Best method to hide/cloaking your PayPal transaction?

PinguSpy · Jan 28, 2019

Any idea?

Got few methods.

1. Make feature for the user to issue invoice. Then we can just remark the payment as any "legitimate" goods/services. The problem with this technique, PayPal still can detect the source of the payment coming from. I mean witch website the user use to press the "buy button".

2. So that we got technique number (2.). Ive seen few website that's using cloaking for every payment button that they create. They create 1 website called "shorter url". When the user press the buy button, it will redirect to that url > PayPal. So PayPal wouldn't know where the source of money coming from.

Im still figure this thing out. Feel free to share you idea.

HoNeYBiRD · Jan 28, 2019

The issue is that if you go behind Paypal's back, you won't be protected against buyer scams. Even if you manage to hide the nature of your business, it will turn out with the first dispute.

PinguSpy · Jan 28, 2019

HoNeYBiRD said:
The issue is that if you go behind Paypal's back, you won't be protected against buyer scams. Even if you manage to hide the nature of your business, it will turn out with the first dispute.

Services type of business, will never get protection from PayPal.

HoNeYBiRD · Jan 28, 2019

PinguSpy said:
Services type of business, will never get protection from PayPal.

This is not entirely true and you're still fucked when the first dispute happens, which will happen sooner than later, if you are a higher volume seller. It's not just that you'll lose the case, the real issue is that the type of your business gets outed. No matter how good your cloaking is, when your own buyers can tell on you (unintentionally).

Also, if PayPal can't see the source of the payments, it doesn't sound too safe either. It's more like hiding vs. faking the referer in CPA marketing. Faking is better, hiding is always suspicious.

If you want to set up something semi-safe, you need to disguise whatever you're doing as a legit business. That's your best bet. Disputes still can fuck you, competitors too.

If PayPal decides to go against a type of business, there is no safe way to continue doing it.

umerjutt00 · Jan 28, 2019

HoNeYBiRD said:
This is not entirely true and you're still fucked when the first dispute happens, which will happen sooner than later, if you are a higher volume seller. It's not just that you'll lose the case, the real issue is that the type of your business gets outed. No matter how good your cloaking is, when your own buyers can tell on you (unintentionally).

Also, if PayPal can't see the source of the payments, it doesn't sound too safe either. It's more like hiding vs. faking the referer in CPA marketing. Faking is better, hiding is always suspicious.

If you want to set up something semi-safe, you need to disguise whatever you're doing as a legit business. That's your best bet. Disputes still can fuck you, competitors too.

If PayPal decides to go against a type of business, there is no safe way to continue doing it.

That's a valid point. If you have written "web hosting" on invoice and someone files a dispute saying they didn't got their Youtube views. That can be a problem.

PinguSpy · Jan 28, 2019

HoNeYBiRD said:
This is not entirely true and you're still fucked when the first dispute happens, which will happen sooner than later, if you are a higher volume seller. It's not just that you'll lose the case, the real issue is that the type of your business gets outed. No matter how good your cloaking is, when your own buyers can tell on you (unintentionally).

Also, if PayPal can't see the source of the payments, it doesn't sound too safe either. It's more like hiding vs. faking the referer in CPA marketing. Faking is better, hiding is always suspicious.

If you want to set up something semi-safe, you need to disguise whatever you're doing as a legit business. That's your best bet. Disputes still can fuck you, competitors too.

If PayPal decides to go against a type of business, there is no safe way to continue doing it.

The problem is, PayPal wont accept SMM business.
So I need to find a way for them not to detect that money is coming from SMM services.

Scorpion Ghost · Mar 7, 2019

HoNeYBiRD said:
This is not entirely true and you're still fucked when the first dispute happens, which will happen sooner than later, if you are a higher volume seller. It's not just that you'll lose the case, the real issue is that the type of your business gets outed. No matter how good your cloaking is, when your own buyers can tell on you (unintentionally).

Also, if PayPal can't see the source of the payments, it doesn't sound too safe either. It's more like hiding vs. faking the referer in CPA marketing. Faking is better, hiding is always suspicious.

If you want to set up something semi-safe, you need to disguise whatever you're doing as a legit business. That's your best bet. Disputes still can fuck you, competitors too.

If PayPal decides to go against a type of business, there is no safe way to continue doing it.

What if youre accepting payments manually?

Theres no website involved, and no note on the payslip. Its just one person sending money to another.

Of course, then you have to wonder if Paypal will ever wonder what are those payments for and where they are coming from.

But in the case of SMM, how about a website selling social media management? Not likes/followers, but managing peoples social media pages. I think thats legit. And then you take payments for your smm through it.

Now if you have a dispute and the client talks likes/views, you have a leg to stand on. Youre not selling likes, but it is an integral part of managing someone's social media page.

takers · Mar 7, 2019

PinguSpy said:
The problem is, PayPal wont accept SMM business.
So I need to find a way for them not to detect that money is coming from SMM services.

I've been getting paid for smm services through PayPal for years. I just got a payment 3 days ago. When did they stop accepting those services?

Scorpion Ghost · Mar 7, 2019

takers said:
I've been getting paid for smm services through PayPal for years. I just got a payment 3 days ago. When did they stop accepting those services?

They accept them but consider them high risk.

Any day you may wake up to a life changing permanent limitation.

TerryPrince · Mar 7, 2019

Why don't you just host a website or use other payment processor such as 2Checkout - Avangate - Woocomerrece*?

That should resolve the issue the payments will directly be made to that precise company and you'll get your payments all at once?

Shabzy · Nov 4, 2019

Im interested if you managed to find a way to do this? Im in the same situation. Would this work for stripe, square etc? Could you use a third party plugin to process payments which would prevent any description of items going to paypal, stripe?

richardofredricks · Oct 19, 2021

I am also facing this issue with my site, PayPal didn't support my website so I want to use get cloaking plugin for my wocomerce store, if anyone have can share with me I am ready to pay for that plugin, I have site A (which services not accepted by PayPal) and I will add Paypal at site B which services are legitimate for PayPal) my clients will pay on site A and PayPal get funds on site B. Anyone can help me in this cloaking.
Thanks.

alex270 · Nov 11, 2022

richardofredricks said:
I am also facing this issue with my site, PayPal didn't support my website so I want to use get cloaking plugin for my wocomerce store, if anyone have can share with me I am ready to pay for that plugin, I have site A (which services not accepted by PayPal) and I will add Paypal at site B which services are legitimate for PayPal) my clients will pay on site A and PayPal get funds on site B. Anyone can help me in this cloaking.
Thanks.

Same expecting for opencart.Anyone?

darkblackdark · Feb 28, 2025

richardofredricks said:
I am also facing this issue with my site, PayPal didn't support my website so I want to use get cloaking plugin for my wocomerce store, if anyone have can share with me I am ready to pay for that plugin, I have site A (which services not accepted by PayPal) and I will add Paypal at site B which services are legitimate for PayPal) my clients will pay on site A and PayPal get funds on site B. Anyone can help me in this cloaking.
Thanks.

Hey, did you solve this? I am on the same boat now

YellowBush · Mar 2, 2025

I think anyone that haves this knowledge is not going to share it with you, you either need to figure it out yourself or use a product that has been thoroughly tested - there's a lot to this, it's not as simple as most of you think it is.

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