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Backlinks, what to do after 200?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by RalphyBoy, Jul 21, 2008.

  1. RalphyBoy

    RalphyBoy Regular Member

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    Hello Everyone,

    After getting about 200 backlinks via directories, social bookmarking, etc...

    How do you go above 200?

    As with most, I don't want to keep going 1 link at a time, but my competitors are at about 900 links most of them uisng the same keyword for the anchor text.

    What do you think is the next best step, keep in mind I need to keep the same anchor text on most of the links.

    BTW, I am currently #18 in Google, Yahoo doesn't know I exist, and my site is a few years old.

    Thanks!
     
  2. tukhat

    tukhat Registered Member

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    keep your track man. I didn't stop when I got 200 back links. I'm using yahoo answer and google to find easy back link with blog comment. Less than 30 days my new website already have more than 900 backlink. Yes, it seems so low, but doing manually is far time consuming. So have a software to do that. But I think manual back link is the best.
     
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  3. twinkletoes

    twinkletoes Junior Member

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    Articles, articles, articles.

    Try it with an article spinner submission service.

    Yahoo answers works great - I got back links in just a couple of days.

    Start a couple of blogs.

    There is a post here to show you a butt load of free blogging services, can't find the post but here is the site:hxxp://mash*able.c0m/2007/08/06/free-blog-hosts/

    (replace the x's, remove the star and swap the zero)

    And there is this post here:
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...5625-use-google-find-edu-blogs-backlinks.html
     
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  4. RalphyBoy

    RalphyBoy Regular Member

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    Thanks everyone, I appreciate your help....
     
  5. ellie

    ellie Regular Member

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    A question for the whiteys :)

    I've collected over a thousand decent links to a site of mine (from articles, directories and relevant sites) and I'm not noticing much movement on the google top 10. (Currently at #5 or #6 depending on day). The keyword i'm targetting is not that competitive and the top 1 and 2 sites have minimal backlinks (I know the owners personally).

    The highest PR link the top 2 sites have is a PR4 link whilst I have over 40 PR6 links (amongst others)... yet i'm stuck on #5.

    I've optimised for the keyword i'm targetting and still nothing..

    Any ideas? My site is going on 4 months old with a PR2. Do I need to just wait, or have I done something less than helpful by linking?

    Your advice will be much appreciated :)
     
  6. goawayplease

    goawayplease Regular Member

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    If you're ranking in the top ten, odds are you're not penalized; but some of your better links may have been sandboxed due to how fast you gathered them.

    Waiting is really your only option for now, in another two months or so you'll know whether or not you need to keep grabbing links, or if you were just sandboxed.

    It's important to keep in mind that relevance factors outside of PageRank factor into where a site ranks, especially since they've had to deal with Google Bombing. They may have fewer, but more relevant links than you, hence their stronger position.

    As noted though, you won't really know for a little while longer.
     
  7. RandomStuff

    RandomStuff Registered Member

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    How old are the sites of the top 1 and 2 results, the one that you know the owners personally? Granted, I don't have any experience with this, but I've *read* that site/domain age play a factor into it all?
     
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    topper99 Registered Member

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    Yep, Google likes old sites.
     
  9. goawayplease

    goawayplease Regular Member

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    Google likes relevant, trust worthy, authoritative content. Age is only one factor looked at when it comes to trust... I personally believe that sandboxing is a trust filter... a site trying to inflate it's relevance artificially through links is less trustworthy than a site that exhibits natural growth.
     
  10. eponus

    eponus Registered Member

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    Agreed; if the sites that are above you in ranking are older, there's not much you can do.

    However, I've also heard that Google checks the length of time that your domain is registered for; longer registrations (4+ years) get a little more PR boost than short registrations since it's supposed to mean that you're planning on sticking around for awhile. I think I read about this from SEOBook which contains excellent white hat SEO info, but my memory could serve me wrong.
     
  11. onslaught82

    onslaught82 Registered Member

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    I always hear about sandboxing and penalties, not saying they don't exist but I have used many "no-no" tools such as PRstorm and have not seen any deindexing or penalty...I guess I am lucky.
     
  12. ellie

    ellie Regular Member

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    Hi Guys,

    Yeah #1 and #2 are around the 3yo mark. I have another domain that is over 5yrs old and related, so would it be worth my while building that up alongside my main site?

    Also, I've heard participating in link networks (Telalinks for example) can hurt you greatly, anyone know if there's any truth to this?
     
  13. polymorphs

    polymorphs Newbie

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    I've heard that link networks can hurt you because they are treated like low value links - but when all is said and done a link is a link is a link and they all help a little
     
  14. Viltedali

    Viltedali Regular Member

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    As far as moving up from #5 or #6, what is your title tag?

    I mean, how many words or characters doesn't have?

    You may want to try using only the keyword you are targeting and that is it.

    Remove any longer tail keywords that you have in the title tag, the page - "home" or whatever, and the site name. Leaving only your main keyword.

    I imagine it is a bit risky messing with your title tag, and maybe you will disappear from the results altogether for a few days, but it could be worth it.

    From what I understand, any words other than your main keywords that are in the title tag just dilute the effectiveness.

    Try at your own risk however. I am no SEO guru who has hundreds of sites to test such things on.

    Actually, I think very few of the "gurus" do, instead just looking at what someone else has written and then claiming that as their own, or at least just repeating it, as I am doing here.

    Maybe the people who offer the Marketing Sherpa products go through thorough testing, probably not many more.
     
  15. Niche

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    Sounds like you need to work on your onpage optimization and get more backlinks

    Some of my sites have over a thousand backlinks and rank in number one but I am still building backlinks. It is something that you just have to keep doing