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Discussion in 'Making Money' started by Dillusion, Sep 30, 2009.

  1. Dillusion

    Dillusion BANNED BANNED

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    Here's the deal, I have 3 Betfair accounts loaded with money, $2100, $1740, $890 respectfully, I have been testing some arbitrage methods, and made quite some money.

    Now my problem is this, since I already have other betfair account registered in my name for a long time, I assume I cannot send my personal ID to those other accounts, so the matter at hand is that I have a total of $4730 that are rendered useless since I cannot withdraw the money from a non age verified account.

    Is there any place where I can sell these accounts in return for the money they have inside them?

    Or is there actually some means of verify the accounts via a blackhat method?

    Any help will be highly appreciate it!

    Thanks

    Dillusion
     
  2. crunch

    crunch Junior Member

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    when i used BF around 5 years ago , i transfered money between my accounts by making stupid odds bet on an obscure market that i knew no one would take and take the bet with the other account. Not sure if this still works as dont use bf now.
     
  3. Geetfaux

    Geetfaux Super Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    There's ways to get the cash out, give me some more info & I can maybe help you out
     
  4. Dillusion

    Dillusion BANNED BANNED

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    But that can actually work both ways, using that scheme, you may actually ending up loading even more money into the unverified accounts, plus there would actually have to be a few dozens of bets to successfully transfer the money between the accounts, since most bets have a maximum value that is rather small, and in the event of laying bets you would have to have a considerable liability to successfully transfer money scattered over 3 accounts.

    And on top of all this, won't the transfer of such a large sum of money draw attention and eventually get all the accounts banned?
     
  5. Dillusion

    Dillusion BANNED BANNED

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    What kind of info will you need, I'm not so comfortable sharing the name of my accounts since I do not know who else may be watching and who is to trust or not, I can very well share my accounts with someone and this someone simply report my accounts to BF or something, I've heard about similar situations before.

    Anyway, what would this withdraw method consist of?
     
  6. Geetfaux

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    Info like...Whos name is on the other accounts etc..You said you had one in your name & two others, do you own the other two in your name?
     
  7. Dillusion

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    I have one account registered and age verified in my name, that account has some $10 there, haven't used it for over an year.

    I have 3 other accounts that I made a few weeks ago using fake info invented by myself, I charged those accounts using the same paypal account (with different emails of course), I've been experimenting some arbitrage methods and sometimes even gambling out of luck, I've loaded $100 to each account when I created them, mainly because I totally forgot about the age verification issue and thought that I could withdraw the money just as simply as I deposited it.

    Anyway, I've been to lucky (or successful) and made the money I referred in my OP, and now I tried to cashout and I came across the age verification thing, where I have to either fill in a REAL visa or mastercard credit card (which I do not have) or to submit my personal ID, which I cannot do since I already submitted to that other 1 year old account.

    What are my options here?
     
  8. Geetfaux

    Geetfaux Super Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    I'm guessing you can't withdraw because you haven't deposited enough so the options are slightly limited now, normally you can phone/email them explaining what has happened and you want to withdraw via wire but you may be able to get around that with a little social engineering via e-mail. There are other options but give me your IM and we can talk on there.
     
  9. ohmannomma

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    i think that the smarter way would be trying to bet against yourself until you riverse the money in the account you can cash out with, or sell them to me for a fraction of the amounts ;)
     
  10. jsmith00075

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    An off topic comment.. Didn't know that Betfair arbitrage was actually working.. :/
     
  11. three3s

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    From what I understand you have a long tetm betfair account you use which is why you can't have these other accounts associated with it? If this si the case then all you ahve to do is get a family member/trusted friend and give them the usernames/passwords to the 3 problem accounts.

    Then you from your home, open up a heads up poker cash game table. While on a mobile phone to your friend, have them log in from their home to the other account. Discuss your hands, or to be honests it's not likely betfair will even look in to it so just have him push his stack leaving all but $1. Then you come over the top with your stack, get him to fold. This leaves the old account with a dollar then just run an all in or something til youg et the full amount.

    Repeat with other 2 accounts, you then have all the money funnelled in to your long term account which you can surely withdraw money from.

