Best automation tool for forums?

[ardvark]

Hi.

Im looking to spam some adult forums with an adult dating site.

Whats the best automated tool that can post to hundreds of forums?


Cheers

 

[bigkapp]

I'm pretty sure Xrumer is the best out there but if you look around the forum you should be able to find some thing to help you out.

 

[Ambassy]

Definitely go with xrumer. Although other tools such as ultimate demon and forum bot can work as well.

 

[kalnev]

Go for Xrumer. Ambassy - I tried UD in forums but got low success rate.

 

[hardcorebiker]

Everyone will say Xrumer but its so costly. You can go for magic submitter, ultimate demon, GSA or just outsource to some guy on Fiverr who does xrumer stuff

 

[akacash]

As said above xrummer is probably superior in this dept. however very costly if you're just trying something new or starting out. It might also depend on your knowledge of using tools in general. You should definitely see if you can get a trial period before purchasing anything. Last thing you want is to buy something and then open it and end up staring at the i-face trying to figure out how to get it to work let alone do what you want it to. Best bet is probably the most obvious as well which is to just try out a few different ones and find the one that you're most comfortable with.

 

[lokiys]

Forum spam is job for Xrumer for sure...

 

[oskedi01]

Yeah Xrumer as many above said. Will do the job!

 

[bigeazy]

If its for massive lists then yes Xrumer for sure.

If its highly targeted you use ubot/zennoposter/macros script, this can make you do stuff like and I'm using bhw as a forum example here... give ppl rep, add friends, rate threads, etc etc.

 

[Scritty]

If its for massive lists then yes Xrumer for sure.

If its highly targeted you use ubot/zennoposter/macros script, this can make you do stuff like and I'm using bhw as a forum example here... give ppl rep, add friends, rate threads, etc etc.

+7 (or 8 or however)

Xrumer is light years ahead of every other forum poster.

I will add the biggest failure cause in forums at the moment is captcha. Many (nearly al the good ones) do not have normal captcha any more, they have questions and sums that most paid captcha solving services either do not do as standard OR require you to pay a special tarrif to solve. A normal decaptcha or DBC sub does not solve them, likewise Xrumer's own captcha solving ap is not that good at them either.

Had one the question "Which was the third battleship of the Helgoland class to be launched (the second to be commissioned)"

The chances of anyone in a captcha solving service office having a bloody clue that the answer is "SMS Thuringen" is somewhere between "fecking remote" and "none existant"

Another stunner is "What is the name of this site?" - and while it's obvious if you are there, the URL of the site is not transmitted to the captcha solving service, so they won't have a clue what the answer is - and for the fraction of a cent they pay to solve a captcha - don't expect them to bother trying to find out what the actual answer is. It's a guess or a straight fail.

Forums have a lot of these now, and image recognition isn't the problem, OCR isn't the problem. General knowledge or in some cases pretty specific knowledge of the niche the website is in is the problem, and expecting some wage slave in Indonesia solving 15 captchas a minute to have a clue - or the time to sort out some obscure question?

It's not going to happen is it.

Scritty

 

[madoctopus]

I have all the respect for Botmaster for building Xrumer. Not just for what Xrumer is today but for creating it at that level, at that time, long ago. Even by today's standards it is an amazing tool but by the standards at the time of Xrumer5 or even earlier it was like The Pyramids in the stone age. I know what it means to build automation software and I know the skill and dedication it took to build Xrumer. Even if you think about how they managed to make it uncrackable and you can figure out those folks are fking programming gods/hackers. I've actually read a post about how Xrumer anti-cracking protection works and I was left speechless. I can only wonder what their private tools can do.

About forum automation, many people (99.99%) do it all wrong. Usual story as everywhere in IM. Instead of staying focused and targeted most people try to get very high number of links. Instead of focusing on posts/threads, they focus on profiles. Instead of doing the stubborn but authority forums by hand, they skip them completely. I once did 3 posts on the biggest forum in one of my niches. It is a forum that gets millions of views/month. For the next 3 days I had several hundreds visits from that forum, with an average of 12 pages/visit and 30 minutes time on site vs. the usual 2.5 pages/visit and 12min time on site that I got from google traffic. From just the traffic from that forum I have made 3 sales, totaling $400 in affiliate revenue ($10000 in sales) - one of them bought a super super expensive product. This was on a product review site monetizing with Amazon. I think that is a pretty good achievement for writing 3 posts on a forum.

