Beware of doing a jv with helloall

AmazinAzn said:

Explain your reasoning. How is this BS?

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He is saying what helloall did was BS

I hate to hear of this. This young man seemed like a great kid to me. He may have gotten in over his head or just didn't understand what was required of him. Ban him? You will not get an 'I' out of me. Unless there is alot more to the story, I would emphatically vote "absolutely not". He is trying his hardest I am sure, but may need more direction from his JV partner. Or what is expected of him.

He didn't scam anybody as far as I can tell. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. He tried his best. Unfortunately, it was not up to Mad's expectations. I am sorry he let you down, but he didn't scam you. He tried.

For everybody voting 'I', to me it is unbelievable. The rest of us haven't screwed up at one point in this? Should we all be banned? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

well if he's not scamming he's spamming

I think two shit list threads would teach anyone a lesson when it reflects in their business. My own diagnosis is that he lacks proper time management, but banning isn't substantial in this case, in my opinion. I hope you didn't loose a cent Madinaz, if you did, it'll possibly be grounds for banishment. Getjohn, sorry to hear that, if it's true... if you feel burdened enough you can also contact the staff.

Thanks for the warning. This does suck, because it is hard to tell who you can and can not work with. I am at the point that if it is not a mod, you cant trust anything that is said.

The EPN account jacking is grounds for banning

I'm not saying ban him I just think he shouldn't be doing jv's if he can't live up to his end. I'm only out $20 and an ebook so no big deal. The lesson here is if you get in a partnership at least do the things you say you will or say it's to much I can't do it

Love to hear his response. I see he's been on after this thread was up

this is like how many times i have read something like "got scammed by helloall"

what's with helloall anyway and why are there still people JV-ing with him?

Just ip range ban the guy it easy to be a junior member I always keep my postcount low because jr. member is over-rated lol

Madinaz, thank you for taking your time and do this for all the members. Personally I would have never done business with a 16 yr old. But there are others who would. Honestly, when I saw his thread where he`s "offering" coaching it made me puke. Why? Just take a look at his posts, when it comes down to making money all he says is "The best way to make money is selling crap books about making money". Now what does that say about him?

I was personally thinking of doing the same JV with the guy.
thanx mad for giving out a warning.
kudos to the exec.vip


also these are the guys who make jr.vip's look like dp members.

and he hasnt responded to this post either? something not right and also i agree. lately there has been a few jr vips taking the piss. i say bring the ban hammer down on them all. not all jr's but some of them that need seeing to.
just shows u cannot many people nowadays

graphicnut said:

and yet hes trying to "coach" aswell makes me laugh so hard. I agree on a better system for jr vip for sure. Need to weed the week ones out

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Maybe he is coaching on how to successfully scam/spam people and get pizzas for free..

aliskorn said:

Madinaz, thank you for taking your time and do this for all the members. Personally I would have never done business with a 16 yr old.

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That isn't even what did it for me.

I got all I needed to know about him when I pushed him a little bit. He's 16 and I wanted to know exactly how "old" he really was so I questioned him in a criticizing way about one of his posts and I found out he really is "16".

It's the fact that he still handles him self in the business world like a teen and not like a professional. He doesn't take criticism well at all and in one post when he got a couple of negative reviews, his response was "fine i'll stop doing it gawd!" I'm not sure if he's got good intentions or not but in my opinion he needs to go.

Between the posts about him giving out free stuff, free coaching, then asking people to do business with him because he has a bad PayPal or something.. and when I questioned him about what he was doing to get PayPal resolved, he said he got mad at the lady from PayPal and just hung up.. yeah this kid sounds like a real business class winner.

Something is just phishy all around about the kid/guy w/e or who ever he may really be.. I just notice that he's CONSTANTLY asking for people to give him stuff or buy him things and he's turning around constantly offering JVs or help to other members. His intentions may be good, but Helloall if you do ever read this thread, I think you'd be better off in other forums because from the sounds of this thread, you've burned a few bridges and Executive VIPs none the less. When you burn bridges with people with some high reputation, you're pretty much done and you've blown any chance of earning yourself some good trust here.

My advice to you: Handle yourself more professionally.. just because you're 16/15 or w/e doesn't mean you have to act like it.

Owww shit!!

No wonder it takes forever for him to sell my rehashed e-book. He did replied my PM's but that was just after I followed up with him.

And just yesterday he explains that he's trying to lift up paypal balance limitation from his paypal account. He's Jr Vip and he don't know about upgrading paypal account to premier account in order to lift up the limited paypal?

Helloall..care to explain here, buddy? you said you'll makethe sales page and other stuff yet I found out that you were looking for freelancer to make sales page for you (in the "hire a freelancer" section).

