BHW PBN Sellers Are a Joke!!!

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dslatere

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I was looking for PBN for my money site, so I posted on BHW and it became a nightmare. I wrote my requirements clearly. After publishing the post, my account got flooded with messages and notifications within seconds. Everyone is saying they’re an SEO expert with 3 years, 5 years, 10 years, 100 years of experience. Every comment on my post is like “Yes, we have sites according to your requirements.” But out of 75 comments no one has sites according to my requirements. Everyone is trying to sell me sites forcefully. They’re making people fool.

I askd for clean sites, no casino, adult, or massage posting. Everyone shared their lists. When I open the first site, the first post is casino, the first sidebar is casino. I asked for DR 40+, but when I check the actual DR, it’s 10, 5, 0. Even the site name has poker or slots in it. And they keep sending me messages. Sellers are saying “buy them now the DR will increase later.” What??? Who do they think I am, a kid? If DR is 5 today, it’s a DR 5 site. Don’t sell me hope. Am I here to buy a prediction? this market has become full of garbage.

BHW is full of trash now. People are selling services but can’t even read messages. Full of dumbas* sellers. They spammed my inbox. Everyone here is an expert, but expert in spamming. I’m consistently saying I need sites with these requirements, but they keep sending me shit sites. WTF is happening on this forum.
 
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I posted that I need to buy an AWS account and a guy said that he has one and contacted me
After talking for 20 minutes back and forth when I asked for proof he sent me a Google Ads account
I even asked him during our conversation if we are talking about the same thing because something seemed off..
I told him "That is a Google Ads account not an AWS account"
His answer was "Yes"
What the fuck is happening ?
Are this people AI bots or something ?
 
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This is not limited to PBN sellers. Out of the 30 odd sellers I have spoken to (either through WTB/HAF or through messaging them), I ended up working with only 4 or 5. Everyone else was in "bot mode". Just in a rush to make a sale lol
 
You'll find these low quality sellers everywhere. Not an incident isolated to BHW. You'll have to filter out the bad ones and pick one according to your due diligence and needs.
If you feel someone is not delivering what they're advertising, reach out to the support.
 
Don't use WTB or HAF for link building or SEO in general. You'll instantly get bombarded with messages as soon as you post, like you mentioned. It's impossible to go through them all as a buyer. An average thread asking for backlinks gets around 80 replies in the first 24 hours, with 30+ of them coming in within the first couple of minutes/seconds.

For example, the first reply in your thread came in only 15 seconds after you posted a thread, and that reply has 45 words. Who can in 15 seconds read a post and write a 45 word reply? A robot.
 
same i was looking every post and most of the people are spam their sevices which are unrelated to the topic
 
NirvanaWolf said:
You'll find these low quality sellers everywhere. Not an incident isolated to BHW. You'll have to filter out the bad ones and pick one according to your due diligence and needs.
If you feel someone is not delivering what they're advertising, reach out to the support.
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Are support employed by BHW?
Is support a third party?
Are support just AI chatbots these days?

Do support care? Their job is to protect BHW under the guise of helping you.
Do support go far enough?
Could they do better?

Let me put a scenario to you.
I click your signature link (I haven't) and buy 20 links for $1K.
You don't deliver 20 links, you perhaps deliver 3.
Does that poor service reflect badly on this forum?
Does it reflect badly on other sellers on this forum?
Does a user think this is the standard of sellers on here?
Does it drag everybody else down?
If the matter comes to light on this forum (remember the service wasn't bought on this forum so a dispute ticket can't be opened) and support get involved (policing negative feedback), should support protect the standards and reputation of this forum by emailing you and asking if this is true, did this happen?
Or should they just ignore it?
 
dslatere said:
I was looking for PBN for my money site, so I posted on BHW and it became a nightmare. I wrote my requirements clearly. After publishing the post, my account got flooded with messages and notifications within seconds. Everyone is saying they’re an SEO expert with 3 years, 5 years, 10 years, 100 years of experience. Every comment on my post is like “Yes, we have sites according to your requirements.” But out of 75 comments no one has sites according to my requirements. Everyone is trying to sell me sites forcefully. They’re making people fool.

I askd for clean sites, no casino, adult, or massage posting. Everyone shared their lists. When I open the first site, the first post is casino, the first sidebar is casino. I asked for DR 40+, but when I check the actual DR, it’s 10, 5, 0. Even the site name has poker or slots in it. And they keep sending me messages. Sellers are saying “buy them now the DR will increase later.” What??? Who do they think I am, a kid? If DR is 5 today, it’s a DR 5 site. Don’t sell me hope. Am I here to buy a prediction? this market has become full of garbage.

