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BlackHat I Need Your Advice Please

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by sarkson15, Mar 17, 2016.

  1. sarkson15

    sarkson15 Newbie

    Mar 14, 2016
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    How's everyone here doing?

    So I recently joined BHW because I plan to start my own online venture. After following this forum for a few months devouring all I could, I decided the best thing for me to do was start or else I'd be stuck in the analysis phase and still be exactly where I am 1 year from now, which is no where.

    Anyway, I'm here to ask for advice and I figured since the post is vague, it made sense to drop it in the Lounge.

    I own 3 domains along with all the social media handles. They are all brandable and easy to spell, recall and pronounce. None of that "plenq" or "kopykween" nonsense (seriously when I see those names I want to immediately harm my goldfish).

    The reason I bought the domains (purchased at different times in the last year) was because I thought out of an idea for the website around topics that interested me. For each one I did an in-depth analysis over a weekend and planned out everything from content to monetizing. The only thing I never did was execute (I know, I know, don't say it).

    Here's a breakdown on each one, and no I don't worry about people stealing stuff because the last person that stole from me is being loved in jail #karma:

    Fitness - Unlike most people who target weight loss, I wanted to target weight gain i.e. powerlifters/bodybuilders. The plan for this was to build a brand and offer apparel, supps and sponsorships. The idea would be to use instagram to build up the brand then funnel folks to my own website where they could snag my gear. Why do I think it would be successful? Well I ran a survey with a logo I created and the feedback was 87% positive (13% of people are allergic to exercise and are obese).

    What have I done with this up to this point? Started an instagram page that has about 30 pics, 40 followers, 27 following. Every pic gets an average of 19 likes and 7 comments. How am I growing? I find bodybuilders (m&f) and comment on their posts. I interact with them a few times, like their pics and then they follow me and I follow back (mindblowing). I have contemplated shoutouts and bots but I'm still undecided about those tools because of the propensity to attract, well...tools. I'd be happy with 1000 real followers who'd rep my own brand on their pages of 10-50k followers and my engagement is stellar for now even with just the small amount of fans.

    Where do I go from here? I have no idea what to do at this point because I just set up a simple coming soon page for the website and the instagram is only about 12 days old. Perhaps you all have some insight.

    Luxury/Lifestyle - There's a city that I love to visit and I thought I'd create a brand around it. Bear with me here. A lot of high net worth individuals live and visit this city, think Singapore. Unlike most luxury instagram accounts that post (and repost) the same stuff i.e. ferrari, hot girl, lambo, hot girl, amg wagen, etc, I wanted to make it a combination of the finer things plus highlight other aspects. So let's say it's Singapore (not the city btw), I'd post about restaurants, elite bars/clubs, hotels, spas, you get the point. It would all be built and focused on that entire city. Essentially I will become the luxury authority for that city. Think Robb Report but only for Singapore.

    What have I done so far? Set up a coming soon page, and built out an instagram with about 39 pics, 53 followers, 19 following. For this one I used the same strategy as the fitness i.e. comment, like, follow. I guess more people are into lifestyle than picking up a 45 plate because I got a lot of followers here. It was higher but like clock work after a day or two, those using the bots drop off so that leaves the other engaged followers. It's funny to because I posted a picture of a statue and I received a comment saying "cool shot. you look amazing. more, more, more." W...T...H! LOL. Seriously, if you're reading this and are one of those people on a "My Instagram Journey", I hope you're not doing this.

    Where do I go from here? My plan was to use this to funnel folks to the website. But also I was going to build it out and then contact high end stores in the city and offer them my advertising services. Bespoke stores, hotels, resorts could all be featured on my website and I'd write about them and then sell them ad space or just do some high end affiliate sales. I really love this idea but I'm stuck on the instagram phase and I have no clue how to proceed even though I have my entire strategy planned out. I guess what's stopping me is the whole traffic and luxury angle. I can churn out articles but the traffic has me like the matrix.

