
    [8/2/2014 5:46:52 PM] mercury1: and sell items of high value
    [8/2/2014 5:47:00 PM] BlackHatExpert: I can give you?
    [8/2/2014 5:47:10 PM] BlackHatExpert: Do you want on your name?
    [8/2/2014 5:47:11 PM] mercury1: i need a paypal account that can recive amounts over 10 k GBP
    [8/2/2014 5:48:09 PM] mercury1: i`m a legit seller on ebay
    [8/2/2014 5:48:20 PM] mercury1: the money are clean , not fraud or somthing like that
    [8/2/2014 5:48:45 PM] mercury1: not really
    [8/2/2014 5:48:59 PM] BlackHatExpert: Do you want sending limit or receiving limit
    [8/2/2014 5:49:13 PM] mercury1: reciving limits
    [8/2/2014 5:49:29 PM] mercury1: my buyers will pay me large amounts , over 10k GBp
    [8/2/2014 5:49:29 PM] BlackHatExpert: It costs you $ 150
    [8/2/2014 5:49:36 PM] mercury1: oke no problem
    [8/2/2014 5:49:48 PM] mercury1: but how i will withdraw money from`it ?
    [8/2/2014 5:50:04 PM] BlackHatExpert: We need 3 days time to get the account
    [8/2/2014 5:50:37 PM] BlackHatExpert: If you want withdrawl we will sell you real bank accounts
    [8/2/2014 5:50:51 PM] BlackHatExpert: It will be delivered to your house
    [8/2/2014 5:51:00 PM] BlackHatExpert: Atm card will be delivered
    [8/2/2014 5:52:06 PM] BlackHatExpert: The bank account costs  $250 if you just want verified paypal only it costs :150
    [8/2/2014 5:52:18 PM] mercury1: i need both
    [8/2/2014 5:52:31 PM] mercury1: verified paypal with withdraw option
    [8/2/2014 5:52:56 PM] BlackHatExpert: You will get paypal in 3 days and bank account with in 7 days
    [8/2/2014 5:53:04 PM] BlackHatExpert: Dhl shipping
    [8/2/2014 5:53:18 PM] BlackHatExpert: Total cost is $400
    [8/2/2014 5:53:39 PM] mercury1: good price
    [8/2/2014 5:53:48 PM] mercury1: tell me somthing please
    [8/2/2014 5:54:29 PM] mercury1: so far i know by a new paypal account , if i recive over 1900 GBP the paypal will get limited
    [8/2/2014 5:54:39 PM] BlackHatExpert: Sorry to say that we have to pay for real bank accounts and you can withdraw funds
    [8/2/2014 5:54:44 PM] mercury1: can you guarantee me the paypal will not get limited ?
    [8/2/2014 5:54:51 PM] BlackHatExpert: We will give you a guide
    [8/2/2014 5:55:06 PM] BlackHatExpert: And we will inform paypal before only about this
    [8/2/2014 5:55:16 PM] BlackHatExpert: We will send all proofs also
    [8/2/2014 5:55:25 PM] BlackHatExpert: You wont get any problem
    [8/2/2014 5:55:41 PM] BlackHatExpert: We guarantee that
    [8/2/2014 5:55:55 PM] mercury1: that good
    [8/2/2014 5:56:09 PM] mercury1: i`m a watch dealer on ebay
    [8/2/2014 5:56:18 PM] BlackHatExpert: Oh good
    [8/2/2014 5:56:50 PM] mercury1: and can`t afford to keep 15-20 K GBP for 180 on a paypal
    [8/2/2014 5:57:11 PM] BlackHatExpert: It wont happen like that
    [8/2/2014 5:57:26 PM] BlackHatExpert: We have very good experience in this
    [8/2/2014 5:57:36 PM] BlackHatExpert: You wont get any problem
    [8/2/2014 5:58:26 PM] mercury1: the paypal will be UK right ?
    [8/2/2014 5:58:43 PM] mercury1: and what is my daily ATM withdraw limit with your card ?
    [8/2/2014 5:58:58 PM] BlackHatExpert: We provide usa paypal and uk paypal depends on your requirement
    [8/2/2014 5:59:25 PM] BlackHatExpert: 5000 USD
    [8/2/2014 5:59:44 PM] BlackHatExpert: If you want we can increase this
    [8/2/2014 5:59:58 PM] BlackHatExpert: By requesting bank
    [8/2/2014 6:00:04 PM] mercury1: i see
    [8/2/2014 6:00:24 PM] mercury1: give me please few days to think about that
    [8/2/2014 6:00:41 PM] mercury1: i have another offer from sombody
    [8/2/2014 6:00:49 PM] mercury1: but i`m sure ill buy from you too
    [8/2/2014 6:01:00 PM] BlackHatExpert: Sure you can take your time
    [8/2/2014 6:01:34 PM] BlackHatExpert: But please do remember that in future if you have any problems by chance we    Will help you immediately
    [8/2/2014 6:02:09 PM] mercury1: can you ship outside UK ?
    [8/2/2014 6:02:27 PM] BlackHatExpert: As we are highly reputed and trusted in bhw
    [8/2/2014 6:02:38 PM] BlackHatExpert: Where do you stay
    [8/2/2014 6:02:42 PM] BlackHatExpert: ?
    [8/2/2014 6:02:51 PM] BlackHatExpert: We can ship all over the world
    [8/2/2014 6:02:56 PM] mercury1: that fine
    [8/2/2014 6:03:18 PM] mercury1: i`m in Romania for the next 3 month, my husband lives here
    [8/2/2014 6:03:24 PM] BlackHatExpert: Is it possible to add usa paypal to your ebay account
    [8/2/2014 6:03:36 PM] BlackHatExpert: ?
    [8/2/2014 6:03:48 PM] mercury1: i`m a uk citizen and dont have US ebay account
    [8/2/2014 6:03:57 PM] BlackHatExpert: Oh ic
    [8/2/2014 6:04:15 PM] BlackHatExpert: We just need address and we will ship
    [8/2/2014 6:04:30 PM] BlackHatExpert: May i know when you are going to buy
    [8/2/2014 6:04:41 PM] mercury1: next week for sure
    [8/2/2014 6:05:02 PM] mercury1: and what payment option do you accept ?
    [8/2/2014 6:05:16 PM] BlackHatExpert: Paypal
    [8/2/2014 6:05:27 PM] mercury1: Perfect Money ?
    [8/2/2014 6:06:04 PM] BlackHatExpert: No we accept paypal or skrill or western union
    [8/2/2014 6:06:13 PM] mercury1: ohh that to bad ;(
    [8/2/2014 6:06:27 PM] mercury1: i have over 700 USD in perfect money
    [8/2/2014 6:06:35 PM] BlackHatExpert: You dont have that payment methods
    [8/2/2014 6:06:42 PM] BlackHatExpert: ?
    [8/2/2014 6:06:46 PM] mercury1: no
    [8/2/2014 6:06:52 PM] BlackHatExpert: What about neteller
    [8/2/2014 6:06:55 PM] BlackHatExpert: ?
    [8/2/2014 6:07:02 PM] mercury1: nop :(
    [8/2/2014 6:07:28 PM] BlackHatExpert: Ok if you can confirm we will try to create account in perfect money
    [8/2/2014 6:07:36 PM] mercury1: that great
    [8/2/2014 6:07:41 PM] mercury1: thank you for your time and answers
    [8/2/2014 6:08:02 PM] mercury1: ill get back to you next week
    [8/2/2014 6:08:05 PM] mercury1: bye bye
    [8/2/2014 6:08:37 PM] BlackHatExpert: Sure
    [8/2/2014 6:08:39 PM] BlackHatExpert: Bye
    [8/6/2014 3:28:23 AM] mercury1: Hello
    [8/6/2014 3:28:28 AM] mercury1: you there/
    [8/6/2014 3:28:29 AM] mercury1: ?
    [8/6/2014 2:01:48 PM] BlackHatExpert: yes
    [8/6/2014 2:01:54 PM] BlackHatExpert: how can i help you
    [8/6/2014 2:01:55 PM] BlackHatExpert: ?
    [8/6/2014 3:56:28 PM] mercury1: need paypal accont
    [8/6/2014 3:56:43 PM] mercury1: verifyed with lifted limits and 21 days free hold
    [8/6/2014 7:56:19 PM] BlackHatExpert: Hello
    [8/6/2014 7:56:38 PM] BlackHatExpert: we dont have ready made accounts
    [8/6/2014 7:56:59 PM] BlackHatExpert: we need some to make and get it fully verified
    [8/6/2014 8:09:16 PM] mercury1: i see
    [8/6/2014 8:09:41 PM] mercury1: can you make them fully verified , lifted limites and 21 days free hold ?
    [8/6/2014 8:10:40 PM] BlackHatExpert: yes
    [8/6/2014 8:11:18 PM] mercury1: what are my withdraw options?
    [8/6/2014 8:14:10 PM] BlackHatExpert: you have to buy a paypal account attached with real usa bank account
    [8/6/2014 8:14:23 PM] BlackHatExpert: we will courier you the bank account information
    [8/6/2014 8:14:39 PM] BlackHatExpert: and atm card to the address you provide
    [8/6/2014 8:14:46 PM] mercury1: isee
    [8/6/2014 8:14:56 PM] mercury1: what the price for such a paypal account ?
    [8/6/2014 8:16:13 PM] BlackHatExpert: we discussed this before..its $400
    [8/6/2014 8:16:45 PM] mercury1: so much ?
    [8/6/2014 8:16:54 PM] mercury1: ast time you told me $300
    [8/6/2014 8:17:12 PM] mercury1: and dont think we discuss before
    [8/6/2014 8:17:27 PM] BlackHatExpert: i need both
    [8/2/2014 7:52:35 AM] mercury1: verified paypal with withdraw option
    [8/2/2014 7:53:00 AM] BlackHatExpert: You will get paypal in 3 days and bank account with in 7 days
    [8/2/2014 7:53:08 AM] BlackHatExpert: Dhl shipping
    [8/2/2014 7:53:22 AM] BlackHatExpert: Total cost is $400
    [8/2/2014 7:53:43 AM] mercury1: good price
    [8/2/2014 7:53:52 AM] mercury1: tell me somthing please
    [8/2/2014 7:54:33 AM] mercury1: so far i know by a new paypal account , if i recive over 1900 GBP the paypal will get limited
    [8/2/2014 7:54:43 AM] BlackHatExpert: Sorry to say that we have to pay for real bank accounts and you can withdraw funds
    [8/2/2014 7:54:48 AM] mercury1: can you guarantee me the paypal will not get limited ?
    [8/2/2014 7:54:55 AM] BlackHatExpert: We will give you a guide
    [8/2/2014 7:55:10 AM] BlackHatExpert: And we will inform paypal before only about this
    [8/2/2014 7:55:20 AM] BlackHatExpert: We will send all proofs also
    [8/2/2014 7:55:29 AM] BlackHatExpert: You wont get any problem
    [8/2/2014 7:55:45 AM] BlackHatExpert: We guarantee that
    [8/2/2014 7:55:59 AM] mercury1: that good
    [8/2/2014 7:56:13 AM] mercury1: i`m a watch dealer on ebay
    [8/2/2014 7:56:22 AM] BlackHatExpert: Oh good
    [8/6/2014 8:17:44 PM] BlackHatExpert: we discussed before
    [8/6/2014 8:18:10 PM] BlackHatExpert: [8/2/2014 8:04:34 AM] BlackHatExpert: May i know when you are going to buy
    [8/2/2014 8:04:45 AM] mercury1: next week for sure
    [8/2/2014 8:05:06 AM] mercury1: and what payment option do you accept ?