Most people get caught up in numbers. I've always had awesome rankings in Google focusing on quality (even when I do 100% blackhat). This strategy never fails me. I'd rather have 100 forum links that are properly done than 10000 crappy links that jeopardize my site. People have the wrong impression that blackhat means blasting shit on the wall and hoping it sticks and won't stink so the people in the room notice it. Blackhat means being smarter/more skilled that everybody else and by that being able to do "impossible" things. It comes from blackhat in the computer security area which implies significantly superior knowledge than the people you're attacking. Most people who think are blackhats in SEO are in fact SEO script kiddies, maybe not even that. Just to keep this parallel with IT security, imagine that hacking a site is very easy - all you have to do is look for an exploit for a software ti runs there. That's it. If you find one, you're in. That means you're a script kiddie. Now imagine that there are people who actually broke GSM encryption and hacked into actual satellites. Yes, fucking satellites. And not by hacking a computer network that has access to the satellite but by analyzing the radio traffic coming from the satellite. That's a hacker. You want to do awesome things in SEO, you have to be a SEO hacker not a SEO script kiddie. That means you have to learn 10-100 times more stuff than the rest of the pack, you have to learn it better, in a more accurate manner, remember details that do not matter at all when you read them but will matter in the future and always ask yourself "how can I 'break' that to work to my advantage". Problem is, most people simply do not have the will or stamina to develop themselves. They want to "get rich fast" and find "easy ways to make money" while remaining as they are now (unskilled). In other words they want to dig a hole to the middle of the Earth using a teaspoon.

 

[Enchanter]

Another hand for Xrumer

 

[moonlighsunligh]

Had one the question "Which was the third battleship of the Helgoland class to be launched (the second to be commissioned)"

The chances of anyone in a captcha solving service office having a bloody clue that the answer is "SMS Thuringen" is somewhere between "fecking remote" and "none existant"

I think if you install the forum software you would be able to extract the question. This will solve 90% of such problems. Still some people are actually put their question, and forums they own aren't solvable, but also it is almost impossible to spam such forums. Also spamming such forums may be dangerous.

Blackhat means being smarter/more skilled that everybody else and by that being able to do "impossible" things. It comes from blackhat in the computer security area which implies significantly superior knowledge than the people you're attacking. Most people who think are blackhats in SEO are in fact SEO script kiddies, maybe not even that. Just to keep this parallel with IT security, imagine that hacking a site is very easy - all you have to do is look for an exploit for a software ti runs there. That's it. If you find one, you're in. That means you're a script kiddie. Now imagine that there are people who actually broke GSM encryption and hacked into actual satellites. Yes, fucking satellites. And not by hacking a computer network that has access to the satellite but by analyzing the radio traffic coming from the satellite. That's a hacker. You want to do awesome things in SEO, you have to be a SEO hacker not a SEO script kiddie. That means you have to learn 10-100 times more stuff than the rest of the pack, you have to learn it better, in a more accurate manner, remember details that do not matter at all when you read them but will matter in the future and always ask yourself "how can I 'break' that to work to my advantage". Problem is, most people simply do not have the will or stamina to develop themselves. They want to "get rich fast" and find "easy ways to make money" while remaining as they are now (unskilled). In other words they want to dig a hole to the middle of the Earth using a teaspoon.

Agreed. Do you believe that most people in IM think it is contraproductive to be a programmer? I had been outsourcing programming, now I do almost all stuff myself and it works way better.

 

[madoctopus]

I think if you install the forum software you would be able to extract the question. This will solve 90% of such problems. Still some people are actually put their question, and forums they own aren't solvable, but also it is almost impossible to spam such forums. Also spamming such forums may be dangerous.




Agreed. Do you believe that most people in IM think it is counterproductive to be a programmer? I had been outsourcing programming, now I do almost all stuff myself and it works way better.

I think they simply run away from hard things. Most of them at least. Also do not confuse "hack-coding" with regular coding. There's one thing to code a software or a site to perform normally - where you find tons of examples and tutorials on how to achieve what you want and there's another thing to code tools that aim to exploit a system so you obtain gains from it - in this case the examples and resources are slim if any. Then there's the cutting edge stuff where it is not coding skills you need but a certain way of thinking, spotting patterns and opportunities, solving problems, thinking out of the box, etc.

 

[moonlighsunligh]

Sure, being smart is always required, I just needed some "custom" coding to put my ideas to use. Without that, these ideas would be completely useless.