    Adult Relations
    - The idea around this is to build out a mini authority, get professionals to do posts or even interview them. Then sell info products but none of that "get your ex back" or "text your ex" bullpoop. If the person is gone, move the heck on is what I say. Earth has around 7 billion people so take your pick. But I digress.

    What have I done so far? Nothing. Just have the domain, the social stuff and that's it. TBH I am on the fence about this because I have no idea how to reach my audience. By the way, I know who my audience is. Furthermore, I also know that when you mention adult stuff at a party, everyone looks at you like you're the second coming of Lucifer. Basically, people still think its taboo. I also find it funny, no just plain ridiculous that people stay together, get married and are unhappy because action doesn't happen, period. They spend tons on therapists or counselling or what not. Good god, you thought IM is bad with the gurus? Hell it's only because we don't need certification for this stuff but could you imagine what would happen if we needed to be licensed? I'd ask the goldfish to eat me.

    Ultimately, I would like to make the adult website into something because I'm passionate about it, heck who isn't. My angles and the way I see it are not vague and I know my longterm strategy. I just don't have any idea how to execute.


    Well folks, that's my situation in a nutshell. I'd really appreciate any feedback anyone can give me. Should I abandon all of this nonsense and just stay working the 9-5 until I find something more valuable? How would you proceed if you were me? Ideally I want to make 1 trillion by next weekend so I can bail out the USA economy so please give me actionable advice.

    If you read this far, yay. And if you didn't and you ask a question covered here, I'll eat YOUR goldfish!
  2. Jared255

    Jared255 Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    May 10, 2009
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    I read it. Sort of hard to say if you're on the right track, as I don't do any social and I don't know the specifics of each of your operations, etc.

    That being said, you seem to have a plan established, and I think you'll find something more valuable by trial and error, not necessarily by finding "the secret" one day with reading.

    Me personally, a lot of the time, a project starts off totally idiotic (even though I think it's gold at the start) with just a rough idea (as you have now), then develops into something viable after a bit of trial and error. In your case, I'd bet you take the winner of those three accounts and focus all of your efforts on it, growing it and perhaps branching out, but again I can't say for sure. You might make more accounts, you might switch to something totally different, etc. once you get some knowledge under your belt and learn what works and what doesn't.

    An example, new SEO project I'm working on, I had a low success rate on my first run because it was mostly trial and error, but now I know what works for this particular type of project and the particular strategies I tried using. When I make new properties, my success rate will be much higher. (Intentionally vague)

    As far as quitting your 9-5, again that sort of depends on your situation. I am always for jumping off the deep end, but it's not for everyone and if you're a beginner without previous marketing / internet experience, it might not be the most intelligent thing to do, especially if you have people depending on you. Also, it is exponentially easier to do IM when you have some startup funds, so keep that in mind.

    Not really a post with actionable advice because I don't think I (or anyone else) can tell you exactly what to do, those are just my rough thoughts, take them with a grain of salt. Apologies if I misunderstood anything you wrote, just read it over once. Cheers and good luck
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  3. sarkson15

    sarkson15 Newbie

    Mar 14, 2016
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    First off, I appreciate that you read it:).

    I do agree that the trial and error method works. Realistically, that's the only way to truly know if something will be a success. And yes, I would absolutely go 100% effort into what works and spend time building it out until it's stable enough before moving onto other projects. Although, having the cash flow from the 9-5 means I can throw more money into testing, which many others might not be able to.

    I didn't want to make a long post as the first one was big enough. I have experience with this area as I have two affiliate websites monetized with Amazon that make a small amount of money each month, enough to buy 2 steak dinners. The good news is I've got no dependents so I get to eat both steaks alone (GF is vegetarian).

    Anyway, I agree that no one will be able to properly respond. Looking back on it, I suppose it was a rather feeble attempt at seeking advice and the post was empty and left much to be desired. Nevertheless, it's out there and your response was nonetheless valuable and I'm grateful that you took the time to at least offer your opinion.
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