    [8/2/2014 8:05:20 AM] BlackHatExpert: Paypal
    [8/2/2014 8:05:31 AM] mercury1: Perfect Money ?
    [8/2/2014 8:06:08 AM] BlackHatExpert: No we accept paypal or skrill or western union
    [8/2/2014 8:06:17 AM] mercury1: ohh that to bad ;(
    [8/2/2014 8:06:31 AM] mercury1: i have over 700 USD in perfect money
    [8/6/2014 8:18:33 PM] BlackHatExpert: you said you will buy and i think you forgot
    [8/6/2014 8:18:36 PM] mercury1: oh sorry
    [8/6/2014 8:18:39 PM] BlackHatExpert: this is our chat
    [8/6/2014 8:18:45 PM] mercury1: yeah i forgot
    [8/6/2014 8:18:59 PM] mercury1: what about the 21 days hold ?
    [8/6/2014 8:20:32 PM] BlackHatExpert: you wont get any problem,as we provide all proofs they wont hold the account.
    [8/6/2014 8:20:49 PM] BlackHatExpert: we have a great team who can create id proofs so if paypal asks for any kind of id proof
    [8/6/2014 8:20:56 PM] BlackHatExpert: we may able to provide
    [8/6/2014 8:21:14 PM] mercury1: i understand
    [8/6/2014 8:21:28 PM] mercury1: but betterto avoid this 21 days hold
    [8/6/2014 8:22:40 PM] BlackHatExpert: you wont get any problem,we guarantee this.if you have any problems we ofefr 30 days money back guarantee.just return the account and we will refund you
    [8/6/2014 8:22:50 PM] mercury1: oke
    [8/6/2014 8:22:54 PM] mercury1: there is only 1 problem
    [8/6/2014 8:23:05 PM] mercury1: i have only Perfect Money
    [8/6/2014 8:23:26 PM] mercury1: sombody advised me to exchange to perfect money my cash
    [8/6/2014 8:23:33 PM] mercury1: :(
    [8/6/2014 8:24:28 PM] BlackHatExpert: is perfect money good like paypal
    [8/6/2014 8:24:50 PM] BlackHatExpert: if you are inetersted in ordering i will create account there
    [8/6/2014 8:31:29 PM] mercury1: i`m
    [8/6/2014 8:31:32 PM] mercury1: tell me please
    [8/6/2014 8:31:49 PM] mercury1: what its the daily withdraw limit by ATM with this card?
    [8/6/2014 8:37:02 PM] *** BlackHatExpert sent paypal vcc solutions 1.jpg ***
    [8/6/2014 8:38:44 PM] mercury1: i mean the debit card that i recive from you
    [8/6/2014 8:38:52 PM] mercury1: what is the daily withdraw limit from ATM /
    [8/6/2014 8:38:53 PM] mercury1: ?
    [8/6/2014 8:39:10 PM] BlackHatExpert: up to 5000 usd
    [8/6/2014 8:39:17 PM] BlackHatExpert: sorry i forgot to include in that
    [8/6/2014 8:39:28 PM] BlackHatExpert: we thought of offering our service
    [8/6/2014 8:39:32 PM] BlackHatExpert: and designing that
    [8/6/2014 8:39:37 PM] mercury1: :)
    [8/6/2014 8:39:48 PM | Edited 8:40:04 PM] BlackHatExpert: if you need more we will talk to our bank and
    [8/6/2014 8:39:56 PM] BlackHatExpert: we will try to increase the limit
    [8/6/2014 8:40:10 PM] mercury1: i see
    [8/6/2014 8:40:15 PM] mercury1: that very high limit
    [8/6/2014 8:40:20 PM] BlackHatExpert: yes
    [8/6/2014 8:40:22 PM] mercury1: very good
    [8/6/2014 8:40:29 PM] mercury1: its a payoneer card ?
    [8/6/2014 8:40:35 PM] BlackHatExpert: but you said you will do bigger transactions
    [8/6/2014 8:40:37 PM] BlackHatExpert: noo
    [8/6/2014 8:40:43 PM] mercury1: yes
    [8/6/2014 8:40:48 PM] BlackHatExpert: its a real usa bank account
    [8/6/2014 8:40:52 PM] mercury1: i will recive payments up to 15 k GBP
    [8/6/2014 8:41:10 PM] BlackHatExpert: what watches do you sell on ebay
    [8/6/2014 8:41:16 PM] BlackHatExpert: are you dealer
    [8/6/2014 8:41:50 PM] mercury1: yes
    [8/6/2014 8:41:56 PM] BlackHatExpert: what details do i need to give in perfect money to receive payment
    [8/6/2014 8:42:00 PM] mercury1: Audemars piguest royal oak offshore
    [8/6/2014 8:42:06 PM] mercury1: rolex
    [8/6/2014 8:42:09 PM] mercury1: patek phillipe
    [8/6/2014 8:42:20 PM] mercury1: ony the account nimber in USD
    [8/6/2014 8:42:39 PM] BlackHatExpert: ok let me check
    [8/6/2014 8:43:14 PM] mercury1: i have only 360 USD in my perfect money account
    [8/6/2014 8:43:26 PM] mercury1: because yesterday i have payd sombody
    [8/6/2014 8:43:33 PM] mercury1: and i think he ripp me off
    [8/6/2014 8:43:40 PM] BlackHatExpert: oh
    [8/6/2014 8:43:43 PM] BlackHatExpert: what he did
    [8/6/2014 8:43:45 PM] BlackHatExpert: ?
    [8/6/2014 8:44:40 PM] mercury1: he ask  me to pay
    [8/6/2014 8:44:41 PM] mercury1: i payd
    [8/6/2014 8:44:44 PM] mercury1: and hes gone
    [8/6/2014 8:44:46 PM] mercury1: give me nothing
    [8/6/2014 8:44:47 PM] mercury1: :(
    [8/6/2014 8:44:54 PM] BlackHatExpert: lol
    [8/6/2014 8:44:57 PM] mercury1: that why i ask now so many questions
    [8/6/2014 8:45:08 PM] mercury1: i`m a very serior buyer
    [8/6/2014 8:45:18 PM] BlackHatExpert: we are reputed in so many forums
    [8/6/2014 8:46:29 PM] mercury1: do you know where i can report this ripper ?
    [8/6/2014 8:46:35 PM] mercury1: hes from BHW
    [8/6/2014 8:47:03 PM] BlackHatExpert: yes
    [8/6/2014 8:47:08 PM] BlackHatExpert: give me some time
    [8/6/2014 8:47:24 PM] BlackHatExpert: i will give id and i wil guide you a place
    [8/6/2014 8:47:29 PM] BlackHatExpert: to report this guy
    [8/6/2014 8:47:36 PM] mercury1: oke thank you very much
    [8/6/2014 8:47:53 PM] mercury1: i will see how i put another $40 to buy the paypal
    [8/6/2014 8:47:58 PM] BlackHatExpert: he will be banned from forum if he did not refunded you
    [8/6/2014 8:48:13 PM] mercury1: hes a recently registred guy
    [8/6/2014 8:48:20 PM] mercury1: i dont think he care he will be banned
    [8/6/2014 8:48:21 PM] mercury1: :))
    [8/6/2014 8:48:25 PM] mercury1: i was stupid
    [8/6/2014 8:48:36 PM] BlackHatExpert: 1 min
    [8/6/2014 8:50:28 PM] mercury1: brb 30 min
    [8/6/2014 9:21:36 PM] BlackHatExpert: U8440622
    [8/6/2014 9:21:42 PM] BlackHatExpert: here is the id for usd
    [8/7/2014 6:57:59 AM] mercury1: hello
    [8/7/2014 6:58:03 AM] mercury1: you there ?
    [8/7/2014 6:58:10 AM] BlackHatExpert: yes
    [8/7/2014 6:58:14 AM] mercury1: so
    [8/7/2014 6:58:14 AM] BlackHatExpert: Hello
    [8/7/2014 6:58:29 AM] mercury1: can you accept $350 for the paypal accout ?
    [8/7/2014 6:58:42 AM] mercury1: that its all what i have in perfect money
    [8/7/2014 6:59:08 AM] BlackHatExpert: ok,when i give you paypal account can you pay the remaining money
    [8/7/2014 6:59:09 AM] BlackHatExpert: ?
    [8/7/2014 6:59:33 AM] mercury1: in few days i can pay you the remaining $50
    [8/7/2014 6:59:38 AM] mercury1: no problem
    [8/7/2014 6:59:54 AM] BlackHatExpert: o.k
    [8/7/2014 6:59:59 AM] mercury1: but if you want we can wait 1-2 days an pay you $400
    [8/7/2014 7:00:50 AM] BlackHatExpert: thats not a problem you an pay later but make sure that you will send
    [8/7/2014 7:01:12 AM] mercury1: ok no problem
    [8/7/2014 7:01:18 AM] mercury1: i have your PM account
    [8/7/2014 7:01:32 AM] mercury1: i will come later with an adress where you can mail me the card
    [8/7/2014 7:01:40 AM] BlackHatExpert: ok
    [8/7/2014 7:02:16 AM] BlackHatExpert: i dont know what info to give you.when i logged n to my pm account i have seen that id for usd
    [8/7/2014 7:02:27 AM] mercury1: that oke
    [8/7/2014 7:02:38 AM] mercury1: the usd id is the account number
    [8/7/2014 7:03:19 AM] mercury1: can you mail the card to Romani , near to bucharest ?
    [8/7/2014 7:03:27 AM] mercury1: Romania
    [8/7/2014 7:05:56 AM] BlackHatExpert: we can courier to any place in the world.give exact details so that you wont miss the card
    [8/7/2014 7:06:06 AM] mercury1: oke
    [8/7/2014 7:06:18 AM] mercury1: ill come later with adress and payment
    [8/7/2014 7:06:24 AM] mercury1: i go to sleep now
    [8/7/2014 7:06:35 AM] mercury1: is 6 AM here
    [8/7/2014 7:06:41 AM] mercury1: thank you very much
    [8/7/2014 7:06:49 AM] mercury1: talk to you later
    [8/7/2014 7:06:50 AM] mercury1: bye bye
    [8/7/2014 7:06:53 AM] BlackHatExpert: sure
    [8/7/2014 2:12:26 PM] mercury1: hi
    [8/7/2014 2:12:28 PM] mercury1: you there/
    [8/7/2014 2:12:28 PM] mercury1: ?
    [8/7/2014 2:44:12 PM] mercury1: answer please so we can complete the deal
    [8/7/2014 4:52:30 PM] BlackHatExpert: yes
    [8/7/2014 4:52:32 PM] BlackHatExpert: I'm here
    [8/7/2014 4:52:40 PM] BlackHatExpert: i was away sorry for that
    [8/7/2014 6:00:05 PM] mercury1: still there?
    [8/7/2014 6:06:36 PM] mercury1: Hello
    [8/7/2014 7:32:09 PM] BlackHatExpert: yes
    [8/7/2014 7:32:25 PM] BlackHatExpert: sorry we have some work and we are not seeing the skype messages
    [8/7/2014 7:32:34 PM] mercury1: :)
    [8/7/2014 7:32:55 PM] mercury1: could you please give me Teamviwer to see how you login in the paypal ?
    [8/7/2014 7:33:02 PM] mercury1: hope i do not ask to much
    [8/7/2014 7:33:24 PM] BlackHatExpert: we use hma vpn
    [8/7/2014 7:33:49 PM] BlackHatExpert: we will tell the exact place where the paypal is registered and you can use the same to log in
    [8/7/2014 7:33:59 PM] BlackHatExpert: you have to buy hma subscription
    [8/7/2014 7:34:11 PM] BlackHatExpert: and ofcourse its in our guide
    [8/7/2014 7:34:20 PM] mercury1: no you dont uderstand me
    [8/7/2014 7:34:48 PM] mercury1: i mean if you could give me teamviwer so i can see how you login from your computer to the paypal