BHW is full of trash now. People are selling services but can’t even read messages. Full of dumbas* sellers. They spammed my inbox. Everyone here is an expert, but expert in spamming. I’m consistently saying I need sites with these requirements, but they keep sending me shit sites. WTF is happening on this forum.
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Then point them out and report them, and we can warn them. We can't do anything if we don't know about it. Have a great holiday season.
 
Mrnewbie said:
Then point them out and report them, and we can warn them. We can't do anything if we don't know about it. Have a great holiday season.
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I did, you did nothing. You said you can't take my word for it, despite having the 3 website URL#s and an email extract showing what was said would be delivered.
So that doesn't work, hence my questions about maintaining quality and integrity.
You'll find I have a threads discussing matters.
 
Those list of questions look like they were asked by someone who just got online. But I'll still answer them.
Mad10 said:
Are support employed by BHW?
Is support a third party?
Are support just AI chatbots these days?

Do support care? Their job is to protect BHW under the guise of helping you.
Do support go far enough?
Could they do better?
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There's an in-house support team. You just need to reach out to them by submitting a support ticket here : https://support.blackhatworld.com/support/tickets/new
You can also DM any mod and they'll guide you in the right direction.

BHW's support is not AI, and they do care. They'll go far enough to help you out. Sometimes beyond what they should be doing.
Mad10 said:
Let me put a scenario to you.
I click your signature link (I haven't) and buy 20 links for $1K.
You don't deliver 20 links, you perhaps deliver 3.
Does that poor service reflect badly on this forum?
Does it reflect badly on other sellers on this forum?
Does a user think this is the standard of sellers on here?
Does it drag everybody else down?
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My signature is just an endorsement for another member who has been around here for a decade. He'll deliver what he advertises. If he doesn't, there is a dispute mechanism to follow. You can open a thread here : https://www.blackhatworld.com/forums/dispute-resolution.31/

If you receive a poor service, that doesn't reflect badly on the forum. BHW is just a facilitator between buyers and sellers. They approve the sales thread when it is as per pre-defined standards, but it is not humanly possible to test everything minutely and no other freelancer website does that. Every platform's got the same mechanism. You didn't receive what you paid for > you report the seller > the platform acts against that seller.
People get scammed on fiverr every day, that doesn't bring the platform down, that doesn't drag other sellers on the platform down.

Mad10 said:
If the matter comes to light on this forum (remember the service wasn't bought on this forum so a dispute ticket can't be opened) and support get involved (policing negative feedback), should support protect the standards and reputation of this forum by emailing you and asking if this is true, did this happen?
Or should they just ignore it?
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Imagine this, you contacted a seller on upwork. Took the conversation out of the platform and entered into a contract with them. The seller scammed you. Upwork is not responsible for that. You need to pursue that legally. A platform cannot police and judge a deal that was not conducted in their marketplace. It is repeatedly advised here to keep the conversation on BHW if you're entering into a deal with a seller here.


Internet is overcrowded with a lot of people trying to make easy money. It is on you to do your due diligence before purchasing anything. And the risks are a part and parcel of this business. You can't expect to be in green all the time.
 
dslatere said:
I was looking for PBN for my money site, so I posted on BHW and it became a nightmare. I wrote my requirements clearly. After publishing the post, my account got flooded with messages and notifications within seconds. Everyone is saying they’re an SEO expert with 3 years, 5 years, 10 years, 100 years of experience. Every comment on my post is like “Yes, we have sites according to your requirements.” But out of 75 comments no one has sites according to my requirements. Everyone is trying to sell me sites forcefully. They’re making people fool.

I askd for clean sites, no casino, adult, or massage posting. Everyone shared their lists. When I open the first site, the first post is casino, the first sidebar is casino. I asked for DR 40+, but when I check the actual DR, it’s 10, 5, 0. Even the site name has poker or slots in it. And they keep sending me messages. Sellers are saying “buy them now the DR will increase later.” What??? Who do they think I am, a kid? If DR is 5 today, it’s a DR 5 site. Don’t sell me hope. Am I here to buy a prediction? this market has become full of garbage.

BHW is full of trash now. People are selling services but can’t even read messages. Full of dumbas* sellers. They spammed my inbox. Everyone here is an expert, but expert in spamming. I’m consistently saying I need sites with these requirements, but they keep sending me shit sites. WTF is happening on this forum.
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If there's WTB/HAF sellers responding who are clearly not following your posted requirements, report the DM. It's clear in the rules that they need to respond based on your requirements. If they only have casino PBN, then they shouldn't even be responding.


