Beginner questions about Mother/slave method

batmax said:

but bro u just have to use the search button on this forum and type "mobile proxy" ^^

Lot of people dont like "lazy guys" who doesnt want to search by their own before ask for help.

I'm not judging, but an other advice, before create a thread look into the forum.

After your search if u have questions, create a thread with what u found and ask for advice :d

Hope u'll find what you need and succeed :d

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First thanks anyways.

Second I have been reading a lot, for more than 2 months, even before subscribing to the forum, I'm in my forties now so I'm not into forums anymore; usually is just mean teenagers with anger issues.

Third, I tried but I didn't find any real beginner material, step-by-step.
Before posting I researched on Google, and searched on youtube for just generic material, full of jargon, DYOR left and right, but absolutely nothing I could really do step-by-step.
In a time when OBS had problems with Google ads and many security bridges, I don't trust all I see and fake reviews, that's why I'm asking

Forth, I even tried to have someone do it for me, but after more than 10 people, no one doing an education niche.
I wish I could have someone to do for me; I'm rushing between schools, and now trying to make my way out of online business for so devalued work as a school teacher.
Rarely do I bother anyone with my question, but as you see I couldn't find anything other than OF.

So as a senior teacher as am I, my only hope was maybe someone has the same patience and time I offer daily to my students.

Maybe I'm wrong, and no one has more time for another human being, and wrongfully believe all the answers are just a Google away/ chatgpt.

Anyways, thank you again.

we are a few trying to help you on that thread so we spent time for another human being
Im just telling you that because a little search on a search bar will lead u to the proxy provider I jus sent u

More than your students u need to practice and test a lot to achieve what u need.

Lets try some 4g proxies they offer 3 days trial. so prepare u differents test scenarios before for no "waste"

obabo said:

Hey ll

I'm pretty new on this, so please be patient.

I read the other fantastic thread about mother/slave method but I don't have money now to spend to buy a new phone just to dedicate for it.
Also I tried bluestack but my laptop became absolutely slow with it, and buy private proxies I really don't think is worth it right now.

I also tried to find someone to do it for me, but the majority don't work with my niche (education) or are very expensive.
So Im kind of worried because my main account is on my phone and computer and Im afraid to block my main account.

So can I use the multi-space apps or may I have the risk to be blocked too? or do I need inevitably buy a new phone to do that?
Can I go once a day to the public internet and add followers ( cuz the limit is 180 pp) and this will avoid problems with my main account and the slaves for having the same IP instead to buy a sim card (here in Japan is hard to get)?

What are your suggestions? Im really beginner and any help will be welcome.
Thanks!

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im doin this rn with 50 accounts, and i created a tool with my programmer soon ill sell it but its not ready yet, but you have to buy phones, i already have 10 looking to expand

batmax said:

we are a few trying to help you on that thread so we spent time for another human being
Im just telling you that because a little search on a search bar will lead u to the proxy provider I jus sent u

More than your students u need to practice and test a lot to achieve what u need.

Lets try some 4g proxies they offer 3 days trial. so prepare u differents test scenarios before for no "waste"

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I want you understand I just have one phone, one computer in a country i don't have opportunity to have another 4g physically.
So "testing" could lead me just to lose what I have.

And as a teacher I never said my students are lazy just because they don't know. Understand people has limitations is part of maturity.

I searched on Google 4G proxies but until to my 3 page didn't have a free trial... Causation is not correlation

Here anyone can make a account and endorse something, after all this is a forum to learn how to fake reviews, profiles and endorsement

So waiting some to explain is a psychology strategy to avoid false positive.

And probably you didn't understand my references to OBS, DYOR

You sounds young so I pass

Anyways thank you

mshelby said:

im doin this rn with 50 accounts, and i created a tool with my programmer soon ill sell it but its not ready yet, but you have to buy phones, i already have 10 looking to expand

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50 accounts? Wow

Is it with the same phone/computer? Or do you have multiple devices?

Just want to say, it's good that you know your stuff. That's a solid drive and mindset that would work to your advantage anywhere you go.

obabo said:

I did my research on my audience and I already have it all done, but something very complicated in Japanese society is they only believe in you if another Japanese believes in you. Doesn't matters how much money you spend on marketing, the key here is to have a Japanese lookalike talking about you. Chicken-egg problem.

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I can see how this might be a bit of a hurdle. The only thing I can think about on this is hiring Japanese accounts to endorse you to some capacity. Easier said than done I think. On a different spectrum, I used to be on an agency that rents out foreigners for Chinese and Japanese business meetings, activities, and the like. If that sort of service exist, surely Japanese accounts that do paid endorsements also should.

obabo said:

But I believe my main goal now is to have more accounts without needing the 4g use because is very complicated here in Japan to get my hands on. Of course, I can go to the internet-cafe or public wifi, but I believe will flag it also.

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I have no faith in public wifi for anything so I have no doubts that accounts would get flagged on it. Internet cafes might serve you better, depending on how their connection is set up so there's that to consider.

imccafey said:

Just want to say, it's good that you know your stuff. That's a solid drive and mindset that would work to your advantage anywhere you go.