    [8/7/2014 7:34:52 PM] mercury1: dont get me wrong
    [8/7/2014 7:35:12 PM] mercury1: but i have to be 100% sure i get the account after i have payed
    [8/7/2014 7:35:35 PM] mercury1: i apologize fir that
    [8/7/2014 7:35:50 PM] mercury1: but just 5 min ago another guy tryed to scam me for 300 usd
    [8/7/2014 7:36:28 PM] BlackHatExpert: no problem but we dnt have accounts in stock but
    [8/7/2014 7:36:29 PM] BlackHatExpert: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/152809-black-hat-expert.html
    [8/7/2014 7:36:31 PM] mercury1: i ask him for teamviwe and he tells me that he trave around and cant give me teamviwer
    [8/7/2014 7:36:54 PM] BlackHatExpert: this is my idwe are in bhw from so many years and we dont scam you
    [8/7/2014 7:37:32 PM] mercury1: but its takes only 2 min
    [8/7/2014 7:37:46 PM] BlackHatExpert: what do you need exactly
    [8/7/2014 7:37:48 PM] mercury1: could you please tell me where i can report ths 2 guys
    [8/7/2014 7:37:49 PM] BlackHatExpert: ?
    [8/7/2014 7:37:53 PM] mercury1: teamviwer
    [8/7/2014 7:38:12 PM] BlackHatExpert: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/f31-shit-list/
    [8/7/2014 7:38:19 PM] BlackHatExpert: here you can report
    [8/7/2014 7:38:20 PM] mercury1: yeah i just saw that
    [8/7/2014 7:38:22 PM] mercury1: cant belive that
    [8/7/2014 7:38:33 PM] mercury1: sombody ban me
    [8/7/2014 7:38:40 PM] mercury1: what the hell is wrong with all ppl
    [8/7/2014 7:38:41 PM] mercury1: :((
    [8/7/2014 7:38:53 PM] BlackHatExpert: where moderators will resolve the issues
    [8/7/2014 7:39:07 PM] mercury1: ok
    [8/7/2014 7:39:13 PM] mercury1: i make payment right now
    [8/7/2014 7:39:20 PM] mercury1: when i recive the paypal ?
    [8/7/2014 7:39:58 PM] BlackHatExpert: you will get account in 3-4 working days..please keep in mind that sunday is a holiday and you will receive bank account in 7 days
    [8/7/2014 7:40:02 PM] BlackHatExpert: dhl shipping
    [8/7/2014 7:40:17 PM] mercury1: oke
    [8/7/2014 7:42:44 PM] mercury1: hw can that happen?
    [8/7/2014 7:42:47 PM] mercury1: i just got banned
    [8/7/2014 7:42:49 PM] mercury1: OMG
    [8/7/2014 7:42:54 PM] mercury1: reason is SCAMMER
    [8/7/2014 7:42:55 PM] mercury1: OMG
    [8/7/2014 7:42:56 PM] mercury1: :((
    [8/7/2014 7:43:15 PM] BlackHatExpert: how is this happened
    [8/7/2014 7:43:33 PM] mercury1: thos 2 guys that tryed to scam me talks shit about me
    [8/7/2014 7:43:39 PM] mercury1: i have prove how they tryed to scam me
    [8/7/2014 7:44:08 PM] mercury1: the first wanted to sell me another person paypal account and ask me to change password and security question
    [8/7/2014 7:44:39 PM] mercury1: and the second told me that he travel around and he carry around 5 debit cards
    [8/7/2014 7:44:45 PM] mercury1: i asked him to give me teamviwer
    [8/7/2014 7:44:52 PM] mercury1: and he told me hes on the phone
    [8/7/2014 7:44:59 PM] mercury1: and he travel around
    [8/7/2014 7:45:12 PM] mercury1: and when i asked him how he would mail the debit card to me
    [8/7/2014 7:45:18 PM] BlackHatExpert: o.k
    [8/7/2014 7:45:29 PM] mercury1: he tolds me that he its in hes poket
    [8/7/2014 7:45:31 PM] BlackHatExpert: but you have see the profiles
    [8/7/2014 7:45:46 PM] BlackHatExpert: and trust and you should not trust new members mostly
    [8/7/2014 7:46:26 PM] mercury1: man
    [8/7/2014 7:46:29 PM] mercury1: how they can ban me
    [8/7/2014 7:46:30 PM] mercury1: :((
    [8/7/2014 7:46:54 PM] BlackHatExpert: first moderator have sent you a message i think you might have responded that time
    [8/7/2014 7:47:00 PM] BlackHatExpert: else you will be banned
    [8/7/2014 7:47:08 PM] mercury1: i think 10 ppl tryed allready to scam me after i post to secndeye thread
    [8/7/2014 7:47:11 PM] mercury1: no
    [8/7/2014 7:47:11 PM] BlackHatExpert: send all the proofs to moderator from new account
    [8/7/2014 7:47:19 PM] mercury1: i didnt recive any message
    [8/7/2014 7:47:20 PM] mercury1: :(
    [8/7/2014 7:47:27 PM] BlackHatExpert: oh ic
    [8/7/2014 7:47:48 PM] mercury1: i just try to buy from a honest guy with my money and ill get banned
    [8/7/2014 7:48:04 PM] mercury1: in the first i have recived a message to be carfull about scams
    [8/7/2014 7:48:27 PM] BlackHatExpert: we are good here in bhw from years and we have offline business to we never forced you to order from us and we guarantee refund too if you or not satisfied
    [8/7/2014 7:48:48 PM] BlackHatExpert: and its your wish to trust and buy from me
    [8/7/2014 7:54:52 PM] mercury1: oke
    [8/7/2014 7:55:02 PM] mercury1: give me 5 min to send the proofs
    [8/7/2014 7:55:14 PM] BlackHatExpert: which proofs
    [8/7/2014 8:15:04 PM] mercury1: my messages
    [8/7/2014 8:15:10 PM] mercury1: on skype
    [8/7/2014 8:15:12 PM] mercury1: i have them
    [8/7/2014 8:15:23 PM] mercury1: how they try to sell me stolen paypal account
    [8/7/2014 8:15:37 PM] BlackHatExpert: oh
    [8/7/2014 8:15:47 PM] BlackHatExpert: im just a junior vip
    [8/7/2014 8:15:49 PM] BlackHatExpert: in bhw
    [8/7/2014 8:15:59 PM] BlackHatExpert: try sending that to moderator
    [8/7/2014 8:16:15 PM] mercury1: can you please send him a message?
    [8/7/2014 8:16:30 PM] mercury1: and if he have 5 min time to talk with me here on skype
    [8/7/2014 8:16:36 PM] mercury1: i have all conversation
    [8/7/2014 8:17:11 PM] BlackHatExpert: moderators dont show intrest to talk to third persons.you can contact them on skype or through email
    [8/7/2014 8:17:21 PM] BlackHatExpert: or send them a pm from new account
    [8/7/2014 8:17:23 PM] mercury1: on skype is fain
    [8/7/2014 8:17:43 PM] BlackHatExpert: you can see skype from there profiles
    [8/7/2014 8:17:46 PM] mercury1: can you please give me hes skype id ?
    [8/7/2014 8:17:53 PM] mercury1: allright
    [8/7/2014 8:18:01 PM] BlackHatExpert: give me a min i will try to get that for you
    [8/7/2014 8:19:06 PM] BlackHatExpert: contact http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/31021-jazzc.html
    [8/7/2014 8:19:07 PM] BlackHatExpert: or
    [8/7/2014 8:19:35 PM] BlackHatExpert: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/48410-oldsalt.html
    [8/7/2014 8:19:47 PM] BlackHatExpert: they did not mentioned there skype id
    [8/7/2014 8:19:52 PM] mercury1: oke
    [8/7/2014 8:19:55 PM] BlackHatExpert: try contacting themw ith new id
    [8/7/2014 8:20:02 PM] mercury1: i will forward the conversation
    [8/7/2014 8:20:07 PM] BlackHatExpert: yes
    [8/7/2014 8:20:56 PM] mercury1: so do you know teamviwer software?
    [8/7/2014 8:22:00 PM] BlackHatExpert: i know about it
    [8/7/2014 8:22:18 PM] BlackHatExpert: but we dont have accounts to show you by logging in
    [8/7/2014 8:22:31 PM] BlackHatExpert: we usally create accounts and sell them
    [8/7/2014 8:22:38 PM] BlackHatExpert: after receiving payments
    [8/7/2014 8:22:43 PM] mercury1: i see
    [8/7/2014 8:22:50 PM] mercury1: oke then
    [8/7/2014 8:23:29 PM] BlackHatExpert: there are so mnay people who do scams and also so many people who work hard for money
    [8/7/2014 8:23:38 PM] BlackHatExpert: its all depends on trust
    [8/7/2014 8:23:44 PM] mercury1: :(
    [8/7/2014 8:23:44 PM] mercury1: yeah , i cant belive they ban me
    [8/7/2014 8:23:53 PM] BlackHatExpert: we will never force you to order
    [8/7/2014 8:24:06 PM] BlackHatExpert: we will receive atleast 1 order about paypal account in a week
    [8/7/2014 8:24:26 PM] BlackHatExpert: Thanks
    [8/7/2014 8:24:29 PM] mercury1: i really trust you
    [8/7/2014 8:24:34 PM] mercury1: i can see you are a honest guy
    [8/7/2014 8:24:40 PM] mercury1: i checked you on BHW
    [8/7/2014 8:24:43 PM] mercury1: you are a old member
    [8/7/2014 8:24:48 PM] mercury1: good recomandations
    [8/7/2014 8:24:58 PM] mercury1: but i fear i recive again 21 days hold
    [8/7/2014 8:25:08 PM] mercury1: i allready have 18 k GBP on 21 days hold
    [8/7/2014 8:25:32 PM] mercury1: and i have to purchase 2 awsome watches at very low pricees
    [8/7/2014 8:25:51 PM] BlackHatExpert: you wont get any problem if you get any problems we will help you.paypal will always asks for a proof
    [8/7/2014 8:25:53 PM] mercury1: if i freeze again another 10 k GBP i`m done
    [8/7/2014 8:25:58 PM] BlackHatExpert: and if we give them on time
    [8/7/2014 8:26:07 PM] mercury1: yeah but they still keep the money for 21 days
    [8/7/2014 8:26:17 PM] mercury1: they will release the damn money after 21 days
    [8/7/2014 8:26:25 PM] BlackHatExpert: on our accounts they wont
    [8/7/2014 8:26:31 PM] mercury1: 100% sure?
    [8/7/2014 8:26:39 PM] BlackHatExpert: 110% sure
    [8/7/2014 8:26:45 PM] mercury1: oke
    [8/7/2014 8:26:52 PM] mercury1: if that dosent work i`m done
    [8/7/2014 8:27:02 PM] BlackHatExpert: theyw ill keep on hold only when we did not give proper id proof
    [8/7/2014 8:27:11 PM] mercury1: give me again your perfect money account
    [8/7/2014 8:27:37 PM] BlackHatExpert: [Wednesday, August 06, 2014 9:21 PM] BlackHatExpert: 
    
