Attacking competition, legal?

Don't do it !! i am suggesting build your backlinks and best article to outrank your competition.

brainstorm1 said:

I agree that using tools and methods to focus on your own site is much more productive, however I'm not really sure why these types of scenarios get such a negative backlash. Is it because the #1 spot could be yours (other forum members)?

Considering we are on a Blackhat forum, I would have imagined this stuff was all fair game...:dunce:

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It's because it moves us from immoral to illegalish... you really want to have nazioogle index a page with potential illegal activity. :dunce:

If you build it, they will come. Lol in all seriousness, just do your best to build a better brand/site/company. Before you get desperate with these types of techniques and do yourself more harm than good.

brainstorm1 said:

I agree that using tools and methods to focus on your own site is much more productive, however I'm not really sure why these types of scenarios get such a negative backlash. Is it because the #1 spot could be yours (other forum members)?

Considering we are on a Blackhat forum, I would have imagined this stuff was all fair game...:dunce:

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Exactly, we are on a Blackhat forum, meaning most people on this forum own websites and are in competition with each other.So why in the fuck do you think people get angry when someone starts a thread asking for a solution or advice on destroying their competition, when their competition could be you.:dunce:

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I'm not sure I understand comparing Black Hat methods to straight-out being dirty. This kind of thinking is exactly what gives all hackers, in the minds of the ignorant, a bad name. A few rotten apples can make the whole lot seem horrid.

If you cannot summon up the strength to do some actual work, then why bother being in the game at all? All this talk about the methods people on this site use, yes it may be short cuts, but it is STILL very hard work. So please do not try to compare the two, it's shameful at best.

Sorry , just had to say it. I'm one of the noobs here, and do not want all to think that every noob that comes here will seek this kind of thing.

OP, just stick to , well, not doing what you asked about, you'll thank yourself later.

advertise yours instead

Like others have said, if he's already #1, you probably won't hurt him.

It's hurting intellectual property rights !

People can sue you for silly reason and if they have a strong reason, you can face some tough times.

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ErgoProxE said:

:facepalm

I'm not sure I understand comparing Black Hat methods to straight-out being dirty. This kind of thinking is exactly what gives all hackers, in the minds of the ignorant, a bad name. A few rotten apples can make the whole lot seem horrid.

If you cannot summon up the strength to do some actual work, then why bother being in the game at all? All this talk about the methods people on this site use, yes it may be short cuts, but it is STILL very hard work. So please do not try to compare the two, it's shameful at best.

Sorry , just had to say it. I'm one of the noobs here, and do not want all to think that every noob that comes here will seek this kind of thing.

OP, just stick to , well, not doing what you asked about, you'll thank yourself later.

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If harming other sites with BH methods is illegal than I can understand the backlash (and I can also understand that many forum members are worried about this type of thing happening to their site).

All understandable. I just feel it is somewhat funny to talk about summoning the strength to do "actual work" when the definition of BH is basically doing less actual work. I mean, why wouldn't we just slave away at white hat methods then? Because BH methods are faster and easier, right?

Anyway, I wasn't trying to advocate that he sabotage other sites. I was just pointing out what I think is kind of a silly (but totally understandable) double standard.

Every industry has those unwritten rules you just don't do. I guess this is one of them and that's why I am here to learn.

brainstorm1 said:

If harming other sites with BH methods is illegal than I can understand the backlash (and I can also understand that many forum members are worried about this type of thing happening to their site).

All understandable. I just feel it is somewhat funny to talk about summoning the strength to do "actual work" when the definition of BH is basically doing less actual work. I mean, why wouldn't we just slave away at white hat methods then? Because BH methods are faster and easier, right?

Anyway, I wasn't trying to advocate that he sabotage other sites. I was just pointing out what I think is kind of a silly (but totally understandable) double standard.

Every industry has those unwritten rules you just don't do. I guess this is one of them and that's why I am here to learn.

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I gotcha. I was just suggesting that using BH methods may seem like "less work", when it's really not much less work. It is still very time consuming.

Consider for a moment "hacking"= Using a system in a way it was not intended, to get results, etc. Same principle here, I believe.

The difference here? With BH methods , that I know of, you are not "trashing" anothers hard work. You are simply making your work "less", which is really the wrong word, imo. Because, as previously mentioned, it is not any less difficult. It all STILL requires one to work like a dog, and do learn as much as humanly possible.

Key here , to stay "honest" while being not-so-honest, is to not cause a mess of anothers work, period. And yes, we are all here to learn. Even the so-called pros are here to learn.

So soak up as much as you can. And remember: Most of your work will be studying.

bad idea. you need to create a better product to defeat them.

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/blackhat-lounge/412397-sabotage-post-warning.html

plus its bad seo karma. what if you get to #1 after months of hard work and someone deindexed your site? i bet you wont feel very happy about it.