    EDIT: Another thing, I also wasn't aware there was still money in Betfair arbitrage. OP willing to share any techniques or any good resources where you first got in to this? I've tried this a couple fo times in the pasta nd haven't really got anywhere.
     
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  12. martasanto45

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    so if you verify those accounts with an id you will be able to withdrawl to your paypal?
    i can make real documents with the name on the fake BF accounts and paypal's with the fake name too

    pm me any instant messenger so we can discuss it better
     
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  13. thecamshow

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    What could I possibly do to have you send me $50 on betfair? Haha, only kidding. I dont think there is any venue online to sell these accounts but I could be wrong. Best option is to do a Joint Venture with a respected BHW member and have them use their ID and info to verify the accounts, cash out, and give them a portion of the withdrawal amount.
     
  14. kypter05

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    ok - sorry you are in this position but as non gambler i cant figure this op story out:

    why did you not fund your original verified bf ac with paypal in the first place instead of starting 3 new ac's?

    Did i read right that you only started with $100 in each of the 3 new ac's?

    So how did you turn $100 ($300) in $2100, $1740, $890 = $4730 even with arbing i thought you only quarantee a small ROI every arb bet you find so to turn $100 in those large amounts would take 100's of successful arb bets or you made some other big bets and keep like doubling your stake?

    Hope you find a solution to get your $ - i know bf nornally requires a different bank ac / credit card for each bf ac

    You should create a gambling guide and sell it via clickbank or something with the amazing ROI you achieved :)
     
  15. minute80

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    I don't know what most of you are talking about, so let me give my 2 cents. First, to make things straight, Betfair doesn't care on how much money you have on your account, since their ass is not on the line: its others people money. Having that said, I don't see any particular reason why you opened 3 accounts: some people have over 150k EUR on their accounts and haven't done the same thing. Now, to actually help you...Betfair is different than other bookies, since it doesn't have a booking fee, to be exact, prices are solely determined by users, and Betfair only takes 5% of winning bet. So, find a match with lot of money in game, top 5 european soccer leagues or tennis matches between top players (or any other such event). After that you will usually find a team or person that is going to win a match, for example ManU - Bolton, you would monitor ManU. One thing that I forgot, always do this prematch, so you don't get kicked by price fluctuations. Lets say that ManU is 1.24 on Back side and 1.26 on Lay side. Since we expect ManU to win, you Back from the account you want your money to, and Lay from the account you are taking your money from. Either way you will win, and lose only 5% of Betfair commision. Don't follow the advice on betting on something with high odds, since there will be only a small amount of money available, and price fluctuations could kill you.
    Now, this seems as slow process, but on Saturdays and Sundays you can do this multiple times, and will surely move money faster than any other way.
     
  16. quizzey

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    This won't work as he would need to have money in both accounts to cover the bets and he only has a very small amount in his verified account, so he would need to top it up to use this method which sort of defeats the objective.
     
  17. voidale

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    if you can change infos change to family names ;>
     
  18. minute80

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    That will work, because it is a very small chance that ManU will lose, and he will be building his legal account slowly. I never said that he will be able to move the whole amount at once. He can also lend some money from somebody, and in three or so steps try to move substantial amount from other accounts.


     
  19. GloCk99

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    This is the answer right here: Genius.

    One small thing to add thought do this over time with people in random locations around the world, they will use pattern software so play it well and this could be pulled off...
     
  20. CMS2009

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    The poker method is the correct method to transfer the money. Dont worry about making it look good to betfair, they simply dont give a fuck. They'll get their house fee for the tourney, and after that its fuck all odds to them who wins, loses or draws. Simply, using two computers, or a friends play heads up poker, starting with the 10$ you have in the account you need the money in, play a $10 heads up game against yout other account, making sure you blind off you stack with the other account. Then a 20$, and keep on going. It will take an hour or so, and you'll lose 50$ or so in tourney fees, but theres no risk involved AT ALL.

    I know a guy who makes money in a dubious (to say the least) manner, banks it in numbered accounts in europe, and then wins it off himself and transfers it to this uk account....mega clean, and mega tax free. If the tax man ever comes looking, he'll look like a poker prodigy!.....and not a drug dealer/arms dealer/human trafficer/pimp/extortionist or whatever other dubious activities he may, or may not get up to lol