    
    <<< U8440622
    [8/7/2014 8:27:45 PM] BlackHatExpert: this is the right id i think
    [8/7/2014 8:27:52 PM] BlackHatExpert: i never used perfect money
    [8/7/2014 8:28:03 PM] BlackHatExpert: just created because you said you can pay with that
    [8/7/2014 8:28:28 PM] mercury1: yeah
    [8/7/2014 8:28:35 PM] mercury1: $350 right ?
    [8/7/2014 8:28:39 PM] mercury1: and $50 in few days
    [8/7/2014 8:28:52 PM] BlackHatExpert: you have to pay remaining after receiving account
    [8/7/2014 8:28:54 PM] BlackHatExpert: ?
    [8/7/2014 8:28:58 PM] mercury1: yes
    [8/7/2014 8:29:00 PM] BlackHatExpert: ok
    [8/7/2014 8:29:10 PM] mercury1: dont have on perfect money right now
    [8/7/2014 8:29:41 PM] BlackHatExpert: you can pay when ever you are interested
    [8/7/2014 8:29:54 PM] mercury1: i pay right now
    [8/7/2014 8:30:08 PM] BlackHatExpert: o.k
    [8/7/2014 8:31:34 PM] mercury1: Transaction of 351.00 USD to account U8440622 was successfully completed.
    
