Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by dkextbmx, Dec 13, 2013.
Looks like Backlinks.com just got hit. Luckily I haven't used them in a while
It's crazy how he can get away with ruining businesses. It's not like spamming the internet's illegal and Google doesn't own the internet.
Nonetheless, it's a very debated topic that frankly is boring as hell so I won't continue.
Vendors rise and fall every other week because of the Google web spam team. I think Google has every right to target networks, but it's embarrassing for a multi-billion dollar company to target link building vendors from message boards that are 1-2 people teams - is that really the best use of time for people at Google who are making six-figure salaries (most likely a team of 20-100+)? Embarrassing if you ask me. :boink:
I wonder what would happen if the blackhat community started to target Google employee websites and started nuking them with spammy backlinks. That would end up being one hell of an ethical war front.
Oh so funny how Google needs to actively target networks and then post about it.
Fix your algorithms to detect paid links
Oh wait, you can't. GG google.
It is quite funny though how these link networks think all there little paid links are "undetectable". Now I know why Matt Cutts is laughing so hard.
We should all get together and spam the hell out of mrs cutts personal blog lol
Obviously he has something in place where neg SEO will never hurt his ranking because of that.
Usually official Google blogs/services bypass the harsh conditions of the algorithm. It only makes sense, why would a Google service be on the bottom of the first page?
They are just trying to create a fear in the minds of webmasters......
The guy cracks me up.
It's like a top cop reporting about petty theft. Just sad and disgraceful.
google doesnt target little networks. they target heavily advertised networks and networks that start gaining public exposure such as sape links.
the best use of these guys time is to sit around and target a few networks .. just doesn't make sense to me
they should just be trying to improve their technology full stop
btw I'm pretty much sure I know how they detect such networks.
For example, we have a small-to-mid-sized network. We buy a big package of links on this network. This package represents, say, 1% of sites in the network. Maybe even less.
So, we flag 1% of sites as link sellers.
Then we scrap all outbound links on these sites. And look for other sites with outbound links which somewhat intersect by domain with this 1% of links on already flagged sites. 100% intersection is not needed. I think intersection with just a few percent is enough. These other sites are link sellers too and they are added to the pool of flagged sites. Rinse, repeat, several iterations.
Now we got 90% of sites in the network. They are "bad". Let's select all the sites which have they PR mostly from the bad sites and apply a penalty on them. Negative-seoed authority sites will mostly be not affected as they have significant part of their PR flown from other, "good" sites.
This process is cheap and requires only a small deposit to flag the first 1%. Rest can be automated.
This is why the target small networks so successfully. This is why SAPE (huge pool of very differentdonor sites, hard to find intersection) is not affected as much as small networks yet. This is why SAPE sites which sell more than 1 link/page and/or have many pages on SAPE are affected the most and the most dangerous.
Its nothing more than a scare tactic otherwise there was no need for him to tweet such insignificant stuff.
i dont understand why he tweets for such things. He (Mutt) wants to impress his Boss and show How much I work...wtf!
If you target some network keep it to yourself, Why to post about it publicly. And why dont you create algos which can handle paid links...
Google doesn't do shit. The person you outranked gives Google the backlinks and Google just investigates and nukes em! Your competition is doing all the dirty work for Google according to inside sources. Remember the URL to report suspicious backlink activities, well they get tons of reports, that's why Matt Cutts is laughing his head off!
Why spend money to investigate while you have thousands of webmasters as master spies. And as a side note, no publicly sold blog network is safe anyway. If you want peace of mind about your true money site, build your own blog network and keep it to yourself. Buying links from a publicly sold blog network involves risk, so just deal with it if you get caught.
100% agree they need to focus on improving their overall algo, but I do think they have the right to target networks as well. The fact that they target 1-2 man operations (some of which are only found here on BHW or other message boards) with their "expert" team, doesn't show good use of their resources. Also, at the rate we see new networks popping up, this doesn't even begin to stop the marketers that rely on churn and burn methods.
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