I can see how this might be a bit of a hurdle. The only thing I can think about on this is hiring Japanese accounts to endorse you to some capacity. Easier said than done I think. On a different spectrum, I used to be on an agency that rents out foreigners for Chinese and Japanese business meetings, activities, and the like. If that sort of service exist, surely Japanese accounts that do paid endorsements also should.

I have no faith in public wifi for anything so I have no doubts that accounts would get flagged on it. Internet cafes might serve you better, depending on how their connection is set up so there's that to consider.

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Thank you.

Yes, is true, will be better to hire a Japanese company to do that.
However, if you have been to the Japanese side of the internet you will know how complicated it is; most websites here is just old blog from the '80s, just look at some Japanese copycat of FB like Ameba or Mixi (both very popular here), or even the most popular search engine yahoo.jp.
Its absolutely terrifying, and I felt back on the days of Altavista

Even Japanese backlinks I did for my websites, I know way more than the majority of people in this field, believe it or not,

Internet-cafe is maybe my next try: I asked chatgpt how Instagram can flag you and one of the answers is the fonts in your PC, after the browser and IP address. IDK if this is true but an internet cafe is a different computer and cheaper than buying another phone, but I still believe will be flagged as you said.

Also, I tried to use bluestack and other emulators but my laptop almost dies just to install, so my idea is maybe to have an Android emulator for Android I searched and was oddly surprised I can't find anything further than a game emulator.

So that's why I'm stuck now: I don't know why Instagram is flagged every time I try to do a new account at home:

Is it because of my laptop?
Is it because of the browser (I use Brave and Chrome)?
is it because IP address (I tried VPN, but the same problem)?
is it because of the fonts on my computer ( I already installed others)?
Is it because the proxies I tried are not good quality ( how to know what is good quality when most of the reviews could be fake)?

obabo said:

50 accounts? Wow

Is it with the same phone/computer? Or do you have multiple devices?

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Im 35 years old and for 2 monthes a father

NO one will give u a 100% sucess method for what u need, this is what I/You/Every body have to test and of course there is a cost.

For the *** time they are seller on the market place who provide free trial, Ive post one thread about it that I va test their service.

Have u tried ?

I understood u only have one phone and one computer and no way to scale it up.

Lets try to code a little bot using one different chrome profile per account (Im personnaly using playwright)

Dont even need to code the automation just start different browser with playwright (using 4G proxy) try to navigate to IG and create an account.

I was able to create an IG account that way and can access it the same way with an static private proxy (after the account creation, I veonly used the same ip for this account)
I did not do used that account for mass actions, it was just for testing purpose and the account is not banned.


U can also try antidetect browser like incognition (its on the marketplace u have free plan with 10 differents profiles)
but still need proxies

if there is no trial try to by the smallest package

I just prompted : japanese 4G proxies on google
found many links including a provider I'm using (residential IP so not only 4G)
and a BHW thread from InstaSwift looking to build a japanese 4G service (august 2022)
https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/would-you-be-buying-4g-proxies-from-tokyo-japan.1432279/
and an other google search :
https://tokyocheapo.com/business/internet/prepaid-cheap-japan-sim-card-options/
I dont knnow if its a relevant or usefull but maybe give u some new ideas

batmax said:

if there is no trial try to by the smallest package

I just prompted : japanese 4G proxies on google
found many links including a provider I'm using (residential IP so not only 4G)
and a BHW thread from InstaSwift looking to build a japanese 4G service (august 2022)
https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/would-you-be-buying-4g-proxies-from-tokyo-japan.1432279/
and an other google search :
https://tokyocheapo.com/business/internet/prepaid-cheap-japan-sim-card-options/
I dont knnow if its a relevant or usefull but maybe give u some new ideas

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Thanks a lot, I will take a look in the Mobal, I never heard before honestly.

I used Sakura and IIJMIO but became brutally expensive very quickly.

Let me explain the Japanese simcard problem

Most of these sim cards are from tourists, and most are only data, very low, and only for one month. and pretty expensive for us ( remember our minimum wage is 1000 yen or 7 USD)
Even Skype here doesn't receive SMS.
And many of these cards request you show your temporary visa.

However, if you are a resident and want a sim card here, from Rakuten, au, or Docomo, you need a Japanese credit card.
To have a Japanese credit card you need a Japanese phone number ( non-skype) and pray for one of the banks to accept you.

Many banks don't accept you if you are not under a spouse visa; For a working visa like mine it is a pain in the ass.... takes months, send the form by fax, Ask permission from your company to they being your guarantor, Hanko, pay slips, and the list goes on...

I only get the sim card last year because a friend of mine bought it for me in his name, so I don't want to mess it up.
In this way I just pay 1000 yen a month... not 7000 yen.

But anyways, great idea, I will look Mobal, looks very promising

Thanks again!

if you need to have a properly working setup you need:
-HQ 4G Proxy with frequent rotation
-Either use phones to automate or a bot ( there is plenty on the marketplace, i suggest susocial which is jarvee )
-Aged accounts for better results

Those are only the things you need to start but everything still depends on how you'll setup things
I don't advise using bluestack in longterm, too much fingerprint on that software or free proxies, you will just get banned quickly & lose hope fast

batmax said:

Im 35 years old and for 2 monthes a father

NO one will give u a 100% sucess method for what u need, this is what I/You/Every body have to test and of course there is a cost.

For the *** time they are seller on the market place who provide free trial, Ive post one thread about it that I va test their service.

Have u tried ?

I understood u only have one phone and one computer and no way to scale it up.

Lets try to code a little bot using one different chrome profile per account (Im personnaly using playwright)

Dont even need to code the automation just start different browser with playwright (using 4G proxy) try to navigate to IG and create an account.

I was able to create an IG account that way and can access it the same way with an static private proxy (after the account creation, I veonly used the same ip for this account)
I did not do used that account for mass actions, it was just for testing purpose and the account is not banned.


U can also try antidetect browser like incognition (its on the marketplace u have free plan with 10 differents profiles)
but still need proxies

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About non detect browser, I tried dolphin anty, and for some reason said is incompatible with my computer, so I need to look into other options or try to install again.

About proxies I tested free trial webshare,crawl base,Infatica, Iproyal. No sucess.

As you can see, I tried but I still can't identify if the proxies is the problem or the computer, or the browser.
And work every day just to pay to survive is hard.

35? Still young .....

Thanks again

godfathercapitano said:

if you need to have a properly working setup you need:
-HQ 4G Proxy with frequent rotation
-Either use phones to automate or a bot ( there is plenty on the marketplace, i suggest susocial which is jarvee )
-Aged accounts for better results

Those are only the things you need to start but everything still depends on how you'll setup things
I don't advise using bluestack in longterm, too much fingerprint on that software or free proxies, you will just get banned quickly & lose hope fast

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Thanks so much for your advices

I read so much about jarvee but looks impossible for new people. Am I wrong? Has anyways to make a jarvee account?

obabo said:

Thanks so much for your advices

I read so much about jarvee but looks impossible for new people. Am I wrong? Has anyways to make a jarvee account?

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SuSocial is a replica of Jarvee. or maybe they are jarvee team, just new label to go public again to avoid lawsuits

godfathercapitano said:

SuSocial is a replica of Jarvee. or maybe they are jarvee team, just new label to go public again to avoid lawsuits

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Amazing, thank you for the tip, as soon I arrive at home I will try

obabo said:

Thanks a lot, I will take a look in the Mobal, I never heard before honestly.

I used Sakura and IIJMIO but became brutally expensive very quickly.

Let me explain the Japanese simcard problem

Most of these sim cards are from tourists, and most are only data, very low, and only for one month. and pretty expensive for us ( remember our minimum wage is 1000 yen or 7 USD)
Even Skype here doesn't receive SMS.
And many of these cards request you show your temporary visa.

However, if you are a resident and want a sim card here, from Rakuten, au, or Docomo, you need a Japanese credit card.
To have a Japanese credit card you need a Japanese phone number ( non-skype) and pray for one of the banks to accept you.

Many banks don't accept you if you are not under a spouse visa; For a working visa like mine it is a pain in the ass.... takes months, send the form by fax, Ask permission from your company to they being your guarantor, Hanko, pay slips, and the list goes on...

I only get the sim card last year because a friend of mine bought it for me in his name, so I don't want to mess it up.
In this way I just pay 1000 yen a month... not 7000 yen.

But anyways, great idea, I will look Mobal, looks very promising

Thanks again!

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You are not japanese?
Cant u buy a sim card from your own country and use the roaming?

batmax said:

You are not japanese?
Cant u buy a sim card from your own country and use the roaming?

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hahaha.... far from being Japanese.
As a foreigner, I have wayyyyyyy less rights here..... I can talk for hours about that.

That's a good question!
I had my Canadian sim card, but guess what happened?
For just 2 months outside of Canada, Telus charged me 700$...and I still fighting after 6 years

Furthermore, I finally installed the dolphin anty after arriving from work (+10hp lol) but unfortunately, when I tried some proxies, I stuck on the infinity loop of Google Recaptcha. Maybe the proxies are flagged?...idk honestly

The link you provide me for a free trial I didn't have the answer me yet. So maybe have some hope overall

Thanks anyways

for the proxy from marketplayce I reached theim via telegram.

Cant u "fake" a new tourist visa ?

batmax said:

for the proxy from marketplayce I reached theim via telegram.

Cant u "fake" a new tourist visa ?

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Nah... the Japanese tourist visa is now a QR code stick in your passport, and my working visa is 2 full entire pages.

I checked the mobal, will be almost 5000 yen just for 1 GB, almost one entire day of work lol.
And to pick it up you need to show the passport...Japan and the eternal bureaucrat rollercoaster.

Well, in my last school, they still used a floppy disk and my bank still has a bankbook for statements, so I'm not surprised.

I will try to send a message to telegram too... lets see

obabo said:

50 accounts? Wow

Is it with the same phone/computer? Or do you have multiple devices?

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one phone 5 to 10 accs