    
    Transaction batch#: 65229241
    
    
    Timestamp: 08.07.2014, 19:29
    [8/7/2014 8:31:47 PM] mercury1: check your perfect money account
    [8/7/2014 8:31:52 PM] BlackHatExpert: o.k let me check and confirm the payment
    [8/7/2014 8:32:08 PM] BlackHatExpert: mean while please email me the shipping details to *Removed*
    [8/7/2014 8:32:15 PM] mercury1: oke
    [8/7/2014 8:32:16 PM] mercury1: right now
    [8/7/2014 8:34:39 PM] BlackHatExpert: o.k your payment is confirmed
    [8/7/2014 8:34:48 PM] BlackHatExpert: Please guide me about this perfect money
    [8/7/2014 8:34:56 PM] BlackHatExpert: can i make payments with this balance
    [8/7/2014 8:34:58 PM] BlackHatExpert: ?
    [8/7/2014 8:35:10 PM] BlackHatExpert: can i withdraw the money too
    [8/7/2014 8:35:13 PM] BlackHatExpert: ?
    [8/7/2014 8:35:15 PM] mercury1: yes sure
    [8/7/2014 8:35:21 PM] mercury1: on the blue line
    [8/7/2014 8:35:24 PM] mercury1: you have there options
    [8/7/2014 8:35:28 PM] mercury1: withdraw
    [8/7/2014 8:35:35 PM] mercury1: exchange
    [8/7/2014 8:35:44 PM] mercury1: make payment etc etc
    [8/7/2014 8:35:46 PM] BlackHatExpert: oh o.k
    [8/7/2014 8:35:54 PM] mercury1: its somthing like liberty reserve
    [8/7/2014 8:36:08 PM] mercury1: the ideea is the same but now legit
    [8/7/2014 8:36:17 PM] BlackHatExpert: oh..never used that too always sticked to paypal and skrill
    [8/7/2014 8:36:32 PM] BlackHatExpert: because in paypal if any one scams we can open dispute
    [8/7/2014 8:36:59 PM] mercury1: that the only good thing by paypal
    [8/7/2014 8:37:11 PM] mercury1: thos 2 guys dosent want me to pay by paypal
    [8/7/2014 8:37:26 PM] BlackHatExpert: oh.
    [8/7/2014 8:37:46 PM] mercury1: what name will be on the paypal account and on the vcc etc?
    [8/7/2014 8:38:01 PM] mercury1: what email adress?
    [8/7/2014 8:38:02 PM] mercury1: my ?
    [8/7/2014 8:38:12 PM] mercury1: or you put your own email adress?
    [8/7/2014 8:38:44 PM] BlackHatExpert: we will create a new email address and usually we create with fake name and if you want on your name we can get that but we will use any random address
    [8/7/2014 8:39:10 PM] mercury1: do how you know better
    [8/7/2014 8:39:42 PM] mercury1: to bad that the first guy scammed me
    [8/7/2014 8:39:42 PM] mercury1: :(
    [8/7/2014 8:39:54 PM] mercury1: i have bought 2
    [8/7/2014 8:40:15 PM] BlackHatExpert: 2 paypal accounts
    [8/7/2014 8:40:16 PM] BlackHatExpert: ?
    [8/7/2014 8:40:29 PM] mercury1: yeah to evoid the limitations
    [8/7/2014 8:40:42 PM] mercury1: the thing is that i cant afford to keep money for 3 weeks
    [8/7/2014 8:40:42 PM] BlackHatExpert: what happened than
    [8/7/2014 8:41:13 PM] BlackHatExpert: i will give you guide
    [8/7/2014 8:41:17 PM] mercury1: i recive always good offers by watches and have to pay big amounts in cash very fast
    [8/7/2014 8:41:21 PM] BlackHatExpert: you have to read that twice trice
    [8/7/2014 8:41:25 PM] BlackHatExpert: and understand that
    [8/7/2014 8:41:39 PM] mercury1: what about the Ip adress?
    [8/7/2014 8:41:46 PM] BlackHatExpert: we use hma
    [8/7/2014 8:41:47 PM] mercury1: i recive a VPS?
    [8/7/2014 8:41:54 PM] BlackHatExpert: and i will tell you the location
    [8/7/2014 8:42:13 PM] BlackHatExpert: subcribe to hma and use from that location
    [8/7/2014 8:42:30 PM] BlackHatExpert: i can give you my hma id and password
    [8/7/2014 8:42:46 PM] BlackHatExpert: but from the next month you have to take your own subcription
    [8/7/2014 8:42:55 PM] BlackHatExpert: doesnt costs more than $10
    [8/7/2014 8:43:07 PM] BlackHatExpert: if you buy for 1 year you will get discount too
    [8/7/2014 8:43:41 PM] mercury1: what is hma ?
    [8/7/2014 8:43:43 PM] mercury1: hamachi ?
    [8/7/2014 8:43:58 PM] BlackHatExpert: no no
    [8/7/2014 8:43:59 PM] BlackHatExpert: lol
    [8/7/2014 8:44:05 PM] BlackHatExpert: hide my ass vpn
    [8/7/2014 8:44:09 PM] BlackHatExpert: just google it
    [8/7/2014 8:44:24 PM] mercury1: but they are shared IPS
    [8/7/2014 8:44:24 PM] BlackHatExpert: and it is a wonderful software to hide ip
    [8/7/2014 8:44:31 PM] mercury1: someone else can use`it to
    [8/7/2014 8:44:42 PM] BlackHatExpert: thats not a problem for you
    [8/7/2014 8:44:48 PM] mercury1: oke
    [8/7/2014 8:44:51 PM] mercury1: no problem
    [8/7/2014 8:45:03 PM] mercury1: it will be a US or UK based IP ?
    [8/7/2014 8:45:36 PM] mercury1: i mean paypal
    [8/7/2014 8:45:36 PM] mercury1: :))
    [8/7/2014 8:45:46 PM] mercury1: i`m so happy you are a good guy
    [8/7/2014 8:45:54 PM] mercury1: and not scammed me :))
    [8/7/2014 8:46:12 PM] mercury1: that Huge for me to have a US or UK paypal account
    [8/7/2014 8:46:33 PM] mercury1: ppl on ebay dont trust Romania
    [8/7/2014 8:46:43 PM] mercury1: they dont know where this country is
    [8/7/2014 8:46:44 PM] mercury1: :))
    [8/7/2014 8:46:58 PM] BlackHatExpert: we provide usa only
    [8/7/2014 8:47:06 PM] BlackHatExpert: because he have back up to give all proofs
    [8/7/2014 8:47:12 PM] BlackHatExpert: in case if you face any issues
    [8/7/2014 8:47:19 PM] mercury1: oke that great
    [8/7/2014 8:47:34 PM] mercury1: i just email you adress name phine number
    [8/7/2014 8:47:39 PM] mercury1: where to recive the debit card
    [8/7/2014 8:47:56 PM] BlackHatExpert: o.k are you sure that you included every thing
    [8/7/2014 8:48:05 PM] mercury1: yes
    [8/7/2014 8:48:12 PM] mercury1: Country Romania
    [8/7/2014 8:48:13 PM] BlackHatExpert: and the address is correct
    [8/7/2014 8:48:18 PM] mercury1: city Bucharest
    [8/7/2014 8:48:22 PM] mercury1: yes 100% sure
    [8/7/2014 8:48:27 PM] BlackHatExpert: once if we ship we cant not change
    [8/7/2014 8:48:35 PM] BlackHatExpert: so just confirm again
    [8/7/2014 8:48:46 PM] mercury1: oke 1 min
    [8/7/2014 8:48:47 PM] mercury1: let me check
    [8/7/2014 8:51:41 PM] mercury1: do you need zip code?
    [8/7/2014 8:51:52 PM] BlackHatExpert: yes
    [8/7/2014 8:51:59 PM] BlackHatExpert: include every thing
    [8/7/2014 8:53:23 PM] mercury1: oke
    [8/7/2014 8:53:25 PM] mercury1: i send again
    [8/7/2014 8:53:48 PM] BlackHatExpert: o.k
    [8/7/2014 8:53:54 PM] BlackHatExpert: i received your first email
    [8/7/2014 8:57:21 PM] mercury1: i dont know the zip code
    [8/7/2014 8:57:25 PM] mercury1: but i go out and search
    [8/7/2014 8:57:29 PM] BlackHatExpert: ok
    [8/7/2014 8:57:38 PM] mercury1: in 1-2 hours i give you the zip code to
    [8/7/2014 8:57:49 PM] BlackHatExpert: you have 3 days time for this we will courier you only after giving you paypal account
    [8/7/2014 8:57:57 PM] mercury1: oke
    [8/7/2014 8:58:03 PM] mercury1: that great great great :)
    [8/7/2014 8:58:16 PM] mercury1: thank you very much
    [8/7/2014 8:58:25 PM] mercury1: i will recomand you to a friend to
    [8/7/2014 8:58:29 PM] mercury1: he will buy from you also
    [8/7/2014 8:59:40 PM] BlackHatExpert: thats great
    [8/7/2014 8:59:43 PM] BlackHatExpert: thank you
    [8/7/2014 8:59:53 PM] BlackHatExpert: i will try to provide you best service
    [8/7/2014 9:04:09 PM] BlackHatExpert: did you know about this site
    [8/7/2014 9:04:10 PM] BlackHatExpert: *Removed*
    [8/7/2014 9:04:22 PM] BlackHatExpert: it is in perfect money withdrawl
    [8/7/2014 9:04:32 PM] BlackHatExpert: option withdrawl partners
    [8/7/2014 9:04:41 PM] BlackHatExpert: is it safe to work with these guys
    [8/7/2014 9:04:42 PM] BlackHatExpert: ?
    [8/7/2014 10:12:37 PM] mercury1: yeah
    [8/7/2014 10:12:51 PM] mercury1: but be careful
    [8/7/2014 10:12:58 PM] mercury1: every where are thief
    [8/7/2014 10:12:59 PM] BlackHatExpert: yeah ok
    [8/7/2014 10:13:57 PM] mercury1: i think secondeye can exchange
    [8/7/2014 10:14:14 PM] BlackHatExpert: we have a problem
    [8/7/2014 10:14:22 PM] BlackHatExpert: he is from pakisthan
    [8/7/2014 10:14:38 PM] BlackHatExpert: and in our country we have to show lorts of proofs
    [8/7/2014 10:14:47 PM] BlackHatExpert: if i receive money from pakisthan
    [8/7/2014 10:15:33 PM] mercury1: i see
    [8/7/2014 10:15:47 PM] mercury1: i will provide you an honest guy
    [8/7/2014 10:15:49 PM] mercury1: hes russian
    [8/7/2014 10:15:58 PM] mercury1: i will give you hes id
    [8/7/2014 10:16:03 PM] BlackHatExpert: yes sure
    [8/7/2014 10:16:06 PM] BlackHatExpert: Please give me
    [8/7/2014 10:17:06 PM] mercury1: ICQ: 325109102
    [8/7/2014 10:17:19 PM] BlackHatExpert: wont he use skype
    [8/7/2014 10:17:28 PM] mercury1: i dont think so
    [8/7/2014 10:17:32 PM] mercury1: all russian use ICQ
    [8/7/2014 10:17:33 PM] BlackHatExpert: ok
    [8/7/2014 10:17:37 PM] BlackHatExpert: thats not a problem
    [8/7/2014 10:17:39 PM] mercury1: but maybe he have
    [8/7/2014 10:18:36 PM] mercury1: ask him what rates he have
    [8/7/2014 10:18:46 PM] mercury1: i mean from Perfect money to paypal
    [8/7/2014 10:18:50 PM] BlackHatExpert: yea sure
    [8/7/2014 10:18:52 PM] mercury1: or in what you want to exchange
    [8/7/2014 10:19:20 PM] BlackHatExpert: mostly paypal or bank transfre becuse i will loose more fee if i get in paypal
    [8/7/2014 10:20:54 PM] mercury1: oke
    [8/7/2014 10:20:55 PM] mercury1: ask him
    [8/7/2014 10:22:43 PM] mercury1: just emaild you complete adress with zip adress
    [8/7/2014 10:22:51 PM] BlackHatExpert: yea
    [8/7/2014 10:23:33 PM] mercury1: did you send before in romania such debot cards ?
    [8/7/2014 10:23:57 PM] BlackHatExpert: no
    [8/7/2014 10:24:13 PM] BlackHatExpert: but its just shipping
    [8/7/2014 10:24:16 PM] mercury1: i think they will charge fees 
    [8/7/2014 10:24:19 PM] mercury1: yeah
    [8/7/2014 10:24:20 PM] BlackHatExpert: you will get it
    [8/7/2014 10:24:42 PM] mercury1: but in Romania all stuff that comes outside European Union they charge fees
    [8/7/2014 10:24:54 PM] mercury1: ill call them
    [8/7/2014 10:25:21 PM] mercury1: tomorw i can come with more information
    [8/7/2014 10:25:24 PM] mercury1: maybe we need
    [8/7/2014 10:25:48 PM] mercury1: from where exactly you will mail ?
    [8/7/2014 10:25:50 PM] mercury1: India?
    [8/7/2014 10:26:34 PM] BlackHatExpert: india
    [8/7/2014 10:26:36 PM] BlackHatExpert: yes
    [8/7/2014 10:26:53 PM] BlackHatExpert: hey its late
    [8/7/2014 10:26:53 PM] BlackHatExpert: i will sleep
    [8/7/2014 10:27:03 PM] BlackHatExpert: i will talk to you tomorrow
    [8/7/2014 10:27:09 PM] mercury1: oke
    [8/7/2014 10:27:15 PM] mercury1: have a good night
    [8/8/2014 3:13:39 PM] mercury1: hello
    [8/8/2014 3:35:21 PM] mercury1: wizz me when you come online please
    [8/8/2014 4:04:15 PM] BlackHatExpert: hello
    [8/8/2014 4:14:28 PM] mercury1: Hi
    [8/8/2014 4:14:28 PM] mercury1: :)
    [8/8/2014 4:14:35 PM] mercury1: sup
    [8/8/2014 4:14:42 PM] BlackHatExpert: hello
    [8/8/2014 4:14:52 PM] BlackHatExpert: how are you today?
    [8/8/2014 4:16:13 PM] mercury1: thanks i`m fain
    [8/8/2014 4:16:23 PM] mercury1: cant wait till i get the paypal :)
    [8/8/2014 4:17:33 PM] BlackHatExpert: you need that much urgent
    [8/8/2014 4:17:35 PM] BlackHatExpert: ?
    [8/8/2014 4:18:16 PM] mercury1: no :)
    [8/8/2014 4:18:44 PM] mercury1: i`m only happy about this
    [8/8/2014 4:18:44 PM] BlackHatExpert: i will try to deliver you as soon as possible
    [8/8/2014 4:18:49 PM] mercury1: oke
    [8/8/2014 4:18:56 PM] mercury1: i`m sorry i bother you
    [8/11/2014 12:20:32 AM] mercury1: Hello
    [8/11/2014 12:20:39 AM] mercury1: is the paypal ready ?
    [8/11/2014 12:24:59 AM] mercury1: Hello
    [8/11/2014 12:26:30 AM] mercury1: can you please answer
    [8/11/2014 12:26:42 AM] mercury1: i like to know when i recive the paypal account
