Automatic phone dialer (Amazing money idea)

LOL there have been laws against junk faxing long before there were laws against email spam.... I'm not 100% sure (researched this because I thought the exact same thing), but it was like $500 per junk fax sent you could be fined (or the people could sue you for). I used to get all kinds of junk faxes, travel agencies, restraunts, pump and dump stock picks, etc.

rakelspektakel said:

Do they send FAX?

It?s a little bit old school, but I see this all the time, small companies that buy up list and send a fax with some offer.

Grab a cpa offer, add your own cloaked link (maybe redirect)
Just do a nice little page in word and print that as pdf, upload it to a fax service? Wait and see?

I haven?t seen a law in/about fax spam

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Are their premium rate mobile numbers in the US? Like where a person calls back and there are charged on their mobile bill.

Wow, that sounds like a cool tool. I'll have to think of ways to monetize it.

hotstox said:

LOL there have been laws against junk faxing long before there were laws against email spam.... I'm not 100% sure (researched this because I thought the exact same thing), but it was like $500 per junk fax sent you could be fined (or the people could sue you for). I used to get all kinds of junk faxes, travel agencies, restraunts, pump and dump stock picks, etc.

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give me your fax number!

1-900-555-slut

jmhmedia said:

Are their premium rate mobile numbers in the US? Like where a person calls back and there are charged on their mobile bill.

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Think that scam was pulled before too, and is def illegal, some area code in the virgin islands or something that you could charge whatever you wanted per minute - and people were calling and spoofing the caller id with that number or something I dont know. Thing is anything where your billing peoples phone your going through a thirdparty company that deals with the carriers. The phone companies dont give a fuck about you, and will do a chargeback or "adjustment" - and charge you a fee similar to a chargeback with credit cards.

Hey Harro, I believe it would break part of the Telecommunications act, to do that in the UK, although I suppose you would have to be a mjor thorn in a lot of peoples sides before someone decieded to take action and began thinking about maybe tracking you to ask you if you would mind stopping.

You would need a pretty wide ranging product, unless you are thinking of some sort of boiler house type scam. Then you are looking at a nice prision sentance.

Barry Scott said:

HaRRo, as you're Uk based, like me, you could do something i've known people to do. Get yourself an 070 number (which is actually a premium rate number, although cunningly disguised as a mobile), then set the autodialer up to call every single mobile number in the uk, ring once, and hang up. A few people most definitely will call back, which you get paid for. Quids in.

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In the US they do something similar. People get 809 area code phone numbers (Dominican Republic) and when someone calls back they get charged a premium rate. I believe there are other islands that are known for doing this.

This idea is good in theory - but would be newbies please tread with super caution on this one. The telemarketing sector has been getting nailed for years, and the only method I could think of (comes from my original idea back in the day with these things) also happens to be one of the only ways you could really monetize this list.

DONT JUST START DIALING, AND DONT JUST START SENDING 100K JUNK FAXES. That is crossing a fine legal line.

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Phone gold miner Pro have you heard of that ?

The link is not good. Anyone have an alternative?

bruce6667 said:

please send one dollar to happy dude...

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lol i thought the exact same thing when i saw thread title homer simpson has tried and tested this people.

This was a great way to get leads....a long time ago.

I sold automated dialers in the past and made a great living doing it. When the DNC legislation was put into law I sold my company. It was a great way to market. I had a real estate script that I played to answering machines/voicemails that made the phones light up.

Here's what I did. I would play a message that went like this: Hi, uh...this is mike and I was wondering if you would consider selling your property to a prospect of mine?..... ah anyway if you would give me a call at 555-1212 and ask for mike.

The uh's ah's and pauses were intentional. If you make it sound like an ad people would just delete the message. I wanted to make it sound like I personally called them and was leaving a vm message.

If they had any property to sell they would call, (wouldn't you?) if not they would think I got the wrong number and do nothing. If they were just curious I got the call and got a chance to talk to them about their current housing status.

If someone answered the phone then it would play this message: ..Oh, i'm sorry. I must have dialed the wrong number...sorry bye.

When I first came up with this idea I tested it with a real estate broker. We were only dialing out on 4 lines and the receptionist couldn't keep up with all of the returned calls coming in. It was like she had been punk'd. lol

The real estate broker went from 6 listings to 61 listings in 2 months. He would have done even better but he was primarily a buyer's broker and never focused on listings.

Of course, I sold this concept along with the autodialers all over the US.

However, I caution you....DO NOT USE AUTODIALERS TO CALL PEOPLE. I don't care what people tell you. They are illegal in the US. It is illegal to call business owners too. Don't fall for anyone's BS.

This was a great post when this was originally posted, and you could get away with some of this stuff but you can't anymore so don't do it.

google for vicidialnow it has all functions and its free opensource

12inchpianist said:

This was a great way to get leads....a long time ago.

I sold automated dialers in the past and made a great living doing it. When the DNC legislation was put into law I sold my company. It was a great way to market. I had a real estate script that I played to answering machines/voicemails that made the phones light up.

Here's what I did. I would play a message that went like this: Hi, uh...this is mike and I was wondering if you would consider selling your property to a prospect of mine?..... ah anyway if you would give me a call at 555-1212 and ask for mike.

The uh's ah's and pauses were intentional. If you make it sound like an ad people would just delete the message. I wanted to make it sound like I personally called them and was leaving a vm message.

If they had any property to sell they would call, (wouldn't you?) if not they would think I got the wrong number and do nothing. If they were just curious I got the call and got a chance to talk to them about their current housing status.

If someone answered the phone then it would play this message: ..Oh, i'm sorry. I must have dialed the wrong number...sorry bye.

When I first came up with this idea I tested it with a real estate broker. We were only dialing out on 4 lines and the receptionist couldn't keep up with all of the returned calls coming in. It was like she had been punk'd. lol

The real estate broker went from 6 listings to 61 listings in 2 months. He would have done even better but he was primarily a buyer's broker and never focused on listings.

Of course, I sold this concept along with the autodialers all over the US.

However, I caution you....DO NOT USE AUTODIALERS TO CALL PEOPLE. I don't care what people tell you. They are illegal in the US. It is illegal to call business owners too. Don't fall for anyone's BS.

This was a great post when this was originally posted, and you could get away with some of this stuff but you can't anymore so don't do it.

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The DNC registry was not intended to protect business numbers, and in fact doesn't! Before you present yourself as an authority do a google search and read. http://business.ftc.gov/documents/alt129-qa-telemarketers-sellers-about-dnc-provisions-tsr
So you don't have to bother here what it says "Business-to-Business Calls:
Most phone calls to a business made with the intent to solicit sales from that business are exempt from the Do Not Call provisions."