Akhazriel said:
I posted that I need to buy an AWS account and a guy said that he has one and contacted me
After talking for 20 minutes back and forth when I asked for proof he sent me a Google Ads account
I even asked him during our conversation if we are talking about the same thing because something seemed off..
I told him "That is a Google Ads account not an AWS account"
His answer was "Yes"
What the fuck is happening ?
Are this people AI bots or something ?
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Report them. They shouldn't even be responding to you if they don't sell what you're requesting.
 
dslatere said:
I was looking for PBN for my money site, so I posted on BHW and it became a nightmare. I wrote my requirements clearly. After publishing the post, my account got flooded with messages and notifications within seconds. Everyone is saying they’re an SEO expert with 3 years, 5 years, 10 years, 100 years of experience. Every comment on my post is like “Yes, we have sites according to your requirements.” But out of 75 comments no one has sites according to my requirements. Everyone is trying to sell me sites forcefully. They’re making people fool.

I askd for clean sites, no casino, adult, or massage posting. Everyone shared their lists. When I open the first site, the first post is casino, the first sidebar is casino. I asked for DR 40+, but when I check the actual DR, it’s 10, 5, 0. Even the site name has poker or slots in it. And they keep sending me messages. Sellers are saying “buy them now the DR will increase later.” What??? Who do they think I am, a kid? If DR is 5 today, it’s a DR 5 site. Don’t sell me hope. Am I here to buy a prediction? this market has become full of garbage.

BHW is full of trash now. People are selling services but can’t even read messages. Full of dumbas* sellers. They spammed my inbox. Everyone here is an expert, but expert in spamming. I’m consistently saying I need sites with these requirements, but they keep sending me shit sites. WTF is happening on this forum.
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1. Always go for the sale and not the traffic. 100 million visitors are worthless when none of them spend money and 100 who do spend money are gold !

2. SEO is a pathetic joke. Google is broken and it has been for a very long time.

3. En-shit-ificaation now rules the Internet. Scammers now dominate and your only choice is to avoid people who say, "Dear" and "Bro".
 
NirvanaWolf said:
Those list of questions look like they were asked by someone who just got online. But I'll still answer them.

There's an in-house support team. You just need to reach out to them by submitting a support ticket here : https://support.blackhatworld.com/support/tickets/new
You can also DM any mod and they'll guide you in the right direction.

BHW's support is not AI, and they do care. They'll go far enough to help you out. Sometimes beyond what they should be doing.

My signature is just an endorsement for another member who has been around here for a decade. He'll deliver what he advertises. If he doesn't, there is a dispute mechanism to follow. You can open a thread here : https://www.blackhatworld.com/forums/dispute-resolution.31/

If you receive a poor service, that doesn't reflect badly on the forum. BHW is just a facilitator between buyers and sellers. They approve the sales thread when it is as per pre-defined standards, but it is not humanly possible to test everything minutely and no other freelancer website does that. Every platform's got the same mechanism. You didn't receive what you paid for > you report the seller > the platform acts against that seller.
People get scammed on fiverr every day, that doesn't bring the platform down, that doesn't drag other sellers on the platform down.


Imagine this, you contacted a seller on upwork. Took the conversation out of the platform and entered into a contract with them. The seller scammed you. Upwork is not responsible for that. You need to pursue that legally. A platform cannot police and judge a deal that was not conducted in their marketplace. It is repeatedly advised here to keep the conversation on BHW if you're entering into a deal with a seller here.


Internet is overcrowded with a lot of people trying to make easy money. It is on you to do your due diligence before purchasing anything. And the risks are a part and parcel of this business. You can't expect to be in green all the time.
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You are confusing responsibilty and not considered reputational damage, which is the important factor here.

Italiana said:
1. Always go for the sale and not the traffic. 100 million visitors are worthless when none of them spend money and 100 who do spend money are gold !

2. SEO is a pathetic joke. Google is broken and it has been for a very long time.

3. En-shit-ificaation now rules the Internet. Scammers now dominate and your only choice is to avoid people who say, "Dear" and "Bro".
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Sounder advice, where others miss the point.
Too many people can only see the literal/
Plenty of 'Bro's' out there!
 
@Mad10
To answer these questions:

Are support employed by BHW? Yes
Is support a third party? No, but they review fairly, fully and promptly
Are support just AI chatbots these days? - No

Do support care? Their job is to protect BHW under the guise of helping you. - They definitely care. Yes, their job is to protect BHW - that means its members and the forum.
Do support go far enough? - We think so, but you have the option to give your feedback when a ticket is resolved
Could they do better? - There's room for improvement in anything.

But this is 100% true:
NirvanaWolf said:
They'll go far enough to help you out. Sometimes beyond what they should be doing.
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Now, you might not always get the answer you want, but it will be fair and in line with our Terms of Use and the forum's rules.
 
Someone knows some differents option that expireddomains.co to find domains to get a future PBN?
 
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