Bad and Negative SEO to your main website

Nestory · Mar 7, 2017

Hello guys,

did you get a massive Negative to your websites ? if so what are your steps next ?

i've got thousand of backlinks with these anchors text "free p0rn, viagra, sex, p0rn, ..."

i am not talking about disavow link tool, because i tried it and no changes at all...

what do you think about redirect 301 to a new domain ? but i think that all these anchors text and links will pass to the new domain...

what do you think about this case ?

thanks

RayChand · Mar 7, 2017

Disavow will not work for these kind of shitty links. However, if you are sure that your site is not a brand and can be moved, then move it at the earliest to a new domain. Also, have you received any penalty/warnin in your Google search console, if not why bother ? Also, have you lost rankings (If any) ?

mbreezy · Mar 7, 2017

You should definitely use the disavow tool. Just because they don't disappear from your Search Console doesn't mean it isn't serving its purpose.

Other than that, Penguin 4.0 does a good job of ignoring/devaluing low quality links like that.

Yes the 301 will pass all the low quality links to the new domain. Just clean up your backlink profile and get some high quality links with more diverse anchors to even things out.

Aty · Mar 7, 2017

Wait and hope the dickhead will eventually give it up. If your rankings going downhill start disavowing links.

Nestory · Mar 7, 2017

i was #1 for the main keyword, now i am #80... #74
i tried to disavow these links but no success...

Nestory · Mar 7, 2017

Aty said:
Wait and hope the dickhead will eventually give it up. If your rankings going downhill start disavowing links.

i know who did it, i will repost ...

darulez · Mar 8, 2017

Nestory said:
Hello guys,

did you get a massive Negative to your websites ? if so what are your steps next ?

i've got thousand of backlinks with these anchors text "free p0rn, viagra, sex, p0rn, ..."

thanks

create some "free p0rn" page and put some amazon masturbators on it.

500views · Mar 8, 2017

I think Google will eventually fade these websites off. It's still amazing how Google's AI Rankbrain hasn't come up with any kind of detection system to disavow negative SEO by itself.

Nestory · Mar 8, 2017

vivalikes said:
I think Google will eventually fade these websites off. It's still amazing how Google's AI Rankbrain hasn't come up with any kind of detection system to disavow negative SEO by itself.

i don't think google do that, because i will not go from #1 to #80 just like that...

Unreliable Witness · Mar 8, 2017

Disavow does work. Do use it. However:

disavowed links will stay listed in Search Console / WMT - that report is pretty useless anyway
to get Google to recognise that you have disavowed a link, you need to get Google to recrawl it

I've forced Google to recrawl links on other sites by buying a throw-away-able domain name, and setting up 301 redirects from it to the other spam pages. So mydomain.com/page1 redirects to spamdomain.com/spampage. Then list all pages on your throw-away domain in a sitemap and get Google to crawl the sitemap through Search Console for that domain. You can't guarantee that it crawls everything, but submit the sitemap once a week for a month and you'll get it to recognise the majority.

Sristy · Mar 8, 2017

Nestory said:
Hello guys,

did you get a massive Negative to your websites ? if so what are your steps next ?

i've got thousand of backlinks with these anchors text "free p0rn, viagra, sex, p0rn, ..."

i am not talking about disavow link tool, because i tried it and no changes at all...

what do you think about redirect 301 to a new domain ? but i think that all these anchors text and links will pass to the new domain...

what do you think about this case ?

thanks

First off disavow the links if you have a list of it. Secondly start working on your second domain. If you know who is doing this then it is pretty much easier to decide on your next course of action

mbreezy said:
Other than that, Penguin 4.0 does a good job of ignoring/devaluing low quality links like that.

If Google was that smarter we wouldn't have been discussing negative SEO at all.

Nadiyakt said:
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WTF man, are you on weed or you a robot increasing post count.

aidenhera · Mar 8, 2017

this is funny stuff. the better Google do their anti-negative seo algorhitm, the worse their blackhat seo algorhitm will be. What i mean is that, the more they ignore these shitty links (link is a link btw), the equally more bad links a beginner can do without getting penalty.
it's a lose:lose for them.
However old domains seem to not give a f about negative seo. I didnt test that i just heard and it makes sense.