    [8/11/2014 3:20:19 AM] mercury1: hello
    [8/11/2014 3:20:30 AM] mercury1: please answer
    [8/11/2014 3:21:07 AM] mercury1: can you please tell me when i will recive the paypal account ?
    [8/11/2014 6:33:50 AM] mercury1: Hi
    [8/11/2014 6:34:02 AM] mercury1: why you don`t answer
    [8/11/2014 6:34:37 AM] mercury1: ?
    [8/11/2014 6:34:38 AM] mercury1: :(
    [8/11/2014 6:39:41 AM] mercury1: ??
    [8/11/2014 7:35:37 AM] BlackHatExpert: hey
    [8/11/2014 7:35:44 AM] BlackHatExpert: I'm sorry
    [8/11/2014 7:35:58 AM] BlackHatExpert: I'm sleeping actually.i forgot to off my pc
    [8/11/2014 7:39:10 AM] BlackHatExpert: please dont worry
    [8/11/2014 7:39:28 AM] BlackHatExpert: I will let you know by night
    [8/11/2014 5:26:49 PM] mercury1: oh oke
    [8/11/2014 5:26:49 PM] mercury1: :)
    [8/11/2014 9:04:31 PM] mercury1: hello
    [8/11/2014 9:04:33 PM] mercury1: you there?
    [8/11/2014 9:07:36 PM] BlackHatExpert: yes
    [8/11/2014 10:02:39 PM] mercury1: any update ?
    [8/11/2014 10:02:39 PM] mercury1: :)
    [8/11/2014 10:03:08 PM] BlackHatExpert: we just created a paypal and our team is off this weekend i just gave them to create the id proofs
    [8/11/2014 10:03:14 PM] BlackHatExpert: once it is done
    [8/11/2014 10:03:20 PM] BlackHatExpert: i will update and ive you the account
    [8/11/2014 10:03:33 PM] mercury1: oke
    [8/11/2014 10:03:49 PM] mercury1: when you think i will recive the debit card 
    [8/11/2014 10:03:49 PM] mercury1: ?
    [8/11/2014 10:04:44 PM] BlackHatExpert: once i give you the paypal once when you said everything is fine.we will start to courier
    [8/11/2014 10:04:57 PM] BlackHatExpert: if you are not satisfied with paypal and our service
    [8/11/2014 10:05:06 PM] BlackHatExpert: before courier only we will refund
    [8/11/2014 10:05:20 PM] BlackHatExpert: because once if we sent you courier we cant refund
    [8/11/2014 10:09:10 PM] mercury1: i see
    [8/11/2014 10:09:26 PM] mercury1: so now if i want to cancel the order i can ?
    [8/11/2014 10:11:04 PM] BlackHatExpert: yes you can,but i actually sent the payments and you have to wait atleast for 2 days and we charge $20 as cancelation fee
    [8/11/2014 10:11:19 PM] BlackHatExpert: may i know the reason why you wish to cancel
    [8/11/2014 10:11:21 PM] BlackHatExpert: ?
    [8/11/2014 10:11:38 PM] BlackHatExpert: do you think our customer service is not good
    [8/11/2014 10:11:39 PM] BlackHatExpert: ?
    [8/11/2014 10:22:31 PM] mercury1: no no
    [8/11/2014 10:22:35 PM] mercury1: i dont want to cancel
    [8/11/2014 10:22:36 PM] mercury1: :)
    [8/11/2014 10:22:46 PM] mercury1: i just asked
    [8/12/2014 8:45:34 PM] mercury1: Hello
    [8/12/2014 8:45:39 PM] mercury1: is the paypal ready ?
    [8/12/2014 8:45:50 PM] BlackHatExpert: Hello
    [8/12/2014 8:46:04 PM] BlackHatExpert: working on it..
    [8/12/2014 8:46:13 PM] BlackHatExpert: i will ping you here once it is ready
    [8/12/2014 8:47:41 PM] mercury1: oke
    [8/13/2014 3:27:28 AM] mercury1: Hello
    [8/13/2014 3:27:33 AM] mercury1: any updates?
    [8/13/2014 5:38:02 AM] BlackHatExpert: we are still working on it.may be by tomorrow i will send you account
    [8/13/2014 5:38:06 AM] BlackHatExpert: and start courier
    [8/13/2014 5:38:16 AM] BlackHatExpert: we have a tor and i postponed to saturday
    [8/13/2014 5:38:21 AM] BlackHatExpert: because of pending orders
    [8/13/2014 4:28:32 PM] mercury1: oke
    [8/13/2014 4:28:43 PM] mercury1: i hope till tomorow will be ready
    [8/13/2014 6:29:32 PM] BlackHatExpert: yes
    [8/13/2014 6:29:36 PM] BlackHatExpert: exactly
    [8/13/2014 6:29:39 PM] BlackHatExpert: almost ready
    [8/13/2014 6:29:46 PM] BlackHatExpert: i will send you by tom
    [8/14/2014 6:24:36 PM] mercury1: hello
    [8/14/2014 6:24:39 PM] mercury1: so ?
    [8/14/2014 6:24:44 PM] mercury1: is the paypal ready ?
    [8/14/2014 7:08:57 PM] BlackHatExpert: hello
    [8/14/2014 7:09:15 PM] BlackHatExpert: unfortunately paypal asks aditional documents
    [8/14/2014 7:09:24 PM] BlackHatExpert: i will giveid and password and location
    [8/14/2014 7:09:35 PM] BlackHatExpert: just access and see.
    [8/14/2014 8:19:32 PM] mercury1: i think we better cancel 
    [8/14/2014 8:20:03 PM] BlackHatExpert: hey
    [8/14/2014 8:20:06 PM] mercury1: i`m sorry to say that but its allready 1 week gone
    [8/14/2014 8:20:07 PM] mercury1: :(
    [8/14/2014 8:20:31 PM] BlackHatExpert: some times paypal takes too much time but once if we deliver im sure you wont get any problem
    [8/14/2014 8:20:47 PM] mercury1: i know what you mean
    [8/14/2014 8:21:01 PM] mercury1: but i needed the pay[a; this week
    [8/14/2014 8:21:41 PM] mercury1: i loose allready 2 cutomers :(
    [8/14/2014 8:21:41 PM] BlackHatExpert: I will deliver the fully verified account by this saturday morning once if you say ok i will courier on the same day.I will speed up the things
    [8/14/2014 8:21:54 PM] BlackHatExpert: I'm sorry for that
    [8/14/2014 8:22:46 PM] mercury1: let me think about that few hours
    [8/14/2014 8:22:50 PM] mercury1: and ill come with an answer
    [8/14/2014 8:23:11 PM] BlackHatExpert: I'm sure you will satisfied with our service
    [8/14/2014 8:23:20 PM] BlackHatExpert: I know some times every seller will do late
    [8/14/2014 8:23:26 PM] BlackHatExpert: as there are many problems
    [8/14/2014 8:23:43 PM] mercury1: i understand
    [8/14/2014 8:23:54 PM] mercury1: but we talk about 3 business days
    [8/14/2014 8:24:04 PM] mercury1: and now are 8 business days
    [8/14/2014 8:24:37 PM] mercury1: till i recive the debit card it ill be another 10 days for sure :(
    [8/14/2014 8:24:39 PM] BlackHatExpert: yes its not just one individual work
    [8/14/2014 8:24:50 PM] BlackHatExpert: i will do fast shipping
    [8/14/2014 8:24:52 PM] BlackHatExpert: dnt wry
    [8/14/2014 8:25:22 PM] mercury1: i am a long term customer
    [8/14/2014 8:25:41 PM] BlackHatExpert: yes i understand,I dnt want to loose customers
    [8/14/2014 8:25:41 PM] mercury1: till now yur services arent so good
    [8/14/2014 8:26:00 PM] BlackHatExpert: I will do my best..we havent provide any service till now,we are about to provide
    [8/14/2014 8:26:01 PM] BlackHatExpert: you
    [8/14/2014 8:26:07 PM] BlackHatExpert: once we are done with it
    [8/14/2014 8:26:15 PM] BlackHatExpert: you will like the service
    [8/14/2014 8:26:41 PM] mercury1: not so sure about the 21 days hold 
    [8/14/2014 8:26:49 PM] mercury1: i think there will bealso problems
    [8/14/2014 8:26:59 PM] mercury1: i called paypal
    [8/14/2014 8:27:09 PM] BlackHatExpert: dnt wry about that
    [8/14/2014 8:27:10 PM] mercury1: and they told me if its a new paypal account
    [8/14/2014 8:27:15 PM] mercury1: and the amount is big
    [8/14/2014 8:27:25 PM] mercury1: for sure i will recive the hold
    [8/14/2014 8:27:41 PM] mercury1: i know you can fix that
    [8/14/2014 8:27:44 PM] BlackHatExpert: we email them with id proofs so that wnt be a problem
    [8/14/2014 8:27:48 PM] mercury1: but what if they ask for SSN ?
    [8/14/2014 8:28:52 PM] mercury1: its most commonly that they ask for SSN
    [8/14/2014 8:29:20 PM] BlackHatExpert: we tell paypal that we are not usa residents,we came to usa we need time
    [8/14/2014 8:29:26 PM] BlackHatExpert: to get ssn
    [8/14/2014 8:29:40 PM] mercury1: paypal dont care about that :)
    [8/14/2014 8:30:17 PM] BlackHatExpert: there are alternatives,we have good experience
    [8/14/2014 8:30:33 PM] BlackHatExpert: we have alternative
    [8/14/2014 8:30:51 PM] BlackHatExpert: if you wish we will do that'
    [8/14/2014 8:31:22 PM] BlackHatExpert: take asian paypal they dnt need ssn
    [8/14/2014 8:31:51 PM] BlackHatExpert: you can use same like usapaypal
    [8/14/2014 8:32:03 PM] mercury1: there is no diference ?
    [8/14/2014 8:32:13 PM] mercury1: i mean how do i withdraw ?
    [8/14/2014 8:32:23 PM] mercury1: same as USA paypal account ?
    [8/14/2014 8:32:55 PM] BlackHatExpert: we deliver bank account and atm
    [8/14/2014 8:33:04 PM] mercury1: oh
    [8/14/2014 8:33:13 PM] mercury1: anyway i`m UK citizen
    [8/14/2014 8:33:23 PM] mercury1: i sell stuff on ebay uk
    [8/14/2014 8:33:52 PM] BlackHatExpert: you can go for that so paypal wnt ask
    [8/14/2014 8:34:06 PM] mercury1: now i`m confused
    [8/14/2014 8:34:06 PM] mercury1: :))
    [8/14/2014 8:34:19 PM] BlackHatExpert: we will change and give you by saturday
    [8/14/2014 8:34:24 PM] BlackHatExpert: morning
    [8/14/2014 8:34:31 PM] mercury1: no no
    [8/14/2014 8:34:34 PM] mercury1: leavit like that
    [8/14/2014 8:34:37 PM] mercury1: no asian paypal
    [8/14/2014 8:35:01 PM] BlackHatExpert: my sugession is asian dnt have ssn
    [8/14/2014 8:35:10 PM] BlackHatExpert: so go for it
    [8/14/2014 8:35:24 PM] mercury1: is the same price like the USA ?
    [8/14/2014 8:35:28 PM] mercury1: is  not cheaper ?
    [8/14/2014 8:35:40 PM] BlackHatExpert: same
    [8/14/2014 8:35:48 PM] BlackHatExpert: no difference
    [8/14/2014 8:36:16 PM] BlackHatExpert: asian paypal dnt need ssn
    [8/14/2014 8:36:22 PM] mercury1: i know
    [8/14/2014 8:36:39 PM] mercury1: but USa paypal is beeter
    [8/14/2014 8:37:01 PM] BlackHatExpert: ok
    [8/14/2014 8:37:01 PM] mercury1: i mean a USA paypal account with an USA bank account
    [8/14/2014 8:37:08 PM] BlackHatExpert: ok
    [8/14/2014 8:37:24 PM] mercury1: anyway i have to think about that
    [8/14/2014 8:37:43 PM] mercury1: hope you move a lil bit faster 
    [8/14/2014 8:38:04 PM] mercury1: in few hour i come with an answer
    [8/14/2014 8:38:41 PM] mercury1: i just recived a email notification from a another team that sell paypal accounts
    [8/14/2014 8:38:53 PM] mercury1: and they sell allready made paypal accounts
    [8/14/2014 8:38:55 PM] mercury1: aged 
    [8/14/2014 8:38:58 PM] mercury1: 10 motnh
    [8/14/2014 8:39:08 PM] mercury1: with all documents and all stuff
    [8/14/2014 8:39:10 PM] mercury1: with 250 USD
    [8/14/2014 8:39:13 PM] mercury1: but
    [8/14/2014 8:39:25 PM] mercury1: i dont like to change my mind
    [8/14/2014 8:39:33 PM] mercury1: i mean if i start with someone 
    [8/14/2014 8:39:39 PM] mercury1: i go till the end
    [8/14/2014 8:39:45 PM | Removed 8:39:54 PM] BlackHatExpert: This message has been removed.
    [8/14/2014 8:40:02 PM] BlackHatExpert: o.k
    [8/14/2014 8:40:32 PM] mercury1: please do your best and lets go trough this deal 
    [8/14/2014 8:41:41 PM] mercury1: tall later
    [8/14/2014 8:41:42 PM] mercury1: bye
    [8/15/2014 3:42:41 PM] mercury1: Hello
    [8/15/2014 11:25:04 PM] mercury1: Hello
    [8/15/2014 11:25:13 PM] BlackHatExpert: hey
    [8/15/2014 11:25:24 PM] BlackHatExpert: sorry unfortunately i missed your message
    [8/15/2014 11:25:52 PM] mercury1: you think by tomorow is the paypal ready ?
    [8/15/2014 11:26:17 PM] BlackHatExpert: yes,we are working on it.we will send you
    [8/15/2014 11:26:25 PM] mercury1: oke
    [8/16/2014 1:28:31 PM] mercury1: Hello
    [8/16/2014 1:28:36 PM] mercury1: you there?
    [8/16/2014 1:28:43 PM] mercury1: is the paypal ready ?
    [8/17/2014 7:03:13 AM] mercury1: Hello
    [8/18/2014 8:23:24 AM] mercury1: Hello
    [8/18/2014 11:57:43 AM] mercury1: hey my friend
    [8/18/2014 11:57:59 AM] mercury1: you promise me that saturday the paypal will be ready
    [8/18/2014 11:58:03 AM] mercury1: now is monday
    [8/18/2014 11:58:09 AM] mercury1: and you are offline
    [8/18/2014 11:58:13 AM] mercury1: what happen?
    [8/18/2014 7:21:02 PM] mercury1: why you dont answer ?
    [8/18/2014 7:21:03 PM] mercury1: :(
    [8/18/2014 7:21:35 PM] mercury1: i hope i recive the paypal today from you
    [8/19/2014 2:33:53 PM] mercury1: hello
     
