Beware of this 2 persons

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Hi i do not know whether they are bhw member or not. But as i recently scammed by these two persons, i think it will be good to me if i share these two persons details here so rest bhw members will not get scammed by these two people.

I am sharing their email ids, as i do not know their bhw member name. If bhw mods found this violating TOS of bhw, please remove.

First person name is Marian Janik, email id is [email protected] & [email protected].

This person usually purchase facebook fans from various facebook vendors. and after fb vendors gathered fans for this person's fan page , he made charge back in paypal and take all paid money.

He just scammed me $1850 regarding this matter.

He gave me to gather 25000 fans (20000 random + 5000 targeted) for his facebook fan page. I have complete this work within 20 days, then after work complete he made charge back in paypal by claiming fraudulent money transfer from his credit card. I came to know from some other vendors also he doing same thing with them also. If any other bhw member also get scammed by this person, he can also share his info here.

2nd Person name is Antonio Pinto and his email id is [email protected]. He purchased Diamond package from my bhw social bookmarking service thread. Till now i have send him 4 reports. He also made charge back in paypal and claimed that fraudulent payment done from his credit card. He also send me email that he satisfy with my work and its quality.

So as i already received email from these two persons that they satisfy with my work and its quality, but still they made charge back in paypal. I am considering both as online fraud. And perhaps it is their regular work.

So beware of these two peoples.

And also if any one can share any info, how i can avoid these type of things in paypal, it will be a great help for me.
 
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damn dude thats fucked up! you try showing paypal the emails from them saying they were satisfied? =/
 
m0nster said:
damn dude thats fucked up! you try showing paypal the emails from them saying they were satisfied? =/
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I have already done that, i have send all communication email matter to paypal. Right now paypal reviewing this.
 
That is freaking jacked up. Pay for something then do a charge back? Hope PayPal takes care of the problem!
 
sorry to say i think u lost this money if you are only relying on paypal.

you have evidence ur service was good, in my sales i sold clothing, the guy even sent me photos to show him wearing his replica items to show how proud of them he was, then 2 months yes 2 months later , after the event he bought the items for had finished, he did a charge back and pp paid it.

i tried to plead with paypal they paid the guy back out of my funds.

pp are the worse on the net for going with the seller, they see the buyer is always right, and we all know that is not 100% the case.

good luck with this.
 
that is lot of money bro! Hope paypal gets your money back soon.
 
How can these people claim fraudulent money transfer and fraudulent credit card transaction unless someone actually hacked and logged into their accounts and initiated a payment transfer to you. I dont get it. They would have to prove that someone hacked/cracked their details in order to initiate payment to you. So all in all, its all bullshit and PP should be on your side unless they can prove otherwise.
 
mrxinbollywood said:
Hi i do not know whether they are bhw member or not. But as i recently scammed by these two persons, i think it will be good to me if i share these two persons details here so rest bhw members will not get scammed by these two people.

I am sharing their email ids, as i do not know their bhw member name. If bhw mods found this violating TOS of bhw, please remove.

First person name is Marian Janik, email id is [email protected] & [email protected].

This person usually purchase facebook fans from various facebook vendors. and after fb vendors gathered fans for this person's fan page , he made charge back in paypal and take all paid money.

He just scammed me $1850 regarding this matter.

He gave me to gather 25000 fans (20000 random + 5000 targeted) for his facebook fan page. I have complete this work within 20 days, then after work complete he made charge back in paypal by claiming fraudulent money transfer from his credit card. I came to know from some other vendors also he doing same thing with them also. If any other bhw member also get scammed by this person, he can also share his info here.

2nd Person name is Antonio Pinto and his email id is [email protected]. He purchased Diamond package from my bhw social bookmarking service thread. Till now i have send him 4 reports. He also made charge back in paypal and claimed that fraudulent payment done from his credit card. He also send me email that he satisfy with my work and its quality.

So as i already received email from these two persons that they satisfy with my work and its quality, but still they made charge back in paypal. I am considering both as online fraud. And perhaps it is their regular work.

So beware of these two peoples.

And also if any one can share any info, how i can avoid these type of things in paypal, it will be a great help for me.
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All you have to tell PP is you provided a service. And you automatically win. If they opened a dispute thats where you should have put SERVICE. Then the dispute is closed in your favor. I win all my cases like this.

I own a webhosting company. Iv had many people try to charge me back for hosting services via PP. As soon as they open a dispute i type SERVICE in the space provided. PP closes the dispute in my favor.
 
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hey this is too much dude ? Why dont you use moneybrookers, Western Union if thts the issues in trusting these kind of people or best way is ask them to create their own paypal account and transfer money from their account to be safer thn using cc.
 
mikie46 said:
All you have to tell PP is you provided a service. And you automatically win. If they opened a dispute thats where you should have put SERVICE. Then the dispute is closed in your favor. I win all my cases like this.

I own a webhosting company. Iv had many people try to charge me back for hosting services via PP. As soon as they open a dispute i type SERVICE in the space provided. PP closes the dispute in my favor.
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Thanks I have done that in my paypal. Let's hope paypal will solve this asap.
 
Yep, as suggested by others, in the dispute put service and give correct details. You should have your money back by PP.
 
Well that is strange number......I was hit for 1850 from a member that was banned.strange

Dizz
 
Today i received this response from paypal.

Code: 
Using the information you sent us, we are disputing the buyer's request to
reverse the payment.

The buyer's card company has reversed the charges for this payment. The
funds have been removed from your account at this time. If the card company
decides the case in your favour, the funds will be available in your PayPal
account.

The credit card company has charged PayPal a settlement fee for this
chargeback. According to the terms of the PayPal User Agreement, we debited
your PayPal account to cover this fee.
 
Man,

I have been there several times before with ebay sales and services sales. Paypal is really bad about favoring with the seller.

On a side note, I am interested in facebook fan services. I have paid for fans in the past, but that was when the suggest to friends worked. So not sure the prices of the market anymore or how its done.

If you are interested send me an pm. I do usually pay with paypal but can do escrow or anything else you feel safer with.

Not sure if it helps or matters, but the pages I would want to add more fans to already have over 5k fans/likes
 
mikie46 said:
All you have to tell PP is you provided a service. And you automatically win. If they opened a dispute thats where you should have put SERVICE. Then the dispute is closed in your favor. I win all my cases like this.

I own a webhosting company. Iv had many people try to charge me back for hosting services via PP. As soon as they open a dispute i type SERVICE in the space provided. PP closes the dispute in my favor.
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hmmm, that is good to know. That really works?
I am in graphic design and mostly do logos, flyers etc. And have had this happen a couple times. Thanks for the tip
 
It is good practice to make the buyer write a BIG note describing what it is ..
that way later if they try to dispute it, paypal can see the note typed in by the user when they review the transaction.
something like: this is for a service that provides (describe your service) it is not a product that can be shipped etc etc . the more words the better I would say.
 
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