Automatic approach to emailing? (idea)

So, I'm trying to do something specific. Something people have been doing manually for a long time, and I want to automate it.

The way it starts is you get niche emails and send your offers to them. These will be businesses, rather than people.

The way I understand it, it might be hard to scrape emails from google just like that and you might end up with a lot of emails you might not want to send to.

So my idea is this: What if you made a simple python bot which would return google results for your search, then instead of scraping all the emails, made an automatic email list in the format of [email protected], [email protected] etc. So it would automatically take the domain names from the results, and extract an assumed [email protected] email.

The point here being that many, if not most businesses do have an [email protected] email address which they check. You would sacrifice deliverability in turn of ease of use. What do you guys think? Would this work?

Also, I've heard that in the EU, it is illegal to send unsolicited personal emails but it is legal to send to businesses addresses such as info, support, etc. This would alleviate that issue as well.

Any thoughts or questions?

Sounds like a horrible idea. A lot of email programs/sites actually take out role based emails like info@, webmaster@, admin@. Not only that a majority of sites I've seen don't even have a info@ email address. So you'd be taking a hit sending to dead emails and likely to get flagged much faster. info@ doesn't necessarily mean it will go to a decision maker, many times it goes to the gatekeeper and now you have another hurdle to cross.

You're better off just doing a straight google scrape and going with the emails that show up because they were at least used at one point in time. Much higher chance of getting a real email instead of a bounced email.

some people keep info@ as spam traps, you need to make sure that before sending

MaestroDelWeb said:

Sounds like a horrible idea. A lot of email programs/sites actually take out role based emails like info@, webmaster@, admin@. Not only that a majority of sites I've seen don't even have a info@ email address. So you'd be taking a hit sending to dead emails and likely to get flagged much faster. info@ doesn't necessarily mean it will go to a decision maker, many times it goes to the gatekeeper and now you have another hurdle to cross.

You're better off just doing a straight google scrape and going with the emails that show up because they were at least used at one point in time. Much higher chance of getting a real email instead of a bounced email.

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The majority I've seen use info@. Huh.

Am I going to run into any issues scraping google results? One guy says I need to get the emails ''cleaned up'' via some service. Is that bullshit or is it right?
Also, will I need an SMTP to send or can I use something like sendgrid?

Bommie said:

The majority I've seen use info@. Huh.

Am I going to run into any issues scraping google results? One guy says I need to get the emails ''cleaned up'' via some service. Is that bullshit or is it right?
Also, will I need an SMTP to send or can I use something like sendgrid?

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That info@ might be what you're noticing but I scrape a decent amount almost every day and I always prefer non-role based emails. Cleaning the emails is always recommended, it minimizes your bounces and keeps your IP/service cleaner for longer. ScrapeBox with their separate paid email plugin has a decent email checker. https://email-verify.my-addr.com/ I've also used before.

ScrapeBox kills all @hotmail, @outlook, etc... emails. By the way.

SendGrid is an SMTP and you can use that or a different SMTP. It's up to you.

The issue with scraping google at least to scrape it quickly you need good proxies that work on google. If you get good proxies there are no issues.

Brilliant info. Thanks man.

MaestroDelWeb said:

SendGrid is an SMTP and you can use that or a different SMTP. It's up to you.

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I meant as in your own SMTP. Someone told me sendgrid would shut me down if I wasn't mailing opt-ins. I don't know if that's true.

MaestroDelWeb said:

Cleaning the emails is always recommended, it minimizes your bounces and keeps your IP/service cleaner for longer

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How many emails, on average, would you say can be sent until you are shut down?

Thanks.

there are services that do that. Extracting real e-mails from bulk lists with domains so...

Bommie said:

I meant as in your own SMTP. Someone told me sendgrid would shut me down if I wasn't mailing opt-ins. I don't know if that's true.

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Everyone is going to shut you down if you get enough complaints. It's usually better to send a shitload at once then a few at a time. Even bulletproof email servers can get shut down, the difference is they usually setup a new server for you.

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How many emails, on average, would you say can be sent until you are shut down?

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That's an impossible question to answer. It depends on your list and your message. Regardless you get shut down and you move on to the next provider.

MaestroDelWeb said:

Everyone is going to shut you down if you get enough complaints. It's usually better to send a shitload at once then a few at a time. Even bulletproof email servers can get shut down, the difference is they usually setup a new server for you.

That's an impossible question to answer. It depends on your list and your message. Regardless you get shut down and you move on to the next provider.

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Thank you, you've been helpful. I'm gonna shoot you a PM asking about a specific thing I want to do (you probably haven't heard of people doing it before). Just have a question or two, thanks.