If you don't want to sell the e-book or don't have the capability to sell it, then just say it to me. I know that my e-book is rehashed (as I remember you do offering to sell people's rehashed e-book).

Sorry guys but most of you are very unprofessional.....mostly the smaller members yellin all the time we are a big family.I think they dont know what a real family is.In a family you share if somebody else dont have much money and you share it for free or you are waiting till he gets up.Here you wont get money or a professional tool for free.Why ? Because its a Community about making money and i dont count anybody of you guys as my family.Its just a good place to make business.Forgat about the stupid family stuff.You are also respecting ranks in this messageboard like they would be gods in internetmarketing.I have to destroy your dreams.Big players are only people making hundresds of thousand dollars a day.Some here are making for sure nice money too but stop looking at ranks.A JrVIP is nothing its just 100 posts and 100$.Who cant pay it?????Even the biggest noob can if he want to.Myself i'm for about 6 weeks here and all i can say my best deals i made with "noobs" in this messageboard and the shittiest with the JrVIP's who thinks they eat the knowledge after getting the JrVIP and trying to take high prices because of their status....There are REALLY many webmasters out who are very professional but dont even have 10 posts cause they're just reading and working and dont need any rank to show somebody how good they are or have to tell people how much they are earning.I never saw a good earning webmaster telling about his income.
So please do me a favour STOP running after the ranks.......and reyellin what a highrank is saying.
Helloall was also yellin very load about how good he is and here you can see his real face.......

unknownn said:

Sorry guys but most of you are very unprofessional.....mostly the smaller members yellin all the time we are a big family.I think they dont know what a real family is.In a family you share if somebody else dont have much money and you share it for free or you are waiting till he gets up.Here you wont get money or a professional tool for free.Why ? Because its a Community about making money and i dont count anybody of you guys as my family.Its just a good place to make business.Forgat about the stupid family stuff.You are also respecting ranks in this messageboard like they would be gods in internetmarketing.I have to destroy your dreams.Big players are only people making hundresds of thousand dollars a day.Some here are making for sure nice money too but stop looking at ranks.A JrVIP is nothing its just 100 posts and 100$.Who cant pay it?????Even the biggest noob can if he want to.Myself i'm for about 6 weeks here and all i can say my best deals i made with "noobs" in this messageboard and the shittiest with the JrVIP's who thinks they eat the knowledge after getting the JrVIP and trying to take high prices because of their status....There are REALLY many webmasters out who are very professional but dont even have 10 posts cause they're just reading and working and dont need any rank to show somebody how good they are or have to tell people how much they are earning.I never saw a good earning webmaster telling about his income.
So please do me a favour STOP running after the ranks.......and reyellin what a highrank is saying.
Helloall was also yellin very load about how good he is and here you can see his real face.......

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Information is shared here freely. Is it our fault if you do not take it a step further and actually do something? A family looks out for each other, sure, and will help you along the way, but give you everything you need? No. That's absurd. If you owned a car dealership, would you be more willing to give your family member a car or information on how to get the best deal? Besides, different families work differently, and the best thing this family can do for its members is offer valuable information. And tools ARE provided here; just because you can't have the latest and greatest does not mean the tools are not provided here for you to succeed. I do agree about the hard working webmaster and those who don't tell their income; some of the more prosperous people do not have to hold rank, tell their income, or do anything else to raise praise and attention to themselves. They don't need to because they are earning so why bother with the props from online mates we may never see? Just my two cents. Oh yeh and helloall should explain himself. Whether the OP thinks he should be banned or not, he should still have to answer for his actions so others are not left in the cold [others who may not be able to afford the loss] with him.

sorry but in my eyes thats not a family because of sharing some tools.A family would also help you with funds if you need to get started or if you get in trouble and many other points which this messageboard cant afford.Its a great Community for making money but its definetly not a family.
Ok this is my last post i will go back to work.
See ya

BRING EM' OUT, BRING EM' OUT....

I'm really looking forward to his response....

WHAT YA GOT HELLOALL ???

I do agree, that was really shitty.... and i'd say (being a second offender) bring the banhammer down.... but it's not my call... it's Mod's call....

Leave it up to the almighty mods & admins !!!! They rock!!

unknownn said:

sorry but in my eyes thats not a family because of sharing some tools.A family would also help you with funds if you need to get started or if you get in trouble and many other points which this messageboard cant afford.Its a great Community for making money but its definetly not a family.
Ok this is my last post i will go back to work.
See ya

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Not ranting here. Just see this as a fraternity then. We give each other tools (so you can keep your money for the online biz), and we give advices based on past experiences (thus again, saving you money from not doing the same mistakes). You can learn a lot, but there will not be any spoon-feeding unless offered by a member who is willing to freely teach something to a small group. Anyway, the thread is about something else.

I agree something must be done. There is just too many members who have had bad experiences lately.