Nestory · Mar 8, 2017

Unreliable Witness said:
Disavow does work. Do use it. However:

disavowed links will stay listed in Search Console / WMT - that report is pretty useless anyway

to get Google to recognise that you have disavowed a link, you need to get Google to recrawl it

I've forced Google to recrawl links on other sites by buying a throw-away-able domain name, and setting up 301 redirects from it to the other spam pages. So mydomain.com/page1 redirects to spamdomain.com/spampage. Then list all pages on your throw-away domain in a sitemap and get Google to crawl the sitemap through Search Console for that domain. You can't guarantee that it crawls everything, but submit the sitemap once a week for a month and you'll get it to recognise the majority.

your strategy seems logic. i will give it a try. thanks

Nestory · Mar 8, 2017

Sristy said:
First off disavow the links if you have a list of it. Secondly start working on your second domain. If you know who is doing this then it is pretty much easier to decide on your next course of action .

don't worry man, it is been 3 hours now running GSA

to repost.

Nestory · Mar 8, 2017

Nadiyakt said:
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here is how:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+to+Check+TF+CF+bulk+URL

Vladamir · Mar 8, 2017

Negative seo works and is annoying as hell, with penguin 4.0 they said they removed any relevance of negative seo to the algorithym but thats bs still countless examples I think they removed the ability to be effected negatively overall in their mind but the ability of still having anchor text and switching your sites relevance to another topic i think still exists. Ex if someone shoots 50000 horse porn anchors at your site, you may drop from your rankings of Cat Mittens and start going up in rankings for horse porn

this article says much more in the amount of seos commenting bs with examples than the article itself
https://www.seroundtable.com/google-penguin-negative-seo-22784.html

ThopHayt · Mar 8, 2017

Assuming Google isn't flat out retarded, their AI should pick up on porn anchors and sudden mass spam blasts easily. Back BEFORE Penguin 4.0 I did a case study with NSEO on a site of mine with decent authority. Even then, assuming a site had good authority and had built some age/standing with Google it appeared that NSEO had little to zero effect. Things COULD have changed with Penguin 4.0... but one would assume that every iteration of Google's AI would get better, not worse at detecting negative spam blasts. My general understanding of the new system is that Google detects suspicious activity, learns its parameters (the types of links, and types of anchors) and then simply ignores them and others like them in the future.

OP: If it were MY site I'd disavow the links, and sit back and watch the SERPS. Assuming your link building wasn't nearly as spammy as the porn blast, Google should figure it out. The only problem would be if your site hadn't built up enough authority/age for Google to nail down its topic. In which case you could always simply flip the site into a porn site

But if I had to guess I'd guess you'll be just fine.

-ThopHayt

Unreliable Witness · Mar 8, 2017

In my experience, because NSEO attempts change anchor text profiles, you can still be "filtered" by the algorithm (i.e. placed lower in the SERPs without receiving a penalty notice in WMT) for over-optimisation of the keywords you are being spammed by. Less of a problem if you are selling kitten mittens and you are spammed by horse porn, but more of a problem if you are being spammed by keywords you actually want to rank for (i.e. that you have in your page title, on your page etc).

Unreliable Witness · Mar 8, 2017

ThopHayt said:
Assuming Google isn't flat out retarded

That is what I would like to think, but I'm not so sure sometimes.

ThopHayt · Mar 8, 2017

Unreliable Witness said:
That is what I would like to think, but I'm not so sure sometimes.

Their AI is a neural net and is supposed to "learn" but the problem with a neural net is that the conclusions it comes to are literally a Black Box... you can't tell how or why it came to any conclusion it comes to. All you can do is feed it info to learn from and make judgements from. It replicates the human brain, essentially. So technically speaking... I suppose it COULD be retarded, literally.

-ThopHayt

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