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  2. bugsyy

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    Hello ,

    I am trying to follow all rules for SHIT list section and as far as I understand I have to tell the whole story so I will but the short version first which :

    I sent him ( Black Hat Expert ) 140$ by western union for verified bing account loaded with 100$ balance since almost one month ago - And the deal was full refund if didn't receive my acct in two days maximum.

    Now, Here is the long version in details :


    I was looking for bing accounts and I got PM from the member " Black Hat Expert "offering me bing accounts and to add him @ skype so I did. After we talked and I explained what I need which is verified bing accounts with BALANCE not postpay. He said he can supply and he already sell VCC accepted by Adwords, I asked him If his VCC accpted by bing and can load balance and his answer was "YES I have many clients buy from me VCC and use it with bing so am sure there is no problems." I believed him and I asked him for bing accounts with balance, he said he can load balance no problem I asked how much and he said for verified aged bing account with 100$ balance will cost me 140$ . Since I have no paypal I asked if he accept WU, he said yes of-course.


    Then I asked him how long it will take after he pick the money deliver my accounts, he said 2 days max until he load balance and if he did not deliver by this time he will full refund me after 2 DAYS!! I agreed, This happened between 1-3 August I dont remember the date exactly.


    After two days came and said he need another 2 days and he's sure he can get the job done. I accepted and waited. then after 5 days came and said he was waiting for someone to give him the bing accounts so he can load it but the guy didn't make it or didn't come or whatever he gave me many excuses actually. I had enough and I was losing time relying on him so I asked him to send my money. He accepted and said will send first thing in the morning, Next morning he didn't come then he came in the night says its late and cant send at weekend as it was already new Saturday and I must wait till monday. It was clear to me hes buying time but I said its fine maybe he will manage to get the account.


    He didnt come monday, not answering my msgs and only answer when I go offline with new excuses and since then until now every day with a new story like "my paypal is expecting payments and the guy didn't pay so I cant pay you." Of-course I didnt give a fuck and that's what I said . he keep talking about how honest hes and he never scam someone and will pay me only a matter of time . I stay quiet for another 2-3 days and no word from him. I start to ask about my money and then he promise to send tomorrow and ask me to wait and I accept then he vanish.


    Suddenly He come back again after few days and finally reply to my messages and gave me one bing account verified and payment method as postpay which is not what we agreed about as I clearly asked for account loaded with 100$ balance and thats why I send him 140$ . Ofcourse I didnt accept and told him I dont need it then he said its just a gift to believe am working in ur account bla bla . then I asked him for my money coz I lost too much time and I dont need anything anymore expect my money which was supposed to be send after 2 days max if u dnt deliver. Ofcourse he said he will send my money but this time asked me for alternative payment as Perfect money, Skrill or bitcoin coz its hard for him to send western union. He just discovered after all this weeks he cant send WU .

    Ofcourse it was clear to me he just buy time and he knows very well that I sent western union and I paid fees which I already lost. And am not willing to lose another fees to get my money by another online currency and register a new acccount and lose more fees trying go get my money out so I told him I need my money western union like he promised 3 weeks ago many times, So I didnt accept at first and he said he will send wu and again vanish for 4 days.

    By luck I see him online here at forums so its clear he blocked me @ skype as I didnt see him online so I send him PM telling how cheap he is hiding like rats and if he didnt send my money in the next 24 hrs I will post this time coz I had enough waiting. Ofcourse he replied in the next 30 mins asking to wait and ask for alternative payment and thats the only reason why he cant so I accepted this time and agreed to send my money thru bitcoin the next day including my WU fees which I lost with the money so total 170$ .


    Of-course didn't hear from him again as usual until I sent him another PM said its over and will post at forums so he dont scam more people. He contact me right away and begged me for anther 3 days maximum this time and he will send money 100% . I didn't accept but he kept begging as its the only way for him to make money and will lose his life if his account banned so as being a generous human I accepted to give him a chance and wait another 3 days maximum this time then its over. This was by 23 August. The funny thing is he asked me to send back western union this time and I gave him new receiver information coz am no longer in Spain . So suddenly WU worked well for him after he was asking for alternative payment coz he cant send WU but the truth is he was just buying time and I actually believed the last time he will send coz if he choosed WU back again thats for one reason to save money and instead of using exchange service and pay fees for both WU + exchanger and pay me he will just send WU and lose one fees .

    Anyway, of-course he stayed talking to me everyday in the next 3 days promising to send this time until he vanished again or lets say blocked me again and he is no longer online to me since the 3 days passed away.

