Blackhat Labour Work?

Do you guys do labour work such as well "whitehat"? Or do you do some automate some? I for one, I only write unique articles then I let the Blackhat tools do the rest! W/about u guys.

ALL content except for my personal blog is outsourced. Currently I spend around $1000 a month on articles. I also have a split partnership on traffic middle man sites where I pay 30% revenue earned with him. It is a bit confusing but the guy works a fulltime job, one he likes and makes a pretty damn good salary from so, so far I haven't ran into the dilemna of losing him.

He's great though. I do all the niche and keyword research, I create sub ids and all the tracking necessary to determine and seperate our profits from my own personal profits. As far as lenses, hubpages, usfreeads, he creates the accounts and sends me the logins except in Usfreeads where he has access to my personal premium account. I really utilize him with blogger. I am not allowed to utilize their services so he's a lifesaver their. I have a dedicated server in which he is not allowed access to but does get to access my wordpress blogs as a user so that he can make changes.

He's a lifesaver.

Have another partner which I run a membership site on Paydotcom and one on Clickbank as well. This is pretty easy though. I handle the interior of the sites as well as writing the email autoresponder courses for each site. (there's around 100 loaded for each in a year). He handles refunds and affiliate payments thru the PDC interface and of course Clickbank handles their shit, so we really do not have much work.

As far as automating linkbuilding I use my middle man site guy. He has a copy of directory submitter, trackback generator, access to my Article marketer publisher's account and access to ALL my ezine articles accounts. He also has social bookmarking site logins setup for us.

As far as PPC, when I am affiliate marketing I currently use a few pieces of software (some published, some not) that allows me to make ads in bulk and upload them with the Adwords editor. I can pretty much replicate 500 ads across Google, Yahoo, and MSN with a monthly membership I am a part of. If it comes down to CPA from PPC, I much rather do it manually and then import right quick into the other two engines. If I promote on a second tier engine, I do this manually.

Automation is great, but I would not trade it for a trusted partner for anything.

I try to outsource as much as possible. But for me, good help is hard to find. I'm still searching for a good partner.

Ruck, How do you keep track of all your sites/accounts? Do you use a specialized software or just a spreadsheet?

Yep...partners and outsourcing always help!

I have a shitload of printed documents. I print everything from passwords to email logins to databases. I then of course utilize Roboform as a password manager, and alot of my performancing tracking runs thru Microsoft Excel.

Ruck said:

I really utilize him with blogger. I am not allowed to utilize their services so he's a lifesaver their.

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I have always wanted to hear the story about you and blogger. I've a feeling it'll be a long wait for me though.

Ah well!
Sine

Well,

I think I have posted the full story in the RJ forum. I really cannot remember.

Here's the condensed and embarrassing version. I was using a friends program ALOT. Joe Tierney's Bloggergenerator. Allegedly they said I was near the 3 million blog mark. I honestly cannot tell you how many I had. Joe had told me to hire some indians so I did. 5 of them to be exact and each one of them was making blogs for me everyday. I was creating the one "nice" blog to get ranked high in search engines. At the time it took like less than 2 weeks in MSN and Google to get first page. So I built like 200-300 blogs linking into my pretty blog. As soon as I started seeing adsense earnings coming in I stripped the templates and had HTML redirects to affiliate programs.

Not a little either. We are talking thousands. I think I had 2000+ blogs on one account lol. That's how hard I went without caring. Anyway accessing blogger thru proxy after thier nice little email became a pain so I took their advice and just stayed off the site.

Ruck said:

Well,

I think I have posted the full story in the RJ forum. I really cannot remember.

Here's the condensed and embarrassing version. I was using a friends program ALOT. Joe Tierney's Bloggergenerator. Allegedly they said I was near the 3 million blog mark. I honestly cannot tell you how many I had. Joe had told me to hire some indians so I did. 5 of them to be exact and each one of them was making blogs for me everyday. I was creating the one "nice" blog to get ranked high in search engines. At the time it took like less than 2 weeks in MSN and Google to get first page. So I built like 200-300 blogs linking into my pretty blog. As soon as I started seeing adsense earnings coming in I stripped the templates and had HTML redirects to affiliate programs.

Not a little either. We are talking thousands. I think I had 2000+ blogs on one account lol. That's how hard I went without caring. Anyway accessing blogger thru proxy after thier nice little email became a pain so I took their advice and just stayed off the site.

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wow, i have a story about blogger similar to this, but the proxy part is easy for me!

Did you lose a $17,000+ check from Clickbank because you were accused of spamming?

Ruck said:

Did you lose a $17,000+ check from Clickbank because you were accused of spamming?

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well no, no technically

I freaked a bit on that one. I lost another Clickbank account ($3400) in the myspace reign. I am kind of prone to getting into shit.

wow, oooow, thats serious cash man! Im scared now. I better start investing in forex exchange (lol) but seriously, are the catching up with the blackhatters?

Nah,

I would attribute the mistakes to the mass scale I was on man. I had like every blog tied to just one account. Had I spread it out, probably would have been fine. The myspace thing happened when I switched products and the affiliate url in the browser revealed my Clickbank nickname and some go-happy hardcore reported me.