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Best way to find keyword competition?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Kasun0777, Jul 2, 2017.

  1. Kasun0777

    Kasun0777 Junior Member

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    I optimized with more softwares and tools. But the results are coming deferentially. I think the optimize top results by manually is the best way. But I'm not specialize to optimize like that.

    What you think and how you expertise,
    - Which techniques/methods we can use for?
    - Which value for each factors?
     
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    Personally I like Ahrefs keyword comp. I find it easy to find keywords with 0 com, and 100 or so traffic. And going off Ahrefs 0 comp, I have found many easy to rank keywords. However, there are people who would disagree.
     
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    Agree, I use Ahrefs, plus then follow up with Keysearch ( and sometimes another couple of tools too) but those 2 seem to work well together for me.
     
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    Well I find that Semrush has a complete different keyword difficulty from Ahrefs (before anyone gets confused, yeah I know Semrush was not mentioned) However in my trails (obviously not big masivo trials like Matty W and all the others who are tracking 10b sites a day for that affiliate click) I found Ahrefs to be quite accurate. I found when it say 0, a few irrelevant blog comments would bring the keyworks into play. Sign up to Ahrefs here.
     
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    yes I was wondering with SEMrush KD. I think now I have to use ahrefs ;)
     
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    I have not made any big tests between the two. But from what I have, Ahrefs seems more accurate for me. Could be completely different for other niches. One that stuck out, and using my own knowledge to judge it as easy. A 27k keyword on Ahrefs is 0 and on Semrush is 67% or whatever they use. Needless to say it ranked fair easy within a month or so, this was using an emd
     
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    I shared article discussing that may read it Keyword Research Tools Comparison , however for me nothing accurate always , i use for my service 4 tools : Ahrefs , Keyword Revealer , KWFinder , and SECockpit , if each one shows low comp level i go and check manually to confirm .

    Semrush definitely not accurate .
     
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    I used to like Moz too Example Moz.JPG






    That keyword on Keysearch is;
    Competition is easy-moderate 32 score

    Ahrefs is score 2, but click rate is only 57%
     
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    Is Ahrefs really so accurate? I like ahrefs backlink database much better then majestic but for KD they only rely on referring domains!
    I think there are many more factors to calculate the difficulty
     
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    I'm not sure mate. I use my own basic knowledge too. Like search Google, page 1 has sites that don't have keyword in meta title, probably easy to rank.

    I certainly have not done enough research to vouch for Ahrefs, but from what I have done, it has been fair accurate and successful.
     
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    I had never used Ahrefs before for keyword competition although this thread piqued my interest. Generally I normally use KWFinder. Anyway, I made a search for a 3 word keyword on Ahrefs and the KW difficulty was 8. Copy and pasting the exact same keyword into KWFinder gave a difficulty of 43. Whilst I can appreciate they won't have similar metrics, for one to report a keyword as extremely easy to rank and the other to mark it as moderate to rank is a bit strange.
     
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