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Avoiding sandbox?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by pastonica, Nov 10, 2009.

  1. pastonica

    pastonica BANNED BANNED

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    I am little confused about sandbox. As everybody knows that you get sandboxed by google if you try to get too many backlinks in short time. My question is lets say I launch a website http://www.xyz.com and get lot of backlinks and then submit to google for indexng. Will it work. I do have doubt about it as google may index website through othere referers.
     
  2. ForeverNever

    ForeverNever Power Member

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    I have never been sandboxed but I have always followed the advice of the big guys...

    Create 3-4 backlinks every day or 2 days, maybe a couple more, and eventually start adding more.
     
  3. urpoe

    urpoe Newbie

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    FFS.. Is that true? 3-4 only? Yesterday i made about 3k.. Should i be worried about it?
     
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    probably. 3k is way overdoing it for 1 day imo
     
  5. Micallef

    Micallef Supreme Member

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    If you add backlinks slowly, it will take you about 4 months to rank.

    If you move quickly and hit the sandbox, you'll be out in 3 months. This is the option I choose.

    The sandbox is now just becoming general procedure for my sites. Keep adding links (good ones, from unique IPs, high PR, relevant if possible) at a high level, maybe 20-50 a day. Going nuts and adding 3000 a day will take you to the next level of google's spam, detection and probably introduce new problems for you. Keep it under 100 a day.
     
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  6. ForeverNever

    ForeverNever Power Member

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    I don't agree with you sorry.

    From what I've heard of the sandbox, it can last anywhere from 6-9 months.
    Also it can take 4 months to rank if you build slowly... if you're 2 years old. Seriously if you do it right you can have what you want in a month or less.
     
  7. pastonica

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    My question is what if we get links before submitting it to google. Isn't this way it would be much safer
     
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    Yes, there is a simple way to avoid the sandbox. Buy a domain that has not been punished and has been used for similar content before. How to do it?

    1. Look through sedo.com and similar services to find previously used domains. Be careful with parking services who spam their domains with various unrelated content etc.

    2. Check archive.org to make sure content is about the same as you plan to use. It should be related. You might also find out if the domain have been used for spamming by domain parking services. If you do find spam in history, pick another domain.

    3. Check in Google to make sure Google already indexed it and that it's not blocked. You might find out if it's been spammed here too.

    4. When adding content and backlinks, start slowly and increase volume slowly. If everything seems fine(Google index it properly etc.) after 2-3 months you could probably go full volume.

    That's it! Good Luck!

    If anyone have success with my advice, please let me know! [​IMG]
     
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  9. pastonica

    pastonica BANNED BANNED

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    Sounds god but buying used domains may get expensive.
     
  10. Micallef

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    No problem :)

    Any tips for me on ranking well in a month + not getting sandboxed?

    I've never been in the 'box for more than 3 months.
     
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    you can't avoid being sandboxed however you are able to "pull yourself out"
     
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    well this is the big problem for me and my sites for last two months. actually i am unaware of sandbox and only realized when one of my site actually got into trouble.

    when i g00gled i found an article about avoiding sandbox. well someone here can give any suggestion on the article found at following link. how far this method mentioned in article is acceptable. anyone experienced :confused:

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    http://themanicmarketer.com/google-sandbox-how-to-avoid-sandbox/
     
  13. vegasvillan

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    This whole sandbox thing is weird....I made a site about 4 weeks ago and didnt do anything with it. I would check my stats every other day. I built like 2 backlinks lol but my content was great and unique. My domain was the main keyword I was going after. I never got sandboxed and after the 2nd week of my doamin being up I was on page one....now I have the #2 spot.

    This site with very white hat. I used Silos, LSI, etc.......

    I think to much thought is put into backlinks and people forget theres so many other things you can do to make your site SEO friendly and rank high.....just my opinion though
     
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    Why I don't see any xrumer guys here answering this thread?
     
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    does anyone know the easiest method for becoming un-sandboxed?
     
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    Yea...... start over lol
     
  17. xboxlive

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    never been sandboxed but had a dance.

    site was #4 on first page for a month then went to #1000+ one day for exactly 1 week. went back to its original #4 for a few days and now is back down again nowhere to be seen.
     
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    I've had the exact same thing happen. It seemed when I created some backlinks, Google would go:

    "OOOH! A backlink! Hey everyone...look at this site! Oh wait...forget it."

    Google is starting to feel like an old girlfriend I had.
     
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  19. Micallef

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    Here are the stages of website ranking in Google as I have experienced them:

    1) New site boost (50% of cases)
    2) Rankings disappear after new site boost expires
    3) Thousands of backlinks built, results in good rank for a day/week
    4) Good rank lost due to loss of trust (sandbox, average 3 months)
    5) Thousands more backlinks built, overcoming former trust penalty. Site emerges from sandbox stronger than ever.

    Of course, all my sites have rubbish content and have no business ranking. If you're a white-hat who focuses on content, the rules may be different entirely.
     
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  20. pastonica

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    I think you are quite right but "coming back stronger" stage don't happen much often. Once sandboxed it can be life time imprisonment.