Bitcoin goes legit by the IRS

At what point in using digital currency do they then plan to tax us at? Does this mean if i have 1 million in diablo 3 coins, i should be declaring it, and can offset my expenses against it?
 
Fuck the government, why dont we over throw them? Sticking their faces into every and anything they wish

The constitution starts off with "We the people" damn public schools dont teach you that tho
 
It means that the currency, even virtual one, has to be taxed if is becoming a stock/trading tool. I don't think that the ingame coins will be considered the same, unless you want to sell them for real/virtual money. I was sure that will arrive to this - they can't let such a treasure to "run" without applying the tax on the transfers.
 
Which means.. as long as you dont convert Bitcoin to USD there is nothing to tax?
 
Good news that USA wont take them down and use this to get some $$$ for themselves.

No need to worry about USA taking them now from now on i guess. Really good news and if USA approve them others will follow
 
Wonder if it counts as a capital investment that can be written down against profits, doubt it but that would be pretty good.
 
[h=1]IRS Virtual Currency Guidance : Virtual Currency Is Treated as Property for U.S. Federal Tax Purposes; General Rules for Property Transactions Apply[/h] IR-2014-36, March. 25, 2014
WASHINGTON — The Internal Revenue Service today issued a notice providing answers to frequently asked questions (FAQs) on virtual currency, such as bitcoin. These FAQs provide basic information on the U.S. federal tax implications of transactions in, or transactions that use, virtual currency.
In some environments, virtual currency operates like "real" currency -- i.e., the coin and paper money of the United States or of any other country that is designated as legal tender, circulates, and is customarily used and accepted as a medium of exchange in the country of issuance -- but it does not have legal tender status in any jurisdiction.
The notice provides that virtual currency is treated as property for U.S. federal tax purposes. General tax principles that apply to property transactions apply to transactions using virtual currency. Among other things, this means that:

  • Wages paid to employees using virtual currency are taxable to the employee, must be reported by an employer on a Form W-2, and are subject to federal income tax withholding and payroll taxes.
  • Payments using virtual currency made to independent contractors and other service providers are taxable and self-employment tax rules generally apply. Normally, payers must issue Form 1099.
  • The character of gain or loss from the sale or exchange of virtual currency depends on whether the virtual currency is a capital asset in the hands of the taxpayer.
  • A payment made using virtual currency is subject to information reporting to the same extent as any other payment made in property.
Further details, including a set of 16 questions and answers, are in Notice 2014-21, posted today on IRS.gov.

And now regulation will follow and bastardize it.
So they expect you to report and they will charge you capital gains tax.
 
At what point in using digital currency do they then plan to tax us at? Does this mean if i have 1 million in diablo 3 coins, i should be declaring it, and can offset my expenses against it?

Diablo 3 coins do not fall under the IRS's definition of a virtual currency. Why don't you take a few minutes to actually read the IRS's announcement (if you can understand what they are saying)
 
The government wants a hand in anything that they can make money from. This what government are suppose to do... spend spend and spend at the expenses of the people who value add and make the money.
 
I'm not sure what this means for Bitcoins because according to the IRS you should also be declaring money from all activities including all illegal activity income such as drug dealing. In fact the ruling states that this does not confer legal status to Bitcoins, "but it does not have legal tender status in any jurisdiction". It just means they are aware of Bitcoins and they'll get their pound of flesh from anywhere. I assume they expect their money if you cash in and make a profit.
 
And now regulation will follow and bastardize it.
So they expect you to report and they will charge you capital gains tax.

Reporting is ok by me. What I dont understand is how they are going to tax a barter.
If Bitcoin is a property, then I can exchange it for another property without any tax.

And if I can do the above, it makes no sense to use USD and pay taxes.
 
Though I am not into coin trading, but I hope Indian Govt also takes this as an example and legalize the trading too. It's only gonna earn them taxes.
 
Reporting is ok by me. What I dont understand is how they are going to tax a barter.
If Bitcoin is a property, then I can exchange it for another property without any tax.

And if I can do the above, it makes no sense to use USD and pay taxes.


I don't think it will apply here.
Finally, certain types of property are specifically excluded from Section 1031 treatment. Section 1031 does not apply to exchanges of:

  • Inventory or stock in trade
  • Stocks, bonds, or notes
  • Other securities or debt
  • Partnership interests
  • Certificates of trust
http://www.irs.gov/uac/Like-Kind-Exchanges-Under-IRC-Code-Section-1031

I don't know much about US Tax law but isn't any tax liability in a like for like transaction just deferred?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_Revenue_Code_section_1031
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/1031
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Like-kind_exchange
http://homebuying.about.com/od/investmentproperties/a/102008_1031Exch.htm
 
Reporting is ok by me. What I dont understand is how they are going to tax a barter.
If Bitcoin is a property, then I can exchange it for another property without any tax.

And if I can do the above, it makes no sense to use USD and pay taxes.

You are actually supposed to report barters already.
 
Unexpected? What are we missing here? Why would they do this?
 
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