    Its 29 August now, its been over 3 weeks and he was supposed to refund me if he didn't give me the 100$ balance bing account in 2 days maximum. more than 3 weeks until now and I didn't get paid.

    Its very sad to see such verified seller scam members for small money. When I saw his account, I had in my mind old respected member. Blue is nothing you can pay for it but he is verified seller not to mention old account so its small money really not worth it! Actually I believe his account worth more but stupidity has no limit . I didn't mind the fact he keep says " We " in every sentence he use referring to him self as a big company coz most of the small time I met did that all the time and in the end you just find him alone in a room with rented desktop .

    So even if that made skeptical he was verified for god sake! and money is too small but yes sadly I got scammed for 50 and 20 before. Stupidity has no limit. Anyway,


    Member Profile : http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/152809-black-hat-expert.html

    Here is screen shoots for few of our conversations @ skype . All conversation logs and more screen shoots ready for admin/moderator as soon as he ask :


    http://i.imgur.com/Ktn7Ndi.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/eBRzraA.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/OA3JNxd.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/j1GL79n.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/rxujqM5.jpg?1
    http://i.imgur.com/DfuLQ4l.jpg
    http://imgur.com/a/UgcS5#0


    Thank you ,
    Regards
     
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  3. OldSalt

    OldSalt Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I have been trying to work this one behind the scenes but too much time has gone by - and a second member has added a SL - so I have merged the two of them and they are now approved.

    BlackHatExpert has been notified he has 48 hours to respond.

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  4. Black Hat Expert

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    Hello sir,First thing i want to make clear is I'm not a scammer.Unfortunately, my money got stucked up and one of the user has owed me $600 and i have to use this money to live,when i thought of sending them there money back the guy who owed me is not sending me the payment so that's the reason i was saying give me some time please always.Coming to the user mercury I'm very clear that i have to refund her a full amount of $350 and i haven't even worked for her.I"m sorry for that but the user bugsyy ordeed for bing account with added vcc.I can show you proof that i tried a lot and invested my money in getting him that.I can provide vcc my service is i offered him vcc and if he cant redeem i said i can refund.he asked me to add vcc in bing accounts and i agreed to do so,he paid me in western union and i tried it was not possible after good research i gave him bing post pay account where he can run campaign.As he is not satisfied i said i will refund but needed some other payment method.Because if he gives paypal i might have asked my online friends to send money.From the day one he always insults me.I want to refund him but i invested in post pay account which i gave to him.so i want that to be deducted.
    The whole problem is I got scammed and really don't have money to give them,If i was a scammer i might have run away.I can send you screen shots on how good I'm working for other people.I'm accepting my fault and i want to refund.But I really don't have money as i got scammed.I kindly request you to warn that user who owed me and ask him to send directly to these 2 guys.I even don't want my share.I just want to get out of this situation.
     
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    Black Hat Expert BANNED BANNED

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    I kindly request the members not to post unless and until they are involved.I'm not going any where guys,even i got scammed very big and i know the pain.i don't want to loose my account which i build from years.Please co operate with me.I will be solving these two issues as soon as possible.I Kindly request old salt to solve this issue.I will Try my best to refund these guys.
     
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    I can confirm that another member DOES indeed owe Black Hat Expert money that he should be wiring very soon. (It should have been sent quite a bit ago). I have a SL that I will wait 24 more hours before I approve it, giving the member one more chance to send the refund.

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  7. bugsyy

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    So, you are saying you offered me VCC and if cant redeem u will refund me ? And I asked you to add VCC in bing accts ? Are you for real ? After I have been patience with you for almost a month now and being generous as much as I can by giving you the time you need you come now and lie again ? I will not even argue you anymore, you are dishonest liar. Logs & screen shoots for the whole conversation is available so everyone knows the truth.

    I paid 140$ for one aged verified bing account loaded with 100$ balance. You came after 3 weeks with your postpay account which clearly not what we agreed about and you know that very well thats why when I refused to take it you said its a gift for the time I have been waiting and still I have refused and didnt accept and asked for refund and I clearly said "No thank you I dont need your gift". And now you want to deduct ? How about deduct my western union fees too which I lost to send WU to a scammer ?

    And by the way, I don't give a crap about how much you invest to get such account or what did you do trying to deliver what I paid for. Thats your fault from the beginning to offer something you don't have and don't even know where to get from. Its simple, I paid for account you said you have, you promised your VCC accepted by bing and if it didn't you will refund me in 2 day maximum. So running around trying to buy it somewhere else is your problem. Stop offering people what you don't have.

    And Stop saying your honest, Actions speaks louder than words. And so far you have proved many times that you have no idea how a straight hones man act like. The least you can do is to answer the people you owe who gave you all the time you need even if you don't have the money do not block them, The fact you are in touch show respect. But of-course, you only come online when you beg for more time that's the only time you pretend to be nice honest after that you don't even answer which is very cheap by the way. So Excuse me if I insulted you but I have no respect for man with such attitude who give empty promises and lie all the time try to hide and run away. I have my reason! You think you are a smart but you underestimate my intelligence. Coz I know from first day you are lying and don't have what I need you know why ? Because If a guy is offering too much shit, probably he's full of shit :) Thats why I gave you all the time you need and was waiting until you do your job as a middle man & hopefully get the job done. But you was just buying time busy scamming mercury01 :)
     
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    IF you say so of-course we wait then . But still this has nothing to do with our money. He took my money and spend it, he did not gave it to that member that owe him money!

    I have listened to all his type of excuses for one month now and I can assure you he had the chance to refund me before and he didnt. And the proof is very simple my deal was one month ago and the other member mercury01 paid him 2 weeks ago. By that time he asked me for alternative payment Perfect money , skrill or bitcoin and begged me not to post coz hes expecting payment so I accepted bitcoin. As I see now, he did get the payment Perfect money and still didnt exchange and send me bitcoin. He just came back after few days asking to send western union which he could not do for over 3 weeks .

    Honestly, after I saw mercury01 post and checked dates its all clear now why he was begging me to wait and dont post at forums and after that didnt even bother to answer me. He was just buying time and I know hes doing the same now but whatever you say :)
     
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    Trust me, I get that this didn't go well and shouldn't have gone this way, but I am looking at what should at least be the end of this ordeal and finally get you both refunded.

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    Hello,Its really very easy to point out a person but before doing that you have to think of it.you never accepted payment in perfect money or bitcoin or paypal which i offered you.I might have send you the payments when i get in my order.You said you want only in western union.later after few days i mean recently you accepted other payment method.I actually said i can sell you bing vcc.yes i do sell vcc and it accepts every where i thought even bing accepts it but you convinced me to sell bing accounts and you said you will pay commission for each account.I thought of doing so but bing dint accepted and i have proof that i invested some money in the research as you said that if this works out we both can make good money.I have a proofs that i did a research and i invested.I even gave purchased and gave you bing post pay account which you rejected and asked for refund again.I even gave you that account for free as I'm delaying to send your money.I even have screen shots for that.

    Now i got a message on my skype that you will be needing bing post pay accounts regularly.I can provide you those accounts for the money i owe you and i can also consider the first account which i gave you is for free.You can even buy accounts from me on regular basis and pay me after getting your accounts.I'm telling this just because you messaged me on skype that you need such accounts? If you need refund i kindly request you to wait for few days.
     
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    For the second user mercury,only thing i can offer is refund but its huge money.I was really waiting for my money from the user who owes me.If the first member accepts accounts which he messaged me on Skype i will solve his issue today.
     
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    I will not argue with you anymore, you are really something and its either you are very stupid or trying to be smart and play around mind games. Either ways, its very simple, you took money and promised refund in 2 days which I didn't get until now after a month.

    As for your story about expecting payment, I have heard same story since the first week many times and even though you got money later from mercury01 you still didnt pay me back. You should come with another story coz that one is weak and does not even make sense.

    Even if that guy owe you, thats your issue not ours. You took our money in your pocket you didnt gave it to that guy who owe you so its totally different money and different deals, connecting all together and make it sounds like thats the only way to make money for you is very lame. you are alive, right ? you are eating ? you can stop eating for a couple days and pay what you owe :)


    My offer was before we post here and before you start lying. Am not even interested anymore and waiting more days is not your call , belong to admins I have already waited a month until now. I dont believe a word you say , you are just a liar who buy time.
     
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    black hat expert i will not argue with you , just refund us.
     
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    @Black Hat Expert I suggest refunding, or It'll more than likely end up costing you your account.
     
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    bugsyy please send me a IM id or skype id, i cannt send pm
     
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    Hello sir,I was actually waiting for my money these days.Old salt asked me to make some initial payments to both the users and there after some additional payments.I spoke to the user bugsyy and today I'm going to send him $100 and i tried contacting mercury on skype.I will get back and post update here as soon as i refund.
     
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    Trust me, I am not excusing the time table above but I also do ask Mercury01 and Bugsyy to take int account that Black Hat Expert has been waiting for Oxonbeef to send him $600 in this thread. Obviously, the fact that he has not received his money does not alleviate his debt to both of you, I just ask that you try to work with him so that he can make an arrangement that everyone can live with. You get repaid over time and he gets to keep his account.

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    Up on my agreement to pay some initial amounts i spoke to both the users and the user bugsyy asked a initial payment of $100.He paid me $140 through western union and he paid $30 taxes and now I'm refunding him in full $170.I already refunded him $100 and waiting for his approval to send the remaining balance.The other user mercury asked me to send initial payment of $150 though western union so i have to arrange $180 which includes fees so i asked her some little time.I will try to send her as soon as possible.I understand that i won't get my money from the user who owes me money and I'm working hard and trying my best to pay.I'm waiting for the user bugsyy confirmation that he received money.

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    I confirm user Black hat expert did send me two transfers through paypal 50$ + 49$ , And he promised to send the rest of 170$ as we agreed in the next days. I will keep you updated
     
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    Oldsalt , no i did not recive initial payment, he lie me every day , he say "today i send you western union" the next day he say "today i send you for sure perfect money" and so on :((. i have and agreement with him to send me 150 USD and now he want to send me 120 but he lie every day like i said :(
     
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