Becoming a Web Developer

Hello,

I recently made a decision to become programmer (web developer) because I consider you can have a bright future if you know programming. I'm young (19 years old) so I think I have time to learn. This year I'm willing to start a school in this field.

That being said, what do you recommend me to start with? (programming languages, sources, ways of learning).

Thanks!

Have you had a look https://www.blackhatworld.com/forums/#programming-web-design.40 ?

CodeAcademy is nice place to start to see if you actually like coding. They have a bunch of tutorials on a variety of lanuguages etc, a lot of it is free too so that is mint.

Do not try something because it has a bright future only. It should be something you love and you can work on continuously.

Web development is constantly changing. If you can't pick up a new technology in a matter of weeks then you're gone. It's a vicious market, learning just HTML/CSS/JS won't get you anywhere anymore.
Like someone above said, see if you actually enjoy doing it. Otherwise, you're basically fucked. Programming seriously isn't for everyone, I think around 90% of the compsci students at my university drop out in first year.

lain_iwakura said:

Web development is constantly changing. If you can't pick up a new technology in a matter of weeks then you're gone. It's a vicious market, learning just HTML/CSS/JS won't get you anywhere anymore.
Like someone above said, see if you actually enjoy doing it. Otherwise, you're basically fucked. Programming seriously isn't for everyone, I think around 90% of the compsci students at my university drop out in first year.

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90% dropout rate?? That's wild hahaha

BlackGrumps said:

90% dropout rate?? That's wild hahaha

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It's ridiculous. People go into the degree thinking that it's easy and they can make money off it, then drop all the compsci courses first semester because they can't think logically enough. Mind you, the first semester courses look something like Python/Java, and some math like calculus and linear algebra. Oh, and digital systems/logic and circuits. Pretty simple stuff, honestly not difficult to pick up.
Only like 10 people get their undergrad haha. It's pretty fucking sad.

lain_iwakura said:

It's ridiculous. People go into the degree thinking that it's easy and they can make money off it, then drop all the compsci courses first semester because they can't think logically enough. Mind you, the first semester courses look something like Python/Java, and some math like calculus and linear algebra. Oh, and digital systems/logic and circuits. Pretty simple stuff, honestly not difficult to pick up.
Only like 10 people get their undergrad haha. It's pretty fucking sad.

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Sheesh, seems like a big curriculum problem, like I get people can be lazy but 90%?!....how can a university even endorse a program like that.

"Join our school and have a 10% chance of graduating!" Haha can't imagine

BlackGrumps said:

Sheesh, seems like a big curriculum problem, like I get people can be lazy but 90%?!....how can a university even endorse a program like that.

"Join our school and have a 10% chance of graduating!" Haha can't imagine

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I mean, my uni isn't exactly known for the compsci program, but it's not like a bad program by any means. My GF is in it and she's doing fine because she likes doing that kind of stuff already. I sometimes pull a project or assignment from her syllabus and try solving it myself. Most of the time, I can. Then again, I've been doing programming as a hobby for a number of years now, so at least I have the problem solving skills I need.

I think that's what's missing. The education system here doesn't actually teach kids how to solve problems on their own. It doesn't lead them to an answer, it tells them the answer. I'm better than a lot of them because I know how to troubleshoot shit, how to debug, how to optimize. Back in highschool I took a metal working class where the teacher didn't care if we fucked up our project. He could give us a few pointers, and from there it was up to us to figure out how to fix it using the tools at hand. If we couldn't, 0%. If we could, then we'd get our mark for the project. Most students just don't have the ability to think for themselves, and that's where I think the problem lies.

The statistic around here doesn't stop there, though. 67% of Engineering students drop out after first year as well. Again, people just think they're gonna do find and make money once they're done. Doesn't always work like that, clearly. Engineering is way too problem solving intensive haha.

You can start learning HTML, CSS, javascript, jquery for the beggining. You need to practice daily and when you master this, go on and learn some frameworks (node,react etc) and then u’ll be a complete web developer! Mult succes!

What you would do after learning it?

LGNDFRVR23 said:

You can start learning HTML, CSS, javascript, jquery for the beggining. You need to practice daily and when you master this, go on and learn some frameworks (node,react etc) and then u’ll be a complete web developer! Mult succes!

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What programming language jQuery is?

Diplomat said:

What programming language jQuery is?

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None, it's a javascript framework for frontend development.

Diplomat said:

What programming language jQuery is?

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Oops thats java script library/ framework but u get the point

lain_iwakura said:

None, it's a javascript framework for frontend development.

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Damn you, you just messed up my good troll comment..

"bright future if you know programming" this is not not always true, like everything in this life it depends on your track. I know a lot of good programmers / IT Professionals that are jobless or that have mediocre success. There are also people that never went to school but are just incredible. Knowledge is out there, it depends on what you do with it and how you expand your horizon by overcoming limits.

MIT has all its courses online for FREE! I cannot post links: ocw.mit.edu

good programming get a lot of money if you really have high iq
if you do not get a lot of money until your age is 30 than just have to quit
that is what can i say

lain_iwakura said:

It's ridiculous. People go into the degree thinking that it's easy and they can make money off it, then drop all the compsci courses first semester because they can't think logically enough. Mind you, the first semester courses look something like Python/Java, and some math like calculus and linear algebra. Oh, and digital systems/logic and circuits. Pretty simple stuff, honestly not difficult to pick up.
Only like 10 people get their undergrad haha. It's pretty fucking sad.

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id love learning programming (only problem is its time consuming) but i hate math. they teach a lot of hilarious math based stuff that is nowhere needed to make useful application

aidenhera said:

id love learning programming (only problem is its time consuming) but i hate math. they teach a lot of hilarious math based stuff that is nowhere needed to make useful application

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Compsci isn't about making applications, that's Software Engineering. Compsci is about the application of algorithms or optimization and being able to control exactly what the computer does and how to program it to do that exact task using the least amount of instruction.
Again, depends on your definition of useful. If you've ever sorted your files by name, date modified or whatever, there's an application doing that. I'd imagine that's pretty useful. Dijkstra's algorithm enables transit travel planners to come up with the most optimized routes. Pretty useful, needs lots of math.

I learned everything regarding web development in the internet with free resource, but you have to learn how to market your skills to actually be able to get paid. No matter how good you get at web development, without a good marketing skill you can't get any